Do you Like the Great Outdoors?

I totally disagree. I'd bother to write up why but I have work to do.

Fatal Exception wrote:I totally disagree. I'd bother to write up why but I have work to do.

I have no idea how you'd even start defending it to be honest.

Starbreaker wrote:Don't you FP me, you scamp.

Hunting is just one of those things that I hate with a passion. What with living in the middle of fecking nowhere, we used to get hunts up here all the time - 8am on a Sunday morning, hunting horns blaring and dogs barking with a load of pissed up snobs with guns trailing around.

My three nearest neighbours are farmers, and they're all against sport hunting. The only people that have time for it are the "farmers" who have strawberry floating mansions and employ hands to do all the actual work while they attend uppity pseudo-racist parties with similar twats. Shooting vermin I have no qualm with at all; for livestock-protecting purposes it's part of the job. But people that actively chase an animal around for miles on horseback for no reason other than personal pleasure need a good kicking.

Well that's different, I've didn't even think anyone hunted on horseback with dogs anymore. Must be a British thing, and it does sound like it's done by a bunch of idiots.

When I said hunting I was thinking just one or two people alone with a gun, hunting something they can eat. I have no idea why anyone would want to hunt or fish for sport.

Starbreaker wrote:

Fatal Exception wrote:I totally disagree. I'd bother to write up why but I have work to do.

I have no idea how you'd even start defending it to be honest.

I shouldn't need to defend it really. There aren't any in (IMHO) valid excuses for why fox hunting was band in the first place. In fact I'd like to see a good argument without any classist remarks. I also object to the way the law was pushed through the House of Lords in a very undemocratic way.

As for "Hunting & Fishing for sport". Your problem is what? That people enjoy it?

Fatal Exception wrote:

Starbreaker wrote:

Fatal Exception wrote:I totally disagree. I'd bother to write up why but I have work to do.

I have no idea how you'd even start defending it to be honest.

I shouldn't need to defend it really. There aren't any in (IMHO) valid excuses for why fox hunting was band in the first place. In fact I'd like to see a good argument without any classist remarks. I also object to the way the law was pushed through the House of Lords in a very undemocratic way.

As for "Hunting & Fishing for sport". Your problem is what? That people enjoy it?

That's silly. Fox hunting per se I have no quarrel with; as stated - if there's a fox on your land, endangering livestock, then by all means pump it full of buckshot. Hunting and, yes, fishing for sport? Anyone who does it is a moron, simple as. What's the point in chasing an animal for two hours with a pack of hounds when you could just dispense with it using a single bullet? Fishing I'll grant you is more socially acceptable, but even in fish that are returned once caught, there's a 90% mortality rate. Anyone who condones hunting for pleasure is either trying to be "edgy and cool" or a complete strawberry floating moron. "The undemocratic way in which it was pushed through Lords" - only because (you're right, I can't make a valid argument without bringing class into it, but that's because it's an intrinsic part of the whole affair) it would have been near impossible to pass the bill through Lords when most of the, let's face it, skewed population representation that is the HoL would have been ridiculous about it.

I'm having trouble understanding this.

As for "Hunting & Fishing for sport". Your problem is what? That people enjoy it?

...Um, your point is that the one-hour vapid enjoyment of stressing a living creature to exhaustion before it's torn to shreds by hounds is more important that the life of an animal?

Starbreaker is telling it like it is, big ups to him.

I love camping, hiking, mountain biking, sea kayaking and rock climbing. Go camping quite a bit now with a bunch of people I met off a gaming forum, none of my real life friends have the stomach for it, the pussies.