The Politics Thread 3.0

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by more heat than light » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:28 am

Moggy wrote:Well that's exactly the point. There aren't enough of them, why and how do we fix it?


I'd be interested to know the percentage of ethnic minorities actually going down the coaching route. As you said earlier, there are plenty of black players in the Premier League, it would be odd if there weren't a similar number trying to get their coaching badges. If that's the case then there's definitely a problem, if not you have to wonder why that is.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:35 am

Moggy wrote:Today’s Mail front page.



Those poor middle aged men.

I guess that’s them “pushing” the boundaries eh?




Absolute massacre! :lol:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:47 am

myrrh heat than light wrote:
Moggy wrote:Well that's exactly the point. There aren't enough of them, why and how do we fix it?


I'd be interested to know the percentage of ethnic minorities actually going down the coaching route. As you said earlier, there are plenty of black players in the Premier League, it would be odd if there weren't a similar number trying to get their coaching badges. If that's the case then there's definitely a problem, if not you have to wonder why that is.


I have been trying to find the numbers that try and get their coaching badges, but have been unable to find any exact figures.

This was interesting though:

The report also examines why low numbers of BME coaches are completing their core qualifications.

Michael Johnson, a 41-year-old former Birmingham City player, thinks many BME professionals are put off trying to gain coaching qualifications by the belief they will not get job opportunities once they gain them.

Johnson, who retired in 2009, has a full set of coaching badges, including the highest award of the Uefa Pro Licence, a prerequisite for anyone wanting to manage in the Premier League.

He has received just three invites to attend an interview in the past three years for coaching and manager jobs.

"I don't want anyone to do me a favour," he says.

"I've gone out and done it the hard way. I've paid my way through the qualifications. All I want is that opportunity, just like any other man from any other walk of life.

"All we want is to get in the room. Nobody is saying you're going to get the job. All we're saying is have a look at these guys and see if they might change your perception of what you might think they are."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29976832


Fake edit:

I found some stats from 2014.

Percentage of BAME coaches amongst those 'self-declaring' their ethnicity on the respective FA courses from May 2014
Level One: 6%
Level Two: 9%
Uefa B Licence: 5.6%*
Uefa A Licence: 12.9%*
Uefa Pro-Licence: 6.5%*
Level One (female): 7%
Level Two (female): 5%
* Figures for three seasons, covering August 2011 - May 2014

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/31970841

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by more heat than light » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:59 am

That interview makes grim reading. If he had that few invites to interview then there's quite clearly an issue there. I'm still not totally convinced that the Rooney rule is the right answer, but if the end result is more diversity in management then that's a good outcome obviously. We'll have to wait and see.

Just realised we've been talking about football in the Politics thread for like two pages now. :lol:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:05 am

myrrh heat than light wrote:Just realised we've been talking about football in the Politics thread for like two pages now. :lol:


Stealth football thread? We can get away with it as long as we start by bringing up Daily Mail bigotry. ;)

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Dual » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:03 pm

Why have we got two politics threads?

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by <]:^D » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:04 pm

umm shouldnt this be in 4.0?

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:07 pm

Dual wrote:Why have we got two politics threads?

I don't know how this has happened. Chaos. Absolute chaos.

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