The Politics Thread 3.0

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by Cuttooth » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:34 pm

Rocsteady wrote:Which means they'll take at least 13% of Bundestag seats and could even form the main opposition. The worldwide political situation doesn't imorove.

Looks like they won't be able to call themselves the main opposition because the SDP have just ruled out continuing the grand coalition with CDU/CSU.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:53 pm

"We are going to going to take this country back" chants crowd at AfD party as exit polls show they got 13.5% of vote

That phrasing sure has become a common theme this past year or so.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:10 pm

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Rocsteady wrote:Which means they'll take at least 13% of Bundestag seats and could even form the main opposition. The worldwide political situation doesn't imorove.

Looks like they won't be able to call themselves the main opposition because the SDP have just ruled out continuing the grand coalition with CDU/CSU.


Makes me wonder if that was a tactical move to avoid a far right party being able to claim to be the main opposition. Without the coalition Merkel no longer has a majority government but that is probably a price worth paying to prevent AfD getting more limelight.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Hyperion » Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:32 pm

There's a big protest in Berlin against them at the moment

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Tineash » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:09 pm



Oh this is fine, this is fine, this is totally fine

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by <]:^D » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:46 pm

:dread:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Hime » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:41 am

Karl probably agrees.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Karl » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:02 am

I like to think of myself as this forum's Goebbels.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Denster » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:44 am

Clearly I'm Goering.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Squinty » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:32 am

Denster wrote:Clearly I'm Goering.


Goering where?

That's what we need in Europe, more crazy far right people.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Denster » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:43 am

Labour not debating the Brexit vote at their conference.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:45 am

Denster wrote:Labour not debating the Brexit vote on their conference.


It’ll be interesting just how long it takes young Remain supporting Corbynites to realise that Corbyn’s aims are not the same as theirs. You’d have thought they would have noticed by now, but the penny still doesn’t seem to have dropped. :lol:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Denster » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:48 am

It's incredible. How is it not THE issue at the moment.

I'm not often take aback but my word.


It's like Fawlty Towers - don't mention the war!

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Karl » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:48 am

Those students who turn out for him are caught between a rock and a hard place to be fair. But yeah, it's amusing that 99% of the hardcore young Corbyn movement will be strongly pro-EU and he won't even talk about it.

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by Rex Kramer » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:48 am

I really don't understand why the Lib Dems aren't making more of an impact. There is an obvious group of people not being represented in politics at this point but they just don't seem to be taking advantage. I wonder if going with Cable was a mistake.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:54 am

Karl wrote:Those students who turn out for him are caught between a rock and a hard place to be fair. But yeah, it's amusing that 99% of the hardcore young Corbyn movement will be strongly pro-EU and he won't even talk about it.


In the election that was true, it was a choice between Brexit May and Brexit Corbyn. Not a hard choice for left leaning people.

Now Corbyn is a massive issue to any lefty Remainer, the Remain support he has should be turning against him while they still have the best part of 5 years to get a decent pro-EU leader in.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Denster » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:54 am

Squinty wrote:
Denster wrote:Clearly I'm Goering.


Goering where?

That's what we need in Europe, more crazy far right people.

Sorry. I was going with the KP Goebbels thing. He's the propaganda minister controlling info.

I'm the large, venal rabble rouser shouting and stirring things up.

Or Chris Moyles as the more inelegant amongst us might opine?

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Karl » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:55 am

I think of Moggy as being Eva Braun.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:56 am

Rex Kramer wrote:I really don't understand why the Lib Dems aren't making more of an impact. There is an obvious group of people not being represented in politics at this point but they just don't seem to be taking advantage. I wonder if going with Cable was a mistake.


Nobody trusts them and nobody thinks they are serious contenders.

Cable is a mistake, he’s way too associated with the coalition that screwed over students.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Rex Kramer » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:57 am

Moggy wrote:
Karl wrote:Those students who turn out for him are caught between a rock and a hard place to be fair. But yeah, it's amusing that 99% of the hardcore young Corbyn movement will be strongly pro-EU and he won't even talk about it.


In the election that was true, it was a choice between Brexit May and Brexit Corbyn. Not a hard choice for left leaning people.

Now Corbyn is a massive issue to any lefty Remainer, the Remain support he has should be turning against him while they still have the best part of 5 years to get a decent pro-EU leader in.

Keir Starmer seems to be doing good things but the party seems completely in thrall to Momentum so nobody to the right of Corbyn stands a chance.

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