The Politics Thread 3.0

[KK]

They'd turn on the leader, front bench, EU...and everyone else, but The Telegraph, Express and Daily Mail will never not back the Tories. Express may switch to UKIP.

The Sun would switch depending on which way the wind was blowing, though not for Corbyn.

[Moggy]

Next off-topic post gets a thread-ban. Post something about politics, for goodness' sake.

Theresa May is staying on as PM. She wants to fight the next election.
What rae her chances of making it to 2022 as PM.

I'd say zero. She must know that the only reason she is still there is because the Tories wanted a period of stability to start Brexit negotiations and more importantly to avoid any early calls for another general election

She'll be gone as soon as we are out of the EU. Nobody really wants to be in charge while that shitstorm is going on. Assuming we leave in 2019, there'll be a new leader in 2020, giving them a couple of years to bed in and distance themselves from May.

[Denster]

Next off-topic post gets a thread-ban. Post something about politics, for goodness' sake.

Theresa May is staying on as PM. She wants to fight the next election.
What rae her chances of making it to 2022 as PM.

I'd say zero. She must know that the only reason she is still there is because the Tories wanted a period of stability to start Brexit negotiations and more importantly to avoid any early calls for another general election

She'll be gone as soon as we are out of the EU. Nobody really wants to be in charge while that shitstorm is going on. Assuming we leave in 2019, there'll be a new leader in 2020, giving them a couple of years to bed in and distance themselves from May.

Pretty much spot on.

[Rex Kramer]

3 years to find someone vaguely relatable to a human being then, tough ask looking at the current cabinet.

[Moggy]

3 years to find someone vaguely relatable to a human being then, tough ask looking at the current cabinet.

Boris and Gove blew their chances.

Rees-Mogg is popular amongst younger right wingers but doesn't have mainstream appeal. We'll be does but only the mainstream from 1783.

I'm struggling to think of who else they have though. Maybe they'll go for a relatively unknown MP, clean slate and all that.

[Lagamorph]

Philip Hammond has been reasonably uncontroversial for a Chancellor and actually has a clue on the economy. Of the current front benchers he seems a reasonable choice.

[Rex Kramer]

Howard, Lawson et al would veto that choice.

[Squinty]

3 years to find someone vaguely relatable to a human being then, tough ask looking at the current cabinet.

strawberry floating impossible.

[Irene Demova]

3 years to find someone vaguely relatable to a human being then, tough ask looking at the current cabinet.

Realistically it's three years to try and make Labour eat itself again, outside of the unionists in scotland the tories are gonna hold most of the same votes they already had and make few gains

[Lex-Man]

I actually heard today from somebody close to government that there has been several failed attempts to raise a leadership challenge against May already. Apparently they're is currently a lot of animosity in the Tory party because of the Brexit fallout that nobody can get enough support together mount a challenge.

It's apparently especially hard for anyone who backed Brexit as most of the party hates their guts.

[Meep]

Next off-topic post gets a thread-ban. Post something about politics, for goodness' sake.

Theresa May is staying on as PM. She wants to fight the next election.
What rae her chances of making it to 2022 as PM.

I'd say zero. She must know that the only reason she is still there is because the Tories wanted a period of stability to start Brexit negotiations and more importantly to avoid any early calls for another general election

She'll be gone as soon as we are out of the EU. Nobody really wants to be in charge while that shitstorm is going on. Assuming we leave in 2019, there'll be a new leader in 2020, giving them a couple of years to bed in and distance themselves from May.

Pretty much spot on.

They will be waiting for a long time. The real shitstorm only happens after leaving the EU. That's when the disruption becomes real. The only effect Brexit has had so far is based purely on speculation; nothing has legally changed. Anyone thinking things will be easier for government after 2019 will be in for a shock. After leaving we will lose preferential access not only with the European market, but with all the other countries the EU has negotiated deals with, so the effect on trade will be profound. Also, aside from the economic shock, Parliament is going to be busy hastily building new bureaucracies in order to manage borders and migration, as well as things like environmental regulation and setting various standard as well as contending with all sorts of unforeseen legal issues that might crawl out of the woodwork.

May probably things she has it tough now but she is going to laughing at Corbyn or whatever Conservative leader succeeds her when she leaves number 10.

[Lex-Man]

Next off-topic post gets a thread-ban. Post something about politics, for goodness' sake.

Theresa May is staying on as PM. She wants to fight the next election.
What rae her chances of making it to 2022 as PM.

I'd say zero. She must know that the only reason she is still there is because the Tories wanted a period of stability to start Brexit negotiations and more importantly to avoid any early calls for another general election

She'll be gone as soon as we are out of the EU. Nobody really wants to be in charge while that shitstorm is going on. Assuming we leave in 2019, there'll be a new leader in 2020, giving them a couple of years to bed in and distance themselves from May.

