lex-man wrote:Lagamorph wrote:Corbyn is a die hard Brexiteer, far moreso than May & co. The only reason Labour are currently in favour of the single market is because they're not in power. If they were Corbyn would never allow it and he'd likely dismiss anyone on the cabinet who so much as mentioned it.
Corbyn may be 'idealistic' but he'd very happily destroy the foundations of the UK economy to achieve his own ideals, and as we've seen he's more than willing to put his personal ideals ahead of those of the party and the country as a whole.
The single market thing is only a transitional move that Corbyn has agreed to for party unity reasons. Labour's plan is still hard Brexit just a bit slower.
Rocsteady wrote:IIRC weren't Labour planning a similarly hard Brexit but also planning to raise corporation tax? I'm really not certain that would be a great move in this climate despite on principle supporting such progressive taxation.
This is just it, whilst May is being more overt in her disdain for and dismantling of various safety nets in the UK, Corbyn wants to (whether he realises it or not) undermine the systems that actually fund those safety nets. Ultimately they're both going to accomplish the same disastrous result, they just want to go about it in different ways.
Karl wrote:So in the worst case scenario - based on your assumptions, not current Labour policy - he would have the same 'hard Brexit' policy as May, right? But probably without the hatred of civil liberties and human rights, or wanting to dismantle the NHS, or being so thoroughly anti-immigrant.
So... they aren't just as bad as each other, then?
As for civil liberties, let's not forget that Corbyn did not oppose the Investigatory Powers Bill/Snoopers charter, he chose to abstain on it instead and had the rest of the Labour party do the same, ensuring that it went through with a mere 15 votes against. So you certainly can't call Corbyn a champion, or really even a supporter, of civil liberties.