Doanloading shows from iPlayer

PostDoanloading shows from iPlayer by **melatonin** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:37 pm

NOT IN THE STRICTLY LEGAL SENSE.

Any way to do it, so I can save the programmes as .avis or whatever? I heard there was a Firefox add-on or something that enabled this.

PostRe: Doanloading shows from iPlayer by **Turok** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:26 pm

Downloadhelper

You should find it in the Firefox add-ons page.

No idea if it works for iPlayer, as those racists don't give access outside of the UK so I never got to try it. :evil:

It doesn't, but seems good anyway. Cheers.

iPlayer, though? Anyone?

Worth a shot perhaps. Although the fact that it pretends to be an iPhone suggests it's download a low res version.

Post by **Schrodinger's Postman** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:08 am

http://beebhack.wikia.com/wiki/Programs

That get_iplayer command line program is exactly what I needed. Many thanks!

Christ, go buy the strawberry floating DVD if you want a show that badly.
They've created iPlayer, 4OD, iTVplayer and whatever else... Spotify, LastFM ... Orange Wednesdays, cheap DVDs... and you still, still feel the need to copy what isn't yours.

I despair.

Last edited by Harry Bizzle on Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.

He'd probably buy it if he wasn't worried about the floor falling though.

PostRe: Doanloading shows from iPlayer by **Dual** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:23 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:Christ, go buy the strawberry floating DVD if you want a show that badly.
They've created iPlayer, 4OD, iTVplayer and whatever else... Spotify, LastFM ... Orange Wednesdays, cheap DVDs... and you still, still feel the need to copy what isn't yours.

I despair.

Are you from the entertainment business?

PostRe: Doanloading shows from iPlayer by **Shadow** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:35 pm

Why don't they just let you keep the content you've downloaded? Seems totally unnecessary to have it delete itself from your HDD after a few days, what's it to them if I want to keep a full series of a show I'VE PAID FOR THEM TO BLOODY MAKE!?

PostRe: Doanloading shows from iPlayer by **Moggy** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:31 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:Christ, go buy the strawberry floating DVD if you want a show that badly.
They've created iPlayer, 4OD, iTVplayer and whatever else... Spotify, LastFM ... Orange Wednesdays, cheap DVDs... and you still, still feel the need to copy what isn't yours.

I despair.

BBC stuff is ours. We pay for it to be created in the first place!

Kagamine Rin wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:Christ, go buy the strawberry floating DVD if you want a show that badly.
They've created iPlayer, 4OD, iTVplayer and whatever else... Spotify, LastFM ... Orange Wednesdays, cheap DVDs... and you still, still feel the need to copy what isn't yours.

I despair.

Are you from the entertainment business?

Heeell no. I'm a TV license payer, too. But the one millionth percent contribution that could be link to any particular show doesn't give me the right to copy it - besides, if everyone did have that right, the license fee would have to go up even more as there'd be less cash from DVD sales.

Post by **Schrodinger's Postman** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:51 pm

Oh, I didn't realise you could buy Top Gear/Mock the Week/QI/Have I Got News for You/Newswipe/Nevermind the Buzzcocks/whatever the hell else I torrent on a regular basis. Also pretty sure that downloading it is no different to recording it on a DVR or similar and then keeping it. Are you against people recording stuff off TV too?

PostRe: by **Slartibartfast** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:14 pm

Schrodinger's Postman wrote:Oh, I didn't realise you could buy Top Gear/Mock the Week/QI/Have I Got News for You/Newswipe/Nevermind the Buzzcocks/whatever the hell else I torrent on a regular basis. Also pretty sure that downloading it is no different to recording it on a DVR or similar and then keeping it. Are you against people recording stuff off TV too?

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/3326849/Top-Gear-The-Challenges/Product.html
http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/6073053/QI-The-C-Series/Product.html
http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/127574/Have-I-Got-News-For-You-The-Best-Of-The-Guest-Presenters-Vol-1/Product.html (I actually own that - the 'full Boris' is immense!)
http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/11071649/The-Best-Of-Never-Mind-The-Buzzcocks/Product.html

Also there is a thing call a TV schedule so you can sit down and watch the programmes and even better, a minimum 7 day catch up service!

Recording off the TV may not be legally or significantly morally different to downloading, but the action of file sharing* is more akin to recording off the TV and then going to the pub to flog on the tapes, which I would be against.

*I believe that downloading is never actionable by the media companies, as it would break the convention of being able to record from live TV. But if they catch you uploading you're gonna be told off.

Shut the strawberry float up.

