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by captain red dog » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:19 am

Squinty wrote:Tony Robinson :lol:

I have a vague interest in the guy. I watched that show where he went to meet Muslims, and I genuinely thought he would learn something from the experience. Dude seems to have learned nothing. He tries to come across as reasonable but the mask slips a lot of time, revealing him to be antagonistic, out of his depth and exploitative.

I watch a lot of his videos and have found him to be quite knowledgeable on Islam and the history of terrorism in the UK particularly in terms of knowing the history of radical preachers that have been active around the UK.

I agree that he has been unnessarily antagonistic over the mosque attack last week for example. That was an occasion where he really could have built bridges.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:24 am

captain red dog wrote:
Squinty wrote:Tony Robinson :lol:

I have a vague interest in the guy. I watched that show where he went to meet Muslims, and I genuinely thought he would learn something from the experience. Dude seems to have learned nothing. He tries to come across as reasonable but the mask slips a lot of time, revealing him to be antagonistic, out of his depth and exploitative.

I watch a lot of his videos and have found him to be quite knowledgeable on Islam and the history of terrorism in the UK particularly in terms of knowing the history of radical preachers that have been active around the UK.

I agree that he has been unnessarily antagonistic over the mosque attack last week for example. That was an occasion where he really could have built bridges.


Tony Robinson? ;)

Tommy Robinson (and his ilk) research Islam in order to find things to use against the group as a whole. Find a nasty passage in the Quran, use it to demonise a billion people. Lovely.

He's a wife beating, racist, fraudulent thug. He's not somebody that can build bridges because he's one of the ones knocking them down.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Preezy » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:24 am

BBC News saying the DUP deal has been signed :dread:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Cuttooth » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:26 am

£1 billion deal, what the actual strawberry float? :lol:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Hexx » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:26 am

Preezy wrote:BBC News saying the DUP deal has been signed :dread:


£1bn value apparently.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by jiggles » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:28 am

Can't wait to see how much of that is invested west of the Bann.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Errkal » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:31 am

Hexx wrote:
Preezy wrote:BBC News saying the DUP deal has been signed :dread:


£1bn value apparently.


I wonder what services will get strawberry floated over to find that.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by captain red dog » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:38 am

Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Squinty wrote:Tony Robinson :lol:

I have a vague interest in the guy. I watched that show where he went to meet Muslims, and I genuinely thought he would learn something from the experience. Dude seems to have learned nothing. He tries to come across as reasonable but the mask slips a lot of time, revealing him to be antagonistic, out of his depth and exploitative.

I watch a lot of his videos and have found him to be quite knowledgeable on Islam and the history of terrorism in the UK particularly in terms of knowing the history of radical preachers that have been active around the UK.

I agree that he has been unnessarily antagonistic over the mosque attack last week for example. That was an occasion where he really could have built bridges.


Tony Robinson? ;)

Tommy Robinson (and his ilk) research Islam in order to find things to use against the group as a whole. Find a nasty passage in the Quran, use it to demonise a billion people. Lovely.

He's a wife beating, racist, fraudulent thug. He's not somebody that can build bridges because he's one of the ones knocking them down.

Not sure on the racist bit as I have really struggled to find anything racist he has said, aside from that clip Piers Morgan had last week. I have really looked for it given the number of times he has been called a racist, so if you have anything I'm genuinely interested to see it. Generally what he says about hate preachers in mosques has been reasonably accurate but I don't think he has any kind of solutions.

He mentioned internment for people on the terror watch list, but I'm opposed to that on two fronts, firstly it's against the principles of our legal system and secondly it would, in my opinion, escalate the number of youths that are radicalised.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Hexx » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:39 am

Errkal wrote:
Hexx wrote:
Preezy wrote:BBC News saying the DUP deal has been signed :dread:


£1bn value apparently.


I wonder what services will get strawberry floated over to find that.


This voters' fault though (mainly Lab) for not giving May a majority!

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Rex Kramer » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:39 am

It's not the cash that bothers me on this deal, I'm sure chunks of that were probably already earmarked for development in NI anyway. It's those bunch of chucklefucks having the ear of the PM.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Knoyleo » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:43 am

Moggy wrote:He's a wife beating, racist, fraudulent thug. He's not somebody that can build bridges because he's one of the ones knocking them down.

twitter.com/AngrySalmond/status/878933114529226752


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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Dual » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:46 am

FAKE NEWS. That's taken out of context. Just lads being a bit boisterous.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by jiggles » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:47 am

Rex Kramer wrote:It's not the cash that bothers me on this deal, I'm sure chunks of that were probably already earmarked for development in NI anyway.


Arlene Foster has a stellar record with setting up government funding schemes, so I'm sure all this money will be distributed in a way that is well thought-out and sustainable.

