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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tenth Planet
by The Watching Artist » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:46 pm

Has anyone watched anything!?

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tenth Planet
by Jenuall » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:33 pm

Still need to do part 4 of the Time Meddler, tried to sneak it in on my lunch break at work but annoyingly Google drive seems to be blocked in the office! :x

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tenth Planet
by Grum » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:52 pm

Sorry Matt been having problems with my pc which has meant I have been struggling to catch up and had a busy week.

I'm on my fourth attempt at getting through Time Meddler. I'll finish that tonight and get started on Tenth Planet. Will be able to get that watched over the weekend and hopefully the new serial.

I'm enjoying it more on the fourth watch of the first two episodes ;) the space helmet for a cow line was good :)

I'll give my impressions once I'm finished.

I'm really looking forward to Tenth Planet. Thanks for running this Matt.

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tenth Planet
by Grum » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:04 pm

Finished Time Meddler. I enjoyed it and it had a few amusing bits but it is my least favourite of the three serials so far.

The third and fourth episodes really picked up the pace and I liked the new companions. It was good just probably didn't help that my pc kept crashing so I had to restart so many times.

I'm planning to get the DVDs of the available first doctor serials. I look forward to filling in some of the blanks. Is a shame that so many episodes are lost.

Missed Barbara and Ian :(

I'm just about to start The Tenth Planet :toot:

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tenth Planet
by The Watching Artist » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:09 am

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Jenuall wrote:Still need to do part 4 of the Time Meddler, tried to sneak it in on my lunch break at work but annoyingly Google drive seems to be blocked in the office! :x
The bastards!
Grum wrote:Is a shame that so many episodes are lost.

It gets worse before it gets better :dread:
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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tenth Planet
by The Watching Artist » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:42 pm

I've spoilered this weeks for a reason. Don't open until you've watched The Tenth Planet
STORY 5


A new Doctor. A new enemy. The Tenth Planet was an important story. The end of one era but the start of something new. With William Hartnell gone no one from the original TARDIS crew remained and Patrick Troughton was given the job of somehow rejuvenating the Doctor. The Cybermen proved popular and, with the Daleks beginning to be over saturated, they were quickly brought back attacking a base on the moon. The Cybermen would go on to feature 4 times up against the 2nd Doctor and by this point in his life he has already seen off the Daleks twice, one being the "ultimate end". Also he has said goodbye to Ben and Polly but picked up a Scottish lad. Sadly as before much is missing of this era. In fact this weeks story was only found in 1991 and not only is it the earliest complete 2nd Doctor story until recently this was the only complete story of season 5. Season 5 starts with a cracker!

Story 5-

The Tomb of the Cybermen

In the far future a group of archeologists are investigating the planet Telos. As they uncover the secrets of the planet a strange blue box appears. The Doctor is joined by Jamie, a highlander from the 1700's and Victoria, the daughter of a Victorian scientist recently killed by the Daleks, has just joined them on their travels. Together they explore........... The Tomb of the Cybermen!

Originally Broadcast- 2 September to 23 September 1967
Written by- Kit Pedler & Gerry Davis

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tomb of the Cybermen
by jawafour » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:10 am

Okay... I've watched storylines 1, 2 and 3 but have yet to start 4 (The Tenth Planet) or 5 (The Tomb of the Cybermen).

I plan to get into the fourth one shortly.

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tomb of the Cybermen
by jawafour » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:39 pm

I've watched storyline 4 - The Tenth Planet episode 1.

Quite a mysterious start to this series and the musical effects set the tone! This Ben companion seems to be a bit of a "Cor, blimey, guv!" kinda character. Had a wee laugh when the space station control guy said, in response to the Zeus 4 pilots quandary, "It's probably just space fatigue".

Oh boy! So, the Cybermen arrive and immediately go into jedi disguise mode before striking people to,the ground with the mildest of whacks :lol: . Brilliant stuff and it sets things up for episode 2.

I did like the cool intro and outro sequence when the credits appeared with various letter symbols in between... pretty nice style for the game.

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tenth Planet
by jawafour » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:45 pm

The Watching Artist wrote:For when you all watch The Tenth Planet ep 1-
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I resisted clicking until I had viewed the first episode and.. :o ... that's amazing! A lovely homage to Who that I hadn't been aware of.

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tenth Planet
by The Watching Artist » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:39 pm

jawafour wrote:
The Watching Artist wrote:For when you all watch The Tenth Planet ep 1-
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I resisted clicking until I had viewed the first episode and.. :o ... that's amazing! A lovely homage to Who that I hadn't been aware of.

Thats not a homage its recycling. :lol:

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tomb of the Cybermen
by jawafour » Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:55 am

I've watched storyline 4 - The Tenth Planet episode 2.

Like humans... but without emotions! Ben soon witnessed the strength of the new arrivals, exclaiming "Blimey!" as they bent a gun with their bare mechanical hands.

