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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by Tineash » Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:04 pm

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Tineash wrote:Tax credits got slashed today, too. Did anyone even notice?


Who cares about a couple of million people losing money, we should be focused on some bloke not singing the national anthem.

It's cool our media focuses on the real issues.


I'm absolutely resigned to the status quo (or worse) for the entirety of the rest of my life, largely because of the media.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by TigaSefi » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:17 am

So whilst Corbyn engages the media full on by his behavior, the Tories can slip out bad news when they feel like it. Hah! Well done Corbyn!

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:28 am

TigaSefi wrote:So whilst Corbyn engages the media full on by his behavior, the Tories can slip out bad news when they feel like it. Hah! Well done Corbyn!


I realise you are not being 100% serious, but it's hardly Corbyn's fault that our media is so terrible that they would rather report that a man did not sing a song over cuts to tax credits.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by TigaSefi » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:31 am

You are right, I am being a little flippant but Corbyn is missing huge opportunities here to strike back and he isn't PR savvy enough to turn it back on the media yet. But then again if he does stick to his principles then this issue will be around a long time where what he DOES personally is overshadowing what he SAYS for the country every single time. Tis all early days and PMQ is about to start!

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by Irene Demova » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:34 am

The most amusing thing so far is the guardian and independent whining that he doesn't have a spin doctor who can just feed them statements to print

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:39 am

TigaSefi wrote:You are right, I am being a little flippant but Corbyn is missing huge opportunities here to strike back and he isn't PR savvy enough to turn it back on the media yet. But then again if he does stick to his principles then this issue will be around a long time where what he DOES personally is overshadowing what he SAYS for the country every single time. Tis all early days and PMQ is about to start!


This is the trouble with modern politics/media. We are always moaning that politics is ruled by spindoctors and that nobody has any actual opinions (just what they think people want to hear). And then when somebody comes along that is different we don't like it because they dress a little scruffy and don't sing "God Save the Queen".

I am not sure at all about Corbyn, I need to hear a lot more about what he proposes and what he plans to do before I decide, but I am already sick of the media banging on about unimportant crap like what colour poppy he might wear, will he sing the national anthem and how ironed his shirt looks. :roll:

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by captain red dog » Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:15 pm

Corbyn needs to just carry on as he is. The more the media go for him the more the disenfranchised will flock to his cause. Best thing they could do is cool off and give him rope in my opinion. Cameron played it will today by not being confrontational. It doesn't look good to attack someone for being a normal person.

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by Mini E » Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:16 am

Aaaaand my home MP on the Isle of Wight makes a complete idiot of the area by using his opportunity in this hugely important PMQs to ask about the difficulties people on the Island are having importing a tiger to the local zoo :fp: :fp: - The Island is now locally a laughing stock :lol: - what a strawberry floating moron Andrew Turner is.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by TigaSefi » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:34 am

:lol:

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by Grumpy David » Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:48 pm

Question Time is back.

"On the panel are Conservative environment secretary Elizabeth Truss MP, Labour's shadow chancellor John McDonnell MP, former leader of the SNP Alex Salmond MP, comedian and presenter Sandi Toksvig and Daily Telegraph columnist and leader writer Tim Stanley."

The shadow Chancellor so left wing that Ken Livingstone sacked him in the 80s for being too left wing is on.

Lots of political news to discuss. Corbyn and Syria discussion should be interesting.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by Superking » Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:53 pm

So strange that my local MP is suddenly so high profile :lol:

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by Alvin Flummux » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:00 pm

Grumpy David wrote:The shadow Chancellor so left wing that Ken Livingstone sacked him in the 80s for being too left wing


Grounds for an unfair dismissal tribunal, surely?

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by Rocsteady » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:05 pm

Nothing particularly interesting so far other than the guy in the audience who looked like he was going to burst into tears because he loves his country so much.

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by Albert » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:17 pm

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by Grumpy David » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:20 am

Corbyn scraping the bottom of the barrel. His education spokesman is Mike Watson, a convicted arsonist who's served time in prison.

He was and is a member of the house of Lords, a role he couldn't be stripped from despite his criminal record.

Not making this up. :lol:

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by Errkal » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:24 am

Grumpy David wrote:Corbyn scraping the bottom of the barrel. His education spokesman is Mike Watson, a convicted arsonist who's served time in prison.

He was and is a member of the house of Lords, a role he couldn't be stripped from despite his criminal record.

Not making this up. :lol:


Which means he has paid his debt for the crime by being in prison.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by Meep » Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:52 am

The funniest thing about Corbyn is that his lack of media polish is actually forcing political journalists to do actually do their job for the first time in twenty years, rather than being served soundbites and statements on plates and told to regurgitate it onto print or screen. Most of them seem to have completely forgotten how and there have been genuinely angry outbursts to this effect. :lol: Going out and getting information is an alien concept to most of them.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by Prototype » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:04 pm

On the subject of Education spokespeople, remember when UKIP photoshopped a bunch of books behind Paul Nuttall? :lol:

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by Grumpy David » Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:13 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11876480/One-in-five-Labour-voters-more-likely-to-defect-to-Tories-after-Corbyn-victory-poll-finds.html

One in five Labour voters more likely to defect to Tories after Corbyn victory - poll finds


Jeremy Corbyn has lost the support of 37 per cent of Labour party voters, new poll reveals after his shaky first week as leader


A fifth of Labour voters say they are more likely to vote Conservative after the election of Jeremy Corbyn as party leader.

A poll published a week after the veteran MP won an overwhelming victory in the Labour leadership race has found him losing support among the wider electorate.

Almost three in four people do not believe Mr Corbyn looks like a prime-minister in waiting and around 37 per cent of Labour voters say they are less likely to back the party at the next election, according to the poll.

The findings will provide further ammunition to Mr Corbyn’s critics within the party after what they say has been a poor start to his leadership.

It follows the rows over his failure to sing the national anthem at a Battle of Britain memorial service and his shadow chancellor forced to apologise for his previous support for the IRA.

According to the poll Mr Corbyn has yet to win over two of the groups whose support he would have hoped to attract more readily.

The poll, conducted for the Independent by ORB on Wednesday and Thursday, found that a majority – 67 per cent – of voters in the bottom DE social group do not see him as prime ministerial. Nor do 68 per cent of public sector workers.

But Mr Corbyn’s election appears to have made more of an impression in Scotland, Wales, the North-east and London – areas seen as crucial to any hope of a revival in Labour’s electoral fortunes.

Some 36 per cent of people who voted for the Scottish National Party in May say they are now more likely to vote Labour with Mr Corbyn as leader – suggesting that his anti-austerity agenda could yet win over voters who deserted Labour at the last election.

Overall, 59 per cent of the public say Labour looks less electable than it did last May, while 41 per cent regard it as more electable.


But this finding contains a silver lining for Mr Corbyn, coming as an improvement since July, when – in the middle of the Labour leadership contest – 76 per cent said the party was less electable than in May and 24 per cent judged it more electable.


Hardly surprising.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread 3.0
by Lagamorph » Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:34 pm

Why is 59% being considered an 'overwhelming victory' anyway? It's barely more than half.

I also keep hearing a lot about his 'anti-austerity' agenda, but have heard absolutely nothing of how he plans on funding that agenda. Is it basically "scrap Trident and use the money from that"? Even if he was able to go through with that, it'd take years for any actual money to come from scrapping it surely. It's not like he can just say "Trident replacement is now scrapped" and the next day he'll suddenly have billions to spend.

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