Post by **Schrodinger's Postman** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:33 pm

I have practically every episode of HIGNFY. You can't buy them like that, only a few have ever been released on DVD. The only way to get them is via torrents. Same goes for Buzzcocks and Top Gear. QI only goes up to the third series yet there's another three after that. Also I like how you think I'm not working when half of this stuff is on TV but that's ignoring the simple fact that I've hardly watched live TV for the last three years. I want to watch TV when I want, where I want. There is no way of doing this with a streaming service. I also want to watch a series in one big go, again not possible if shows are made unavailable after 7 days.
Also P2P is not like "going down the pub and flogging the tapes" for the simple fact that money doesn't change hands. There's no profit motive in it. Only the simple idea that knowledge is free and everyone should be free to have it regardless of their geographical location.

melatonin wrote:Shut the strawberry float up.

Heh.

Schrodinger's Postman wrote:I have practically every episode of HIGNFY. You can't buy them like that, only a few have ever been released on DVD. The only way to get them is via torrents. Same goes for Buzzcocks and Top Gear. QI only goes up to the third series yet there's another three after that. Also I like how you think I'm not working when half of this stuff is on TV but that's ignoring the simple fact that I've hardly watched live TV for the last three years. I want to watch TV when I want, where I want. There is no way of doing this with a streaming service. I also want to watch a series in one big go, again not possible if shows are made unavailable after 7 days.
Also P2P is not like "going down the pub and flogging the tapes" for the simple fact that money doesn't change hands. There's no profit motive in it. Only the simple idea that knowledge is free and everyone should be free to have it regardless of their geographical location.

No profit motive? Where does the revenue from the advertising on Mininova and The Pirate Bay go? They have millions of hits for a relatively low bandwidth service - there is a lot of money to be made in pirating.

As for the first half of the post - get over it, the world doesn't revolve around you. Why should you be above the law so you can get free TV? DVD production has always lagged behind the initial release - you seem somehow shocked it's not in the shops as it's on the TV! (Not that you even knew you could get half the TV shows you quoted on DVD.)

TV services are changing, and maybe soon you will be able to legally watch something all in one go - I know 4OD and the BBC's own programming is often always available - at least until the series has finished airing. For example, right now you can watch every episode of every series of Peep Show on 4OD. But it's not 'your right' for this to be the case.

Frankly, you're better off just admitting what you're doing is wrong and that it might be damaging to media companies, but say 'strawberry float it, I can get away with it so I'll keep doing it'.

PostRe: Doanloading shows from iPlayer by **Moggy** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:52 pm

I fully admit a lot of what I download is wrong. I don't really care though.

The BBC is different to a Hollywood movie though. A Hollywood movie is designed just to make money (even an arty/indie film hopes to make some cash). The BBC is there to educate, entertain and inform. The BBC was never set up to make cash from DVD sales and so I do not think it is wrong to download BBC shows for free.

If anything they should be forced to release all of their output to licence payers for free and be banned from selling DVDs in the UK. They could make a decent amount of money selling downloads of Top Gear for £1 an episode to people abroad.

Moggy wrote:I fully admit a lot of what I download is wrong. I don't really care though.

The BBC is different to a Hollywood movie though. A Hollywood movie is designed just to make money (even an arty/indie film hopes to make some cash). The BBC is there to educate, entertain and inform. The BBC was never set up to make cash from DVD sales and so I do not think it is wrong to download BBC shows for free.

If anything they should be forced to release all of their output to licence payers for free and be banned from selling DVDs in the UK. They could make a decent amount of money selling downloads of Top Gear for £1 an episode to people abroad.

It does have a different purpose than fully privately funded company, yes, but it still does have real people to pay and needs money. I think, too, you should be happy how the BBC has been pushing boundaries - the iPlayer was the first of its type from a major broadcaster... not to mention the [at the time] pioneering BBC website.

How to provide content is not fully in their control - music royalties have to be paid, possibly some sort of actor royalty? I'm not sure, but point is, even if they wanted to they can't just give away content due to all the vested interests. Plus
if they just gave all their stuff away so Dave (for example) wouldn't buy it, then there could be a real impact on the licence fee rising to cover the costs.

You have a fair point with the educational stuff - but their content is usually free to schools anyway. News doesn't really need to be seen after 7 days and if it's entertainment material I see no conflict in the BBC charging for your own copy.

PostRe: Doanloading shows from iPlayer by **Moggy** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:53 pm

The examples of Dave or DVD sales are a recent phenomenon. The BBC never used to make money through selling programmes to the UK public and Dave buying stuff has only recently happened.

We could argue all day long and not agree though as I don’t really care if downloading is right or wrong. It is convenient for me to download the TV series that I want to watch and so I will continue to do so (if I miss the original broadcast and its not available legally). I love downloading entire series to watch at my leisure. Nothing worse than an episode ending on a cliffhanger and having to wait two weeks (because the snooker is on the week after).

I do agree though on the iPlayer. That is a wonderful little invention.

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