Cheeky Devlin wrote:The Watching Artist wrote:Cheeky Devlin wrote:The Watching Artist wrote:Jenuall wrote:The Watching Artist wrote:Dual wrote:I thought Missy was the Master so what's happened there?
Yes. So lets hope we get an explanation as to why Missy doesn't remember.
Do we know how much time has passed for her? The Doctor certainly has form for forgetting things after significant time has passed. That said you'd think she would remember something as significant as this!
I don't think so. She just turns up in Dark Water (and the glimpses before that) and its left very open. That then doesn't even include the gaps since then.
Hexx wrote:There's also the fact Simmaster seems to know what's up with Missy's rehabilitation...hence him actively trying to derail it...
Yeah. I guess that could just be a case of him working it out from what was happening in the higher part of the ship. He might have heard the bits about it being a test for Missy. I don't think its really beyond the ability of the Master to work that out even with the time speed difference. Maybe even Bill said something in the years down there.
Do we know for certain that he is
an earlier version of her? Could be that
she regenerates into him?
Ah I'd forgotten about that. Doesn't mean that she's not an earlier version though, does it? Has she specifically referenced stuff that she did as either Jacobi or Simm?
Well I'm almost certain she has to be a post Time War one. Seeing as Jacobi is The War Master and Simm follows on the only place she can be is post Simm (if post Time War) and she clearly recongnised Simm at the end and the former Prime Minister line. If somehow she is an earlier version then that means that Simm has forgotten which possibly makes even less sense.
Maybe it will end up being that the Doctor wipes Simms memory of what happens in order to try and give Missy a clean slate and do good thing in the end. Whatever that is.
Also I kind of hope that we don't find out quite what Simms Master has been up to since The End of Time. Been thinking and I'm sad that Smith never got a Master story. So it would be quite nice if they didn't make it completely clear that this was the first time the Doctor had seen him since then. Just for future audios.