The Politics Thread 3.0

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by Knoyleo » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:39 pm

captain red dog wrote:I obviously totally disagree with Myers comment, but would add that it should be considered equally offensive to say that Lineker and Evans are only on the high salary because they are white and male (which is the narrative the media have been pushing the last few weeks). If people insist on using identity politics to push an agenda, it has to be consistent.

lmao what is privilege

Seriously, if you can't acknowledge that media in general is still predominantly an old boy's club, you're a strawberry floating idiot.
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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Knoyleo » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:32 pm

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40768352

He's been fired by the Sunday Times, but that article should never have made it to print, really not good enough.
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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Lucien » Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:39 pm

captain red dog wrote:I obviously totally disagree with Myers comment, but would add that it should be considered equally offensive to say that Lineker and Evans are only on the high salary because they are white and male (which is the narrative the media have been pushing the last few weeks). If people insist on using identity politics to push an agenda, it has to be consistent.


Karl wrote:I'm not sure I understand your point CRD? We do exist in a society where white males on average make a little (sometimes a lot) more than their comparable peers.


Jewish people are paid even more on average. So I think his point is why is it ok to criticise based on one thing and not the other? I haven't seen the article btw, so I can't comment on it, other than to say if I was judging the snippet on the last page on its own, it would have been as bad to say "White people are not generally noted for their insistence on selling their talent for the lowest possible price".
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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:48 pm

Lucien wrote:Jewish people are paid even more on average.


Evidence?

So I think his point is why is it ok to criticise based on one thing and not the other? [/quote]

He hasn't been back since I asked, but where are the stories that Linekar and Evans only have personally high salaries because they are white/male?

The stories I saw pointed out that the highest paid BBC employees are white and male. That's different to CRD's claim that the media have pushed a narrative that Linekar/Evans are only paid highly because they're white males.
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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Lucien » Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:11 pm

Moggy wrote:
Lucien wrote:Jewish people are paid even more on average.


Evidence?


Ignore that actually. I was thinking of overall wages rather than their wages versus "comparable peers" in certain sectors.
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by KK » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:00 pm

The newspapers are now shedding readers like nobody's business...

The Sun, Mirror and Daily Star all lose sales by more than 10 per cent year on year in June

Redtop tabloids saw the biggest print newspaper sales declines in June with the Daily Star the biggest faller – down 18% year on year on weekdays and 26% on Sundays.

The Sun dropped 10.5% to 1.6m sales a day, the Daily Mirror fell 17% to 641,000 copies and the Sunday Mirror fell 20% to just 556,000.

The only newspaper to increase sales year on year was The Times, up 2% to 458,381 – putting it close behind the Daily Telegraph on 484,010. However, The Times sales includes 97,105 bulks (free copies given away at places like airports and hotels), up considerably from June 2016 at 72,622.

According to the latest data, the readership of The Sun, Express and Daily Mail skew towards the older demographic. 64% of Express readers are now over the age of 55, 1% more than the Mail on 63, and 55% of Sun readers are aged over 45.

This comes as Trinity Mirror's half-year revenue dropped by £55m, with print advertising falling by 27%. The group is now looking to find a further £5m in annual cost savings, with a target of £20m for “structural cost savings” for the year, up from its original target of £15m.

The Sun: 1,571,168
The Sun on Sunday: 1,344,894
Metro: 1,480,004
London Evening Standard: 907,269
City AM: 91,294
Daily Mail: 1,440,392
The Mail on Sunday: 1,236,839
The Times: 458,381
The Sunday Times: 792,081
The Daily Telegraph: 484,010
The Sunday Telegraph: 355,539
Daily Mirror: 640,747
Sunday Mirror: 555,80
Daily Star: 426,154
Daily Star Sunday: 250,248
Daily Express: 381,467
Sunday Express: 328,559
i: 270,990
Sunday People: 224,652
The Guardian: 159,007
The Observer: 192,889

26% of sales vanishing within 1 year, bloody hell.
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by Rex Kramer » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:04 pm

So essentially the newspaper biz is only a good, hard winter away from collapsing?
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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Errkal » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:05 pm

It is almost like poeple have had enough and seen the light around their peddling of bull gooseberry fool.
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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Garth » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:08 pm

Older people tend to buy newspapers, they're dying off and therefore so are the newspapers. Makes sense really.
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by Hexx » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:08 pm

Errkal wrote:It is almost like poeple have had enough and seen the light around their peddling of bull gooseberry fool.


I think you might be horribly optimistic.

Isn't the Daily Mail one of the most visited websites in the Uk (world?) or some nonsense.
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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:13 pm

Which segues nicely into this...

