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by DML » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:13 am

Grumpy David wrote:The Remain MPs getting a tough time in Barnsley Question Time tonight.


To me it just continued to highlight how dumb the vote was and how misinformed people are.

Barnsley has one of the lowest immigration rates in the country, yet it was keeping people out of jobs up there apparently. Its quite simply bollocks.

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by Moggy » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:26 am

DML wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:The Remain MPs getting a tough time in Barnsley Question Time tonight.


To me it just continued to highlight how dumb the vote was and how misinformed people are.

Barnsley has one of the lowest immigration rates in the country, yet it was keeping people out of jobs up there apparently. Its quite simply bollocks.


Yes but they once saw a black man on the High Street and there’s a bloke there with an accent. They are overrun!

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by Preezy » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:29 am

Muslamic ray guns are on the rise in Barnsley, we all know it.

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by Garth » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:08 pm

How about we keep the hard working immigrants here and send the old moaning ignorant gammon heads off to some remote island instead. They get to live among their own kind, and it would free up some jobs here once they're gone. Problem solved!

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:08 pm

Lets delve deeper into some STATS for Barnsley...

  • According to the UK Census for 2011, Barnsley has a high level of residents with either No Qualifications (32.3%) or qualifications equal to 1 or more GCSE at a Grade D level or below (14.3%)

  • In 2011 the rate of unemployment or a very low salary in Barnsley was high, with those claiming benefits more than 25% higher than the national average at 20%.

  • 96.8% of residents were born in the United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland, 11% higher than the average for England.

  • According to the UK Census for 2011, 97.9% of the population for Barnsley were from a white ethnic background, 0.7% of mixed origin, 0.7% Asian or Asian British, 0.5% were Black/African/Caribbean or Black British with 0.2% other.

  • The population of Barnsley is older than the national average, with 44.5% of residents being over the age of 45. Barnsley has fewer students than both the regional and national average.

  • Information from the Annual Survey of Hours and Earnings 2015 shows that the gross weekly pay of a full time worker from Barnsley is £469, lower than the regional average of £480.50, England at £532.60, and dramatically lower than London at £662.94.

  • According to 2013 figures, 23.8% of under 16s are living in a low income household.

  • Barnsley has an under-18 conception rate of 36.3 per 1,000 females aged 15-17, much higher than both the regional and national rates of 26.4 and 22.8 respectively.

  • According to the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) non-British nationals arriving in Barnsley in 2015 issued with a national insurance number (NINO) totalled 1,980. This was an increase of 209 individuals compared to the 2014 figure. There is a concentration of these new arrivals around the urban centre of Barnsley. Of these new arrivals 1,162 (58.7%) were from Romania, 536 from Poland (27.1%), and 14.2% from around the world.

  • Barnsley is the 39th most deprived area in the UK. It was 47th in 2010. Barnsley is relatively deprived in Education, Skills & Training, Employment, Health & Disability and Income but relatively less deprived for Living Environment and Barriers to Housing & Services.

- sources: UK Census for 2011, Annual Survey of Hours and Earnings, DWP, NINO, I Live Here, Barnsley Metropolitan Borough Council

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:13 pm

KK wrote:Lets delve deeper into some STATS for Barnsley...

  • According to the UK Census for 2011, Barnsley has a high level of residents with either No Qualifications (32.3%) or qualifications equal to 1 or more GCSE at a Drade D level or below (14.3%)

  • In 2011 the rate of unemployment or a very low salary in Barnsley was high, with those claiming benefits more than 25% higher than the national average at 20%.

  • 96.8% of residents were born in the United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland, 11% higher than the average for England.

  • According to the UK Census for 2011, 97.9% of the population for Barnsley were from a white ethnic background, 0.7% of mixed origin, 0.7% Asian or Asian British, 0.5% were Black/African/Caribbean or Black British with 0.2% other.

