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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Preezy » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:07 am

Forget all that, his surname is Rees-Mogg.

Rees-Mogg :lol:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:11 am

Hyperion wrote:He was refusing to say he was against gay marriage and that gay sex was a sin, and was weaseling out saying he followed the teachings of the Catholic church


Farron has religious views but generally voted in favour of gay rights.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11923 ... policy=826

Rees-Mogg always voted against.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24926 ... policy=826

Farron was troubling as a Liberal leader as he wasn't a champion of equality and I understand that Rees-Mogg as a Tory is not as hypocritical.

But, Rees-Mogg is tipped as the next Tory leader and therefore (probably) the next PM. His views are far more troubling as he is likely to actually have the power to affect the lives of women and gay people. Farron never would have had that power and again he generally voted in favour of civil liberties.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Squinty » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:15 am

Hyperion wrote:He was refusing to say he was against gay marriage and that gay sex was a sin, and was weaseling out saying he followed the teachings of the Catholic church


He should go back to the 1700's where he belongs.

I seriously hope the LBGT community respond.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Preezy » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:16 am

slow edit: Just googled him, he looks like a bellend too.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Grumpy David » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:57 am

Moggy wrote:
Hyperion wrote:He was refusing to say he was against gay marriage and that gay sex was a sin, and was weaseling out saying he followed the teachings of the Catholic church


Farron has religious views but generally voted in favour of gay rights.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11923 ... policy=826

Rees-Mogg always voted against.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24926 ... policy=826

Farron was troubling as a Liberal leader as he wasn't a champion of equality and I understand that Rees-Mogg as a Tory is not as hypocritical.

But, Rees-Mogg is tipped as the next Tory leader and therefore (probably) the next PM. His views are far more troubling as he is likely to actually have the power to affect the lives of women and gay people. Farron never would have had that power and again he generally voted in favour of civil liberties.



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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Lex-Man » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:02 am

Grumpy David wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Hyperion wrote:He was refusing to say he was against gay marriage and that gay sex was a sin, and was weaseling out saying he followed the teachings of the Catholic church


Farron has religious views but generally voted in favour of gay rights.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11923 ... policy=826

Rees-Mogg always voted against.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24926 ... policy=826

Farron was troubling as a Liberal leader as he wasn't a champion of equality and I understand that Rees-Mogg as a Tory is not as hypocritical.

But, Rees-Mogg is tipped as the next Tory leader and therefore (probably) the next PM. His views are far more troubling as he is likely to actually have the power to affect the lives of women and gay people. Farron never would have had that power and again he generally voted in favour of civil liberties.




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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:02 am

Life is sacrosanct, even in the case of an incestuous rape!

Votes for air strikes.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by captain red dog » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:14 am

Moggy wrote:Life is sacrosanct, even in the case of an incestuous rape!

Votes for air strikes.

I'm dismayed, I really am. We often ridicule the ridiculous opinions of US Republicans, but here we have a pretty large UK political figure with absolutely ridiculous and disgusting views.

His comments on Christianity too. :fp:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:21 am

captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:Life is sacrosanct, even in the case of an incestuous rape!

Votes for air strikes.

I'm dismayed, I really am. We often ridicule the ridiculous opinions of US Republicans, but here we have a pretty large UK political figure with absolutely ridiculous and disgusting views.

His comments on Christianity too. :fp:


Don't worry, it's not like Rees-Mogg is favourite to be the next Tory leader/PM.

:dread:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:23 am

Preezy wrote:He was one of these wannabe gangster types who fancied himself as a music producer...whilst also working in a call centre :simper:

Sums up Instagram in a nutshell.

At least Rees-Mogg is open about his views and answers the bloody question, which a lot of politicians do not. There's no accusing the man of ambiguity. But clearly with these views he's showing himself up to be unfit for PM. Corbyn vs. Rees-Mogg would be quite the showdown. I personally would see it as cataclysmic for Britain, but...

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Errkal » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:24 am

Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:Life is sacrosanct, even in the case of an incestuous rape!

Votes for air strikes.

I'm dismayed, I really am. We often ridicule the ridiculous opinions of US Republicans, but here we have a pretty large UK political figure with absolutely ridiculous and disgusting views.

His comments on Christianity too. :fp:


Don't worry, it's not like Rees-Mogg is favourite to be the next Tory leader/PM.

:dread:


It's cool, he will do a great job really alienating and killing support from the masses.

They may be able to look away from May and Boris's cuntishness as it is slightly hidden by PR, but Mogg is blatant with it and I think even your everyday garden idiot isn't going to "be cool" with his views.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:26 am

Errkal wrote:
Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:Life is sacrosanct, even in the case of an incestuous rape!

Votes for air strikes.