BBC still most trusted news source amongst the general public

To what extent do you trust [insert source] as a news source? ( 1 = do not trust at all, 10 = trust a great deal)

1. BBC: 7.4
2. ITV News: 6.6

3. Channel 4 News: 6.2
- Sky News: 6.2

5. The FT: 5.9
- Guardian: 5.9
- The Times: 5.9
- The Independent group: 5.9

9. Commercial radio: 5.8
10. The Telegraph: 5.7
11. FIVE: 5.5
12. i: 5
13. Metro: 4.9
14. Google News: 4.8
15. Daily Mail/Mail Online: 4.7
16. Daily Express: 4.5

17: MSN: 4.3
- Yahoo News: 4.3

19. Al Jazeera: 4.2

20. Huffington Post: 4.1
- Mirror group: 4.1

22. Sunday People: 3.8
23. The Sun: 3.7
24. Facebook: 3.4

25. The Daily Star: 3.3
- Twitter

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Garth » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:16 pm

That doesn't seem too bad actually!
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by Return_of_the_STAR » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:18 pm

KK wrote:Which segues nicely into this...

BBC still most trusted news source amongst the general public

To what extent do you trust [insert source] as a news source? ( 1 = do not trust at all, 10 = trust a great deal)

1. BBC: 7.4
2. ITV News: 6.6

3. Channel 4 News: 6.2
- Sky News: 6.2

5. The FT: 5.9
- Guardian: 5.9
- The Times: 5.9
- The Independent group: 5.9

9. Commercial radio: 5.8
10. The Telegraph: 5.7
11. FIVE: 5.5
12. i: 5
13. Metro: 4.9
14. Google News: 4.8
15. Daily Mail/Mail Online: 4.7
16. Daily Express: 4.5

17: MSN: 4.3
- Yahoo News: 4.3

19. Al Jazeera: 4.2

20. Huffington Post: 4.1
- Mirror group: 4.1

22. Sunday People: 3.8
23. The Sun: 3.7
24. Facebook: 3.4

25. The Daily Star: 3.3
- Twitter



I think i would trust the Sunday Sport (if it still existed) over the Mail.
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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:02 pm

Labour councillor suspended for calling Pride marchers paedophiles. :fp:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... aedophiles
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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Errkal » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:06 pm

Hexx wrote:
Errkal wrote:It is almost like poeple have had enough and seen the light around their peddling of bull gooseberry fool.


I think you might be horribly optimistic.

Isn't the Daily Mail one of the most visited websites in the Uk (world?) or some nonsense.


It is. The thing with that is there is a lot that hit it for the stories others comment gooseberry fool on any thread and I imagine a good chunk like moggy to mock the spanner comment writers.
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by Return_of_the_STAR » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:14 pm

Hexx wrote:
Errkal wrote:It is almost like poeple have had enough and seen the light around their peddling of bull gooseberry fool.


I think you might be horribly optimistic.

Isn't the Daily Mail one of the most visited websites in the Uk (world?) or some nonsense.


Yeah, the mailonline is brilliant website, the content of the stories though is the problem. It honestly believe that it did a massive job in leading to brexit and the tories getting such an easy ride since 2010. The public sector and Labour were demonised and successfully blamed for everything.
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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by lex-man » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:00 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
KK wrote:Which segues nicely into this...

BBC still most trusted news source amongst the general public

To what extent do you trust [insert source] as a news source? ( 1 = do not trust at all, 10 = trust a great deal)

1. BBC: 7.4
2. ITV News: 6.6

3. Channel 4 News: 6.2
- Sky News: 6.2

5. The FT: 5.9
- Guardian: 5.9
- The Times: 5.9
- The Independent group: 5.9

9. Commercial radio: 5.8
10. The Telegraph: 5.7
11. FIVE: 5.5
12. i: 5
13. Metro: 4.9
14. Google News: 4.8
15. Daily Mail/Mail Online: 4.7
16. Daily Express: 4.5

17: MSN: 4.3
- Yahoo News: 4.3

19. Al Jazeera: 4.2

20. Huffington Post: 4.1
- Mirror group: 4.1

22. Sunday People: 3.8
23. The Sun: 3.7
24. Facebook: 3.4

25. The Daily Star: 3.3
- Twitter



I think i would trust the Sunday Sport (if it still existed) over the Mail.


I don't get how Google News can be considered a news source as it's just an aggregation service and doesn't publish it's own content.
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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by lex-man » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:03 pm



I feel like JRM would probably be quite ashamed that somebody got a tattoo of him, as he's such a traditionalist.
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