  • The population of Barnsley is older than the national average, with 44.5% of residents being over the age of 45. Barnsley has fewer students than both the regional and national average.

  • Information from the Annual Survey of Hours and Earnings 2015 shows that the gross weekly pay of a full time worker from Barnsley is £469, lower than the regional average of £480.50, England at £532.60, and dramatically lower than London at £662.94.

  • According to 2013 figures, 23.8% of under 16s are living in a low income household.

  • Barnsley has an under-18 conception rate of 36.3 per 1,000 females aged 15-17, much higher than both the regional and national rates of 26.4 and 22.8 respectively.

  • According to the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) non-British nationals arriving in Barnsley in 2015 issued with a national insurance number (NINO) totalled 1,980. This was an increase of 209 individuals compared to the 2014 figure. There is a concentration of these new arrivals around the urban centre of Barnsley. Of these new arrivals 1,162 (58.7%) were from Romania, 536 from Poland (27.1%), and 14.2% from around the world.

  • Barnsley is the 39th most deprived area in the UK. It was 47th in 2010. Barnsley is relatively deprived in Education, Skills & Training, Employment, Health & Disability and Income but relatively less deprived for Living Environment and Barriers to Housing & Services.


They are truly overrun! :lol:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Oblomov Boblomov » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:24 pm

32.3% of residents have no qualifications at all? What the strawberry float? :dread:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Preezy » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:26 pm

Any forumites live in the Barsnley wasteland?

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Rex Kramer » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:27 pm

Imagine living in Barnsley with an A-Level, you'd be an intellectual giant.

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by Moggy » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:32 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:Imagine living in Barnsley with an A-Level, you'd be an intellectual giant.


If you held the equivalent of an A-Level in Barnsley, you are probably one of the 3.2% of residents that are immigrants.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Snowcannon » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:33 pm

Rule: If it both starts with a B and its oop north, it sucks

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Benzin » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:08 pm

Snowcannon wrote:Rule: If it both starts with a B and its oop north, it sucks


Bradford, Blackpool, Burnley, Blackburn, Bolton......

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by Tafdolphin » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:17 pm

I'm from Blackpool and can at least confirm that aspect is true

Outside London, this resort on England’s north-west coast is one of the most densely populated places in the country. Rather than the classic downward spiral of a place in decline, Blackpool is stuck in its own strange dynamic. The more the economy rots, the more some people come.


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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:54 pm

The Las Vegas of the North. If you've never been to Vegas.

I sometimes wonder why some people don't move out of these failing towns and socially deprived areas. If there are those that can leave their shitheap in, I dunno, Bulgaria (no offence to any Bulgarians reading this in 2021) and make a go of it in the UK or wherever, I'm sure you can take a chance if you already live here - though I realise that's easier said than done if you're older, or have children etc.

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by Karl » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:40 pm

I think the crippling depression might be a factor too. It is pretty difficult to move to London on a whim if you can't get out of bed in the morning.

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by captain red dog » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:50 pm

So it appears Liverpool Prison has been run according to Victorian standards over the last few years. I'd like to see all the justice secretaries for the last 10 years called before a committee to explain how this has been allowed to happen.

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by Squinty » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:59 pm

captain red dog wrote:So it appears Liverpool Prison has been run according to Victorian standards over the last few years. I'd like to see all the justice secretaries for the last 10 years called before a committee to explain how this has been allowed to happen.


Austerity, austerity everywhere.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Rex Kramer » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:30 pm

The entire prison system has been a strawberry floating shambles since Grayling got his paws on it back in 2012. They made huge numbers of experienced staff redundant and haven't replaced them.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Tineash » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:47 pm

Austerity has consequences everywhere.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Errkal » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:32 pm

It is almost like cutting everything has an adverse effect on the service instead of making it magically just work.

There probably was waste in the beginning but they pushed so far past what was waste and is now cutting and damaging for the sake of it.

Utter utter gooseberry fool show of a government.


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