I'm dismayed, I really am. We often ridicule the ridiculous opinions of US Republicans, but here we have a pretty large UK political figure with absolutely ridiculous and disgusting views.

His comments on Christianity too. :fp:


Don't worry, it's not like Rees-Mogg is favourite to be the next Tory leader/PM.

:dread:


It's cool, he will do a great job really alienating and killing support from the masses.

They may be able to look away from May and Boris's cuntishness as it is slightly hidden by PR, but Mogg is blatant with it and I think even your everyday garden idiot isn't going to "be cool" with his views.


Didn't we all think that about Brexit and Trump?

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Grumpy David » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:27 am

lex-man wrote:I thought you were a libertarian Dave?


Generally am libertarian on most issues, particularly social issues like drugs, euthanasia, abortion. However my opinions aren't set in stone. E.g libertarian foreign policy. I don't tend to be absolutist either e.g. I wouldn't want a fully private medical system.

I rarely find myself in 100% agreement with Politicians since libertarian views tend to mean agreeing with Tory economic policies and Liberal Democrats / Labour views on social issues. No one party fully supports my views.

Unlike the crazy way Ed Milliband redesigned Labour Party Leader electoral system, the Tory system makes it very difficult for a fringe candidate to enter the final 2. So JRM is incredibly unlikely to end up as PM, but could certainly get a Ministerial role.

JRM VS JC does appeal to my "Chaotic Neutral" desires. :slol:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Errkal » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:29 am

Moggy wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:Life is sacrosanct, even in the case of an incestuous rape!

Votes for air strikes.

I'm dismayed, I really am. We often ridicule the ridiculous opinions of US Republicans, but here we have a pretty large UK political figure with absolutely ridiculous and disgusting views.

His comments on Christianity too. :fp:


Don't worry, it's not like Rees-Mogg is favourite to be the next Tory leader/PM.

:dread:


It's cool, he will do a great job really alienating and killing support from the masses.

They may be able to look away from May and Boris's cuntishness as it is slightly hidden by PR, but Mogg is blatant with it and I think even your everyday garden idiot isn't going to "be cool" with his views.


Didn't we all think that about Brexit and Trump?


Yeah but they both did use a lot of PR etc. to spread mis-information which the everyday garden idiot will have taken as gospel, Mogg however is straight out being a dick and not sugar coating or covering up anything, so even the most dimwitted of idiot should be able to realise he is a banana split.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Lex-Man » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:41 am

Grumpy David wrote:
lex-man wrote:I thought you were a libertarian Dave?


Generally am libertarian on most issues, particularly social issues like drugs, euthanasia, abortion. However my opinions aren't set in stone. E.g libertarian foreign policy. I don't tend to be absolutist either e.g. I wouldn't want a fully private medical system.

I rarely find myself in 100% agreement with Politicians since libertarian views tend to mean agreeing with Tory economic policies and Liberal Democrats / Labour views on social issues. No one party fully supports my views.

Unlike the crazy way Ed Milliband redesigned Labour Party Leader electoral system, the Tory system makes it very difficult for a fringe candidate to enter the final 2. So JRM is incredibly unlikely to end up as PM, but could certainly get a Ministerial role.

JRM VS JC does appeal to my "Chaotic Neutral" desires. :slol:


If that actually happens I think I may try to immigrate.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Drumstick » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:05 pm

I'm pretty sure that if one of his daughters got gang-raped he'd change his opinion pretty strawberry floating quickly.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Squinty » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:28 pm

Drumstick wrote:I'm pretty sure that if one of his daughters got gang-raped he'd change his opinion pretty strawberry floating quickly.


He definitely is detached from reality.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:36 pm

Imagine dating a woman and then finding out Jacob Rees-Mogg would be your father-in-law.

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by Tineash » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:13 pm

Grumpy David wrote:Unlike the crazy way Ed Milliband redesigned Labour Party Leader electoral system, the Tory system makes it very difficult for a fringe candidate to enter the final 2. So JRM is incredibly unlikely to end up as PM, but could certainly get a Ministerial role.


JRM 'just' has to be the least-hated person in each round of MPs voting. There's easily enough personal & political enmity between the half-dozen major leadership candidates to make that possible. Certainly, I'd give him a good chance to make it to the last 3; don't underestimate how many Con MPs yearn for that hard Thatcherite patrician purity that Rees-Mogg represents. In this enervated atmosphere, could they not prefer JRM's apparent (reactionary) energy to the grey & steady hand of Hammond, or the pathetic deflated balloon that is Bojo?
I'd say it's improbable, not impossible.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Tineash » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:19 pm

As an aside, watching Johnson's stature shrink like a detumescing stiffy immediately upon contact with the icy cold water of real responsibility has been a pure joy in these dark days.

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