The Politics Thread 3.0

[satriales]

I thought my GF would be Tory as she's evil and has no heart, but actually she voted Labour. So not all bad!

[Rocsteady]

I was chatting with a tory councillor last week, seemed a good guy. Can't say I've got many tory mates but it wouldn't put me off them. Much.

[Squinty]

So, uh, how's that DUP deal coming along? It's been a week since the last update

I'm guessing they are starting to realise how NI politicians work. Let's take strawberry floating ages to do anything.

[OrangeRKN]

In my experience there are two types of tory - those who genuinely want the best for people and the country but believe in a differing ideology to my own as the best way of achieving that, and those who want to pay less tax.

That makes all political conversations either reasonable and interesting or trivial and short.

[Lex-Man]

I know a lot of very religious tories. They seem not to be believe in evidence and just talk about the way God wants things to be.

[captain red dog]

So I'm guessing the only confirmation of a deal will be whether the Queens speech is voted through. It would be funny if it failed, and then instead of having no queens speech next year we end up with 2 this year!

[Moggy]

So I'm guessing the only confirmation of a deal will be when the Queens speech ends with the Queen chanting "no surrender to the IRA"

FTFY.

[Saint of Killers]

There's more in the link below.

Scottish government publishes Arlene Foster's letter on gay marriage

THE Scottish government has published a letter it received from Arlene Foster about its laws surrounding gay marriage.

The correspondence, signed by the DUP leader, was sent in early September 2015 when she was finance minister in the Stormont executive.

It follows calls to publish the letter when its existence emerged after the Westminster election results sparked fresh criticism of the DUP's opposition to gay marriage.

Former Scottish minister Marco Biagi had claimed Mrs Foster wrote to him asking to curtail same-sex marriage access for Northern Ireland couples.

Mr Biagi said on Twitter: "I said no. Specifically this was couples with prior Northern Irish civil partnerships, who couldn't switch for marriages in NI (or England and Wales)."

He added: "England and Wales still only convert their own civil partnerships. Scotland converts anyone's."

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northerni ... e-1061889/

[Memento Mori]

Gerard Coyne has been fired from Unite for running against Len McCluskey "misusing data".

A senior Unite official who lost a close battle with Len McCluskey to lead Britain’s biggest union has been sacked.

Gerard Coyne, who was the union’s West Midlands regional organiser, was told that he must leave after 28 years for the misuse of data.

He lost out in the April election by fewer than 6,000 votes after challenging McCluskey’s leadership.

The union election was described as a battle for the heart and soul of the Labour party, which Unite bankrolls with £1.5m a year.

McCluskey, one of Jeremy Corbyn’s key allies and leader of the organisation that is Labour’s most generous donor, has called for the deselection of MPs who fail to back Labour’s leader. Coyne was backed by many MPs unhappy with Corbyn’s leadership.

The investigation into Coyne was led by Andrew Murray, Unite’s chief of staff who was seconded to the Corbyn campaign during the general election, it is understood.

Coyne was found guilty of using Labour party data and a call centre used by the party’s West Midlands mayoral candidate, Siôn Simon, to contact potential supporters.

Private Eye has had some interesting articles about the irregularities in this election.

[Meep]

To be fair, he should have been fired simply because it was clear he was being used by the PLP to interfere with the union leadership. Support is one thing but allowing him to use party assets to attempt a takeover of Unite is hard to defend. Labour and the Unions have an important partnership but the unions are ultimately there to serve their members, not the interests of party politics. I'm saying this as someone who does not even support Corbyn.

[Hexx]

So Queens speech tomorrow?

Yey or Ney given DUP comment?

[Cuttooth]

So Queens speech tomorrow?

Yey or Ney given DUP comment?

It'll pass.

[Moggy]

So Queens speech tomorrow?

Yey or Ney given DUP comment?

It'll pass.

I'd imagine the DUP will pass it as they'll want to get something out of the current situation.

It'll be hilarious if it does fail to pass though.

[Cuttooth]

I honestly think I might laugh for the rest of the day if it didn't pass.

[satriales]

I expect it will pass but I really hope it doesn't.

[Lagamorph]

DUP talks not going as expected

[KK]

"Not going as expected" could be the slogan for the past 12 months.

[Lex-Man]

"Not going as expected" could be the slogan for the past 12 months.

Maybe we should use it as a slogan to re brand the whole UK.

[Errkal]

What a monumental gooseberry fool show.
She has basically assumed she can say yeah they will vote with us and it be like the lib Dems, my guess is they are going "you need us, give us everything we want or piss off"

[Moggy]

What a monumental gooseberry fool show.
She has basically assumed she can say yeah they will vote with us and it be like the lib Dems, my guess is they are going "you need us, give us everything we want or piss off"

I'm thinking "well the DUP will want to get something out of all this so they won't risk destabilising the government".

And then I remember how the Northern Ireland assembly has been completely destabilised and has now shut down.