Pretty much spot on.

They will be waiting for a long time. The real shitstorm only happens after leaving the EU. That's when the disruption becomes real. The only effect Brexit has had so far is based purely on speculation; nothing has legally changed. Anyone thinking things will be easier for government after 2019 will be in for a shock. After leaving we will lose preferential access not only with the European market, but with all the other countries the EU has negotiated deals with, so the effect on trade will be profound. Also, aside from the economic shock, Parliament is going to be busy hastily building new bureaucracies in order to manage borders and migration, as well as things like environmental regulation and setting various standard as well as contending with all sorts of unforeseen legal issues that might crawl out of the woodwork.

May probably things she has it tough now but she is going to laughing at Corbyn or whatever Conservative leader succeeds her when she leaves number 10.

I don't know once the worst is has happened, it should be fairly easy to win an election on rejoining the EU. Although I imagine it'll be pretty rough for whoever is in government post Brexit, which may well be May.

[Lagamorph]

Next off-topic post gets a thread-ban. Post something about politics, for goodness' sake.

Theresa May is staying on as PM. She wants to fight the next election.
What rae her chances of making it to 2022 as PM.

I'd say zero. She must know that the only reason she is still there is because the Tories wanted a period of stability to start Brexit negotiations and more importantly to avoid any early calls for another general election

She'll be gone as soon as we are out of the EU. Nobody really wants to be in charge while that shitstorm is going on. Assuming we leave in 2019, there'll be a new leader in 2020, giving them a couple of years to bed in and distance themselves from May.

Pretty much spot on.

They will be waiting for a long time. The real shitstorm only happens after leaving the EU. That's when the disruption becomes real. The only effect Brexit has had so far is based purely on speculation; nothing has legally changed. Anyone thinking things will be easier for government after 2019 will be in for a shock. After leaving we will lose preferential access not only with the European market, but with all the other countries the EU has negotiated deals with, so the effect on trade will be profound. Also, aside from the economic shock, Parliament is going to be busy hastily building new bureaucracies in order to manage borders and migration, as well as things like environmental regulation and setting various standard as well as contending with all sorts of unforeseen legal issues that might crawl out of the woodwork.

May probably things she has it tough now but she is going to laughing at Corbyn or whatever Conservative leader succeeds her when she leaves number 10.

I don't know once the worst is has happened, it should be fairly easy to win an election on rejoining the EU. Although I imagine it'll be pretty rough for whoever is in government post Brexit, which may well be May.

It'll also be rough for any government attempting to re-join the EU. The Mail and Express will go for them big time, and the EU will have any government over a barrel so any indication that we're not getting the same terms as we had before the papers will lambaste as weakness on the part of that government and bullying by the EU.

[Lex-Man]

Next off-topic post gets a thread-ban. Post something about politics, for goodness' sake.

Theresa May is staying on as PM. She wants to fight the next election.
What rae her chances of making it to 2022 as PM.

I'd say zero. She must know that the only reason she is still there is because the Tories wanted a period of stability to start Brexit negotiations and more importantly to avoid any early calls for another general election

She'll be gone as soon as we are out of the EU. Nobody really wants to be in charge while that shitstorm is going on. Assuming we leave in 2019, there'll be a new leader in 2020, giving them a couple of years to bed in and distance themselves from May.

Pretty much spot on.

They will be waiting for a long time. The real shitstorm only happens after leaving the EU. That's when the disruption becomes real. The only effect Brexit has had so far is based purely on speculation; nothing has legally changed. Anyone thinking things will be easier for government after 2019 will be in for a shock. After leaving we will lose preferential access not only with the European market, but with all the other countries the EU has negotiated deals with, so the effect on trade will be profound. Also, aside from the economic shock, Parliament is going to be busy hastily building new bureaucracies in order to manage borders and migration, as well as things like environmental regulation and setting various standard as well as contending with all sorts of unforeseen legal issues that might crawl out of the woodwork.

May probably things she has it tough now but she is going to laughing at Corbyn or whatever Conservative leader succeeds her when she leaves number 10.

I don't know once the worst is has happened, it should be fairly easy to win an election on rejoining the EU. Although I imagine it'll be pretty rough for whoever is in government post Brexit, which may well be May.

It'll also be rough for any government attempting to re-join the EU. The Mail and Express will go for them big time, and the EU will have any government over a barrel so any indication that we're not getting the same terms as we had before the papers will lambaste as weakness on the part of that government and bullying by the EU.

It depends how bad Brexit is, if it does too much damage they'll be a massive backlash against it and the Mail and the Express will go all quiet on the issue.