And, y'know, not stupidly misappropriated to the point that it becomes the largest scandal in NI politics, resulting in the fall of our government, and yet somehow forgotten about within 8 months.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Hexx » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:48 am

Foster saying its 1.5bn.

May :fp:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Cuttooth » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:52 am

Hexx wrote:Foster saying its 1.5bn.

May :fp:

I think it might be £1 billion extra.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Benzin » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:52 am

How much would that mean has been spent for the election and the fallout?

Magic money trees indeed :lol:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:53 am

captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Squinty wrote:Tony Robinson :lol:

I have a vague interest in the guy. I watched that show where he went to meet Muslims, and I genuinely thought he would learn something from the experience. Dude seems to have learned nothing. He tries to come across as reasonable but the mask slips a lot of time, revealing him to be antagonistic, out of his depth and exploitative.

I watch a lot of his videos and have found him to be quite knowledgeable on Islam and the history of terrorism in the UK particularly in terms of knowing the history of radical preachers that have been active around the UK.

I agree that he has been unnessarily antagonistic over the mosque attack last week for example. That was an occasion where he really could have built bridges.


Tony Robinson? ;)

Tommy Robinson (and his ilk) research Islam in order to find things to use against the group as a whole. Find a nasty passage in the Quran, use it to demonise a billion people. Lovely.

He's a wife beating, racist, fraudulent thug. He's not somebody that can build bridges because he's one of the ones knocking them down.

Not sure on the racist bit as I have really struggled to find anything racist he has said, aside from that clip Piers Morgan had last week. I have really looked for it given the number of times he has been called a racist, so if you have anything I'm genuinely interested to see it. Generally what he says about hate preachers in mosques has been reasonably accurate but I don't think he has any kind of solutions.

He mentioned internment for people on the terror watch list, but I'm opposed to that on two fronts, firstly it's against the principles of our legal system and secondly it would, in my opinion, escalate the number of youths that are radicalised.


I can't be arsed to go through his entire history and dig up every quote/tweet he's ever said/sent.

Let's look at the basics:

Former member of the BNP.

Former member of the British Freedom Party.

Founder of the EDL.

Non stop verbal (and now physical) attacks on Muslims.

"But but but Muslim is not a race". Sure, but I think we know what he means.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by captain red dog » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:01 pm

Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Squinty wrote:Tony Robinson :lol:

I have a vague interest in the guy. I watched that show where he went to meet Muslims, and I genuinely thought he would learn something from the experience. Dude seems to have learned nothing. He tries to come across as reasonable but the mask slips a lot of time, revealing him to be antagonistic, out of his depth and exploitative.

I watch a lot of his videos and have found him to be quite knowledgeable on Islam and the history of terrorism in the UK particularly in terms of knowing the history of radical preachers that have been active around the UK.

I agree that he has been unnessarily antagonistic over the mosque attack last week for example. That was an occasion where he really could have built bridges.


Tony Robinson? ;)

Tommy Robinson (and his ilk) research Islam in order to find things to use against the group as a whole. Find a nasty passage in the Quran, use it to demonise a billion people. Lovely.

He's a wife beating, racist, fraudulent thug. He's not somebody that can build bridges because he's one of the ones knocking them down.

Not sure on the racist bit as I have really struggled to find anything racist he has said, aside from that clip Piers Morgan had last week. I have really looked for it given the number of times he has been called a racist, so if you have anything I'm genuinely interested to see it. Generally what he says about hate preachers in mosques has been reasonably accurate but I don't think he has any kind of solutions.

He mentioned internment for people on the terror watch list, but I'm opposed to that on two fronts, firstly it's against the principles of our legal system and secondly it would, in my opinion, escalate the number of youths that are radicalised.


I can't be arsed to go through his entire history and dig up every quote/tweet he's ever said/sent.

Let's look at the basics:

Former member of the BNP.

Former member of the British Freedom Party.

Founder of the EDL.

Non stop verbal (and now physical) attacks on Muslims.

"But but but Muslim is not a race". Sure, but I think we know what he means.

Well that's the thing, I have seen a lot of people call him a racist but haven't to date seen anything he has said that seems racist, and I have scoured a lot of his tweets and various speeches but have come up empty handed.

As far as I recall, I think he said he left the BNP as he found they were racist, and set up the EDL to do things differently. Then I'm sure he said he left the EDL when they were joined by BNP types but who knows.

A lot of his past is a bit sketchy, and I'm not entirely sympathetic that he gets called racist as I have seen him do the same thing when he has called Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser and I have tweeted him to say as much.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Tineash » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:36 pm

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"Oh this £1,000,000,000 extra? We found it on a magic money bush. Totally different thing"

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by satriales » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:45 pm

These sort of deals shouldn't be allowed. Giving away £1B in taxpayer money just to stay in power!

What happens if next election is neck and neck and suddenly there's a bidding war to get the smaller parties on-side.

The Tories don't care about this country at all, they just want power at any cost.


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