Re: The Politics Thread 3.0
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:11 pm
Big ol' tory, Dylan Jones.
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Guardian wrote:Jacob Rees-Mogg met Steve Bannon to discuss US-UK politics
Exclusive Tory grassroots favourite met ex-Trump adviser this week to discuss how conservative movements can win in Britain
Jacob Rees-Mogg had a private meeting with former Donald Trump adviser Steve Bannon in London on Thursday to talk about how conservative movements can win in the US and UK, the Guardian has learned.
Rees-Mogg, a favourite among Conservative members to be the next party leader, spent more than an hour at the meeting in a Mayfair hotel with Bannon, who was at one point seen as Trump’s most influential adviser.
The American also met Nigel Farage, the former Ukip leader, and another Conservative MP during a short trip to the UK.
The meetings took place on the day of the diplomatic spat between Trump and Theresa May, after the US president retweeted anti-Muslim material from the far-right fringe group Britain First.
Rees-Mogg confirmed the encounter, saying Bannon was “an interesting man to have met” and they talked about US and UK politics. Farage also confirmed he had met Bannon, who is a friend.
Bannon, who describes himself as a populist and economic nationalist, was forced out of the White House in August. He then rejoined the rightwing news website Breitbart as executive chairman, but he remains in close contact with Trump.
The meetings were brokered by Raheem Kassam, the Breitbart London editor and former chief of staff to Farage. Kassam defended Trump over the retweets on Thursday and criticised Downing Street for “flushing the UK’s relationship with the US down the toilet to virtue-signal over a couple of tweets”.
Asked about the meetings, Kassam said: “Brexit and the election of President Trump were inextricably linked, so the discussions focused on how we move forward with winning for the conservative movements on both sides of the pond, how you build movements, on the ground and digitally, and what Steve’s brand of economic nationalism – which puts the interests of ordinary people first – can do in the US and United Kingdom.”
Rees-Mogg’s “Moggmentum” followers have attracted comparisons with the US Tea Party as they champion rightwing ideas, grassroots activism and shaking up the conservative establishment.
The Tory MP has previously expressed support for Trump but backtracked on that before the presidential election. In mid-September last year, he said that he would “almost certainly vote for Trump if I was American”.
However, a month later, Rees-Mogg said he felt he could not vote for either candidate. “I obviously do not have a vote and believe it is important for the UK to be polite about all US presidential candidates as it is the most important foreign relationship for us,” he said at the time. “However, I could not personally vote for either candidate so would have to abstain.”
Since the election, Rees-Mogg has developed a substantial following among Tory activists looking for their own populist leader to take on Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn.
He received a hero’s welcome among the grassroots at the Conservative party conference, but he has repeatedly dodged questions about running for Tory leader in the future.
He has also attracted opposition from protesters over his rightwing views on issues such as abortion and foreign aid.
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Meep wrote:I suppose it is possible someone used the computer using another account. No one has made it clear to me whether these files were exclusively associated with Green's user name.
As for giving other people access to the same account, I have seen that happening where I work, but only in cases where new employees had not had accounts set up for them yet and had to 'borrow' the logins of other staff (really bad practice, but not something I had a say over). Also, there's nothing stopping shared access to a specific mail account separately if you needed that.
captain red dog wrote:We are looking at a cyber security level from 9 years ago implemented by elderly IT illiterate MPs. It's a little unlikely, but not inconceivable that it wasn't him. Given the images were apparently legal, I think that particular incident needs no further action as I don't see how you could prove he did view those images, and did so whilst "on the clock".
Its a classic case of the media losing focus and going after an irrelevant issue when far more serious allegations are labelled against him. Who gives a strawberry float whether he looks at porn when there are more serious harassment allegations going around?
captain red dog wrote:We are looking at a cyber security level from 9 years ago implemented by elderly IT illiterate MPs. It's a little unlikely, but not inconceivable that it wasn't him. Given the images were apparently legal, I think that particular incident needs no further action as I don't see how you could prove he did view those images, and did so whilst "on the clock".
Its a classic case of the media losing focus and going after an irrelevant issue when far more serious allegations are labelled against him. Who gives a strawberry float whether he looks at porn when there are more serious harassment allegations going around?
captain red dog wrote:We are looking at a cyber security level from 9 years ago implemented by elderly IT illiterate MPs. It's a little unlikely, but not inconceivable that it wasn't him. Given the images were apparently legal, I think that particular incident needs no further action as I don't see how you could prove he did view those images, and did so whilst "on the clock".
Its a classic case of the media losing focus and going after an irrelevant issue when far more serious allegations are labelled against him. Who gives a strawberry float whether he looks at porn when there are more serious harassment allegations going around?
"The computer was in Mr Green's office, on his desk, logged in, his account, his name," said Mr Lewis, who at the time was working as a computer forensics examiner for SO15, the counter-terrorism command.
"In between browsing pornography, he was sending emails from his account, his personal account, reading documents... it was ridiculous to suggest anybody else could have done it."
Similar material had also been accessed on Mr Green's laptop, he claimed.
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