The Politics Thread 3.0

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:35 pm

Pretty obvious what conversations are happening in their house, then.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Garth » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:36 pm

Turns out there are at least three other cases of Conservatives caught using this phrase in the past few years:
http://www.dailyfail.co.uk/news/article ... eting.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-26368593
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/polit ... r-race-row

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Eighthours » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:40 pm

My 4 year old sings 'that' line in the Eenie Meenie Miney Moe song: 'Catch a fishy by its toe.' Who taught him that? Fish don't even have toes. Political correctness needs to get its facts straight, stat!

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:42 pm

Eighthours wrote:My 4 year old sings 'that' line in the Eenie Meenie Miney Moe song: 'Catch a fishy by its toe.' Who taught him that? Fish don't even have toes. Political correctness needs to get its facts straight, stat!


Saying "****** in the woodpile" is a bit more than "PC gone mad".

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Squinty » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:00 pm

Preezy wrote:Never heard that term before, what a silly old bint.


Same, can't say I have ever heard it.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Eighthours » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:03 pm

Moggy wrote:
Eighthours wrote:My 4 year old sings 'that' line in the Eenie Meenie Miney Moe song: 'Catch a fishy by its toe.' Who taught him that? Fish don't even have toes. Political correctness needs to get its facts straight, stat!


Saying "****** in the woodpile" is a bit more than "PC gone mad".


Stop undermining my joke, Mr Always Serious. :D

In other news, like someone who is denied bondage, Morris has had the whip withdrawn. Swift action from the Tories.

Btw, did you hear about Seamus Milne having it off with a young blonde woman, and Simon Danczuk trolling him massively about it?

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Tomous » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:09 pm

Moggy wrote:
She told the BBC: "The comment was totally unintentional. I apologise unreservedly for any offence caused."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40555639


That's not an apology.


"I'm sorry you were offended"

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Knoyleo » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:10 pm

Moggy wrote:At least only a month ago she didn't have to distance herself from racist remarks made by her partner.

http://m.devonlive.com/anne-marie-morri ... story.html

Oh no, wait, she did. :fp:

Devon.

Now it makes sense.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Winckle » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:43 pm

Eighthours wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Eighthours wrote:My 4 year old sings 'that' line in the Eenie Meenie Miney Moe song: 'Catch a fishy by its toe.' Who taught him that? Fish don't even have toes. Political correctness needs to get its facts straight, stat!


Saying "****** in the woodpile" is a bit more than "PC gone mad".


Stop undermining my joke, Mr Always Serious. :D

In other news, like someone who is denied bondage, Morris has had the whip withdrawn. Swift action from the Tories.

Btw, did you hear about Seamus Milne having it off with a young blonde woman, and Simon Danczuk trolling him massively about it?

Nah I did read about a Tory MP saying ****** in parliament though.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Memento Mori » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:52 pm

Brexiteer says something incredibly racist. In other news, the pope says something incredibly Catholic.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Preezy » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:58 pm

KK wrote:Pretty obvious what conversations are happening in their house, then.

Weird colonial-era ones?

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by captain red dog » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:17 pm

Wow just incredible to see that term used by an MP. When I started my current job 10 years ago, we actually had a manager who used that phrase in a meeting. It was incredibly awkward as my best mate is black and we all sat in stunned silence and looked at him to see his reaction. Fortunately for the manager, my mate is just about the most chilled and nicest guy you could meet and was almost pissing himself at our reaction.

He also got on well with the manager which is why he didn't take offence, but honestly if that happened with almost anyone else it would be instant dismissal.

For an MP to be using it, that's astonishing. What happened to that process they were on about bringing in where you can recall your MP? It should be an instant dismissal offence.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Eighthours » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:09 pm

captain red dog wrote:Wow just incredible to see that term used by an MP. When I started my current job 10 years ago, we actually had a manager who used that phrase in a meeting. It was incredibly awkward as my best mate is black and we all sat in stunned silence and looked at him to see his reaction. Fortunately for the manager, my mate is just about the most chilled and nicest guy you could meet and was almost pissing himself at our reaction.

He also got on well with the manager which is why he didn't take offence, but honestly if that happened with almost anyone else it would be instant dismissal.

For an MP to be using it, that's astonishing. What happened to that process they were on about bringing in where you can recall your MP? It should be an instant dismissal offence.


It is completely ridiculous. I thought we were in 2017.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Rex Kramer » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:26 pm

Eighthours wrote:
captain red dog wrote:Wow just incredible to see that term used by an MP. When I started my current job 10 years ago, we actually had a manager who used that phrase in a meeting. It was incredibly awkward as my best mate is black and we all sat in stunned silence and looked at him to see his reaction. Fortunately for the manager, my mate is just about the most chilled and nicest guy you could meet and was almost pissing himself at our reaction.

He also got on well with the manager which is why he didn't take offence, but honestly if that happened with almost anyone else it would be instant dismissal.

For an MP to be using it, that's astonishing. What happened to that process they were on about bringing in where you can recall your MP? It should be an instant dismissal offence.


It is completely ridiculous. I thought we were in 2017.

We are, not sure if Devon is yet.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Hyperion » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:41 pm

Knoyleo wrote:
Moggy wrote:At least only a month ago she didn't have to distance herself from racist remarks made by her partner.

http://m.devonlive.com/anne-marie-morri ... story.html

Oh no, wait, she did. :fp:

Devon.

Now it makes sense.


France as well


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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Knoyleo » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:49 pm

Is that one of those "soft drink geese" I've heard so much about?

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Hyperion » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:10 pm

Smoothie Swan

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Tineash » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:27 pm

Hyperion wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:
Moggy wrote:At least only a month ago she didn't have to distance herself from racist remarks made by her partner.

http://m.devonlive.com/anne-marie-morri ... story.html

Oh no, wait, she did. :fp:

Devon.

Now it makes sense.


France as well



Christ almighty, he's not even particularly liberal.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Lagamorph » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:29 pm

So much like Theresa May he was basically the least worst option available at the time rather than the best option?

Then again I suppose you can apply that to pretty much any election.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Preezy » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:33 am

Here's the full speech for some context:

I don't believe in this reasoning, forgive me for my directness. We among the West have been discussing such Marshall plans for Africa for many years and have in fact given many such plans already. So if it was so simple it would be fixed already. The Marshall plan was a reconstruction plan, a material plan in a region that already had its equilibriums, its borders and its stability. The problems Africa face are completely different and are much different and are "civilizational." What are the problems? Failed states, complex democratic transitions and extremely difficult demographic transitions. Multiple trafficking routes that pose severe issues - drugs, human trafficking, weapons. Violent fundamentalism and islamic terrorism. All of these create major issues in a region that at the same time has some examples of excellent growth that prove the continent is a land of opportunity. So if we want a serious answer to African issues and African problems, we must develop a series of politics that are much more sophisticated that a simple Marshall plan or money transfer, which we agree with the world bank on. The matters of vital infrastructure, education, health - there are roles for financing and it is our responsibility to help on these issues. In terms of security, we must help by linking with regional African stability instruments which France is currently engaging in with the sahel nations. Development, security - and there is also a shared responsibility. Such a Mashall plan as you desire is also a plan that will be administered by African governments and regional blocs. It's by a more rigorous governance, a fight against corruption, a fight for good governance, a successful demographic transition when countries today have 7 or 8 children per woman. As of today, spending billions of dollars outright would stabilize nothing. So the transformation plan that we have to conduct together must be developed according to African interests by and with African leaders. It must be a plan that must take into account the issues I've described, using public private partnerships, and must be conducted on a regional and sometimes even national basis.

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