[Lagamorph]

Next off-topic post gets a thread-ban. Post something about politics, for goodness' sake.

Theresa May is staying on as PM. She wants to fight the next election.
What rae her chances of making it to 2022 as PM.

I'd say zero. She must know that the only reason she is still there is because the Tories wanted a period of stability to start Brexit negotiations and more importantly to avoid any early calls for another general election

She'll be gone as soon as we are out of the EU. Nobody really wants to be in charge while that shitstorm is going on. Assuming we leave in 2019, there'll be a new leader in 2020, giving them a couple of years to bed in and distance themselves from May.

Pretty much spot on.

They will be waiting for a long time. The real shitstorm only happens after leaving the EU. That's when the disruption becomes real. The only effect Brexit has had so far is based purely on speculation; nothing has legally changed. Anyone thinking things will be easier for government after 2019 will be in for a shock. After leaving we will lose preferential access not only with the European market, but with all the other countries the EU has negotiated deals with, so the effect on trade will be profound. Also, aside from the economic shock, Parliament is going to be busy hastily building new bureaucracies in order to manage borders and migration, as well as things like environmental regulation and setting various standard as well as contending with all sorts of unforeseen legal issues that might crawl out of the woodwork.

May probably things she has it tough now but she is going to laughing at Corbyn or whatever Conservative leader succeeds her when she leaves number 10.

I don't know once the worst is has happened, it should be fairly easy to win an election on rejoining the EU. Although I imagine it'll be pretty rough for whoever is in government post Brexit, which may well be May.

It'll also be rough for any government attempting to re-join the EU. The Mail and Express will go for them big time, and the EU will have any government over a barrel so any indication that we're not getting the same terms as we had before the papers will lambaste as weakness on the part of that government and bullying by the EU.

It depends how bad Brexit is, if it does too much damage they'll be a massive backlash against it and the Mail and the Express will go all quiet on the issue.

I'd expect them to just double down on blaming the EU and Remoaners for it all going wrong, and how if everyone had unified behind it then it would've been an amazing success.

[Lex-Man]

Next off-topic post gets a thread-ban. Post something about politics, for goodness' sake.

Theresa May is staying on as PM. She wants to fight the next election.
What rae her chances of making it to 2022 as PM.

I'd say zero. She must know that the only reason she is still there is because the Tories wanted a period of stability to start Brexit negotiations and more importantly to avoid any early calls for another general election

She'll be gone as soon as we are out of the EU. Nobody really wants to be in charge while that shitstorm is going on. Assuming we leave in 2019, there'll be a new leader in 2020, giving them a couple of years to bed in and distance themselves from May.

Pretty much spot on.

They will be waiting for a long time. The real shitstorm only happens after leaving the EU. That's when the disruption becomes real. The only effect Brexit has had so far is based purely on speculation; nothing has legally changed. Anyone thinking things will be easier for government after 2019 will be in for a shock. After leaving we will lose preferential access not only with the European market, but with all the other countries the EU has negotiated deals with, so the effect on trade will be profound. Also, aside from the economic shock, Parliament is going to be busy hastily building new bureaucracies in order to manage borders and migration, as well as things like environmental regulation and setting various standard as well as contending with all sorts of unforeseen legal issues that might crawl out of the woodwork.

May probably things she has it tough now but she is going to laughing at Corbyn or whatever Conservative leader succeeds her when she leaves number 10.

I don't know once the worst is has happened, it should be fairly easy to win an election on rejoining the EU. Although I imagine it'll be pretty rough for whoever is in government post Brexit, which may well be May.

It'll also be rough for any government attempting to re-join the EU. The Mail and Express will go for them big time, and the EU will have any government over a barrel so any indication that we're not getting the same terms as we had before the papers will lambaste as weakness on the part of that government and bullying by the EU.

It depends how bad Brexit is, if it does too much damage they'll be a massive backlash against it and the Mail and the Express will go all quiet on the issue.

I'd expect them to just double down on blaming the EU and Remoaners for it all going wrong, and how if everyone had unified behind it then it would've been an amazing success.

I'm sure they'll try that and it might work, but if we do see a heavy backlash from the public they'll have no choice but to back down. I think that the tides already turning on Brexit, I've seen way more people on the BBC forums attacking Briext.

[captain red dog]

People have been attacking leave voters for the best part of the last year on social media/BBC HYS etc. I don't think opinion has really changed at all aside from a hardening of opinion on both sides.

[Moggy]

twitter.com/christopherhope/status/904770957847474177

Corbyn is a monster.

[Knoyleo]

People have been attacking leave voters for the best part of the last year on social media/BBC HYS etc.

[KK]

twitter.com/christopherhope/status/904770957847474177

Corbyn is a monster.

There will be a long padded out article on this, I'm sure.