With this first look at the Cyberman, they don't seem to be evil as such; just totally focused on themselves and their own survival. Sure, taking resources from Earth isn't exactly friendly, but it seems like they're doing it to for reasons of logic rather than to harm others. The ends doesn't justify the means... but they do feel less evil than the Daleks. Although the costumes are of their time, they look a bit cooler, too :shifty: .

And then there is talk of a first interplanetary war :o . Cue raucous music! The base's scanner shows that hundreds of ships are arriving!

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tomb of the Cybermen
by The Watching Artist » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:25 am

Good work Jawa.

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tomb of the Cybermen
by jawafour » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:56 pm

I've watched storyline 4 - The Tenth Planet episode 3.

An interesting episode as you see very little of the Cybermen or the Doctor; the focus is on building the tension for the rocket launch and it does a pretty good job of it!

I wonder if the energy draining being undertaken by the planet Mondas is affecting the Doctor's energy?

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by The Watching Artist » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:16 pm

Really looking forward to your reaction to episode 4! :o

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tomb of the Cybermen
by jawafour » Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:58 pm

The Watching Artist wrote:Really looking forward to your reaction to episode 4! :o


Just watched storyline 4 - The Tenth Planet episode 4.

:o ... :o ... :shock: . I can only imagine that the cartoon presentation is because the original version was lost? To be fair, the artists have done an excellent job - the characters are clearly recognisable from the earlier filmed episodes. Am I right in thinking that the soundtrack and voicing is as per the original film version, though? It's a dreadful shame if the film has been lost but, again, this comic version is extremely well done.

As for the storyline, this has been my favourite one so far. It has kept my attention and I have been eager to watch each episode. It's remarkable that the Doctor wasn't really a main character, although I am confused as to why he was so affected by Mondas. I don't feel that aspect was explained... and why did the Doctor become so poorly that he regenerated?

I enjoyed seeing the Cybermen - their appearance and even their voicing was, considering the time, pretty well done.

I thoroughly enjoyed that :toot: .

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tomb of the Cybermen
by Hyperion » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:35 pm

I'm quite far behind, one every week is a bit too quick for me at the moment. Should be able to pick up the pace from next week

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tomb of the Cybermen
by The Watching Artist » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:37 pm

Jawa. :wub:
jawafour wrote:I can only imagine that the cartoon presentation is because the original version was lost? To be fair, the artists have done an excellent job - the characters are clearly recognisable from the earlier filmed episodes. Am I right in thinking that the soundtrack and voicing is as per the original film version, though? It's a dreadful shame if the film has been lost but, again, this comic version is extremely well done.

Yeah.
Although footage of one scene remains (see the new story intro). The audio survives because fans use to record the audio off of the TV when it was broadcast. Some stuff on the lost eps and some recently found ones!



jawafour wrote:It's remarkable that the Doctor wasn't really a main character

William Hartnell had time off due to ill health. So it was rewritten late on, with the Doctor collapsing etc. His health was one of the main reasons for recasting the Doctor.
jawafour wrote:I don't feel that aspect was explained... and why did the Doctor become so poorly that he regenerated?

Its always been a bit of a mystery as to exactly why it happens. Most tend to just put it down to old age of that body. The radiation on the base and the influence of Mondas on him being a contributing factor. Perhaps we will find out more at Christmas? In the original script his last words are something like "No... no, I simply will not give in!" But they ran out of time to record this. You may notice this is much like 12's recent stubbornness to regenerate and who turns up in a snowy place? The first Doctor!

Of course you might find out exactly how the show dealt with it at the time if you watch the follow up story "The Power of the Daleks". Sadly we had to skip along for the club.

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Tomb of the Cybermen
by jawafour » Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:26 pm

The Watching Artist wrote:...Some stuff on the lost eps and some recently found ones!...

Wow! I hadn't realised just how many episodes had been lost... so, just under 100 are currently missing. it seems amazing that they ever could have been destroyed.

The Watching Artist wrote:...William Hartnell had time off due to ill health. So it was rewritten late on, with the Doctor collapsing etc. His health was one of the main reasons for recasting the Doctor...

I guess that Hartnell wasn't exactly a spring chicken when he started the show but it's a shame that it ended in that way. He seemed to play an older, knowledgeable but slightly impatient kind of Doctor :wub: . And, of course, this enabled the first ever regeneration!

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Mind Robber
by The Watching Artist » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:52 pm

Story 6-

The Mind Robber

With the TARDIS in imminent danger The Doctor is forced to take the the ship out of known reality using the emergency unit. He, Jamie and Zoe, an astrophysicist from the 21st Century, find themselves lost in a white void. Doctor Who is about to get very surreal as team TARDIS discover the land of fiction....

Originally Broadcast- 14 September to 12 October 1968
Written by- Peter Ling

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This weeks is 5 episodes so I've decided to give you 2 weeks. Admittedly this is mainly because you are all miles back.

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Mind Robber
by jawafour » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:15 pm

Oh, man, I feel bad for being a little off the pace with the storylines. I haven't started the fifth one yet but I will try and get stuck in over the weekend.

I'm really enjoying the episodes when I do watch them, though. Thanks for continuing to organise the shows, TWA :toot: .


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