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PostRe: Re: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Caves of Androzani
by kerr9000 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:46 pm

I have to admit I always liked Peri , having met and talked to Nicola Bryant I like her even more now, really nice lady, really cool companion.

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- The Caves of Androzani
by The Watching Artist » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:23 pm

The Caves of Androzani stuff

Wow?

WOW

So good. :datass: Much amaze. :datass: Many masterpiece :datass:

Robert Holmes returns to write his first story in over 5 years, his previous stories included Spearhead from Space, The Time Warrior, The Ark in Space, Pyramids of Mars, The Deadly Assassin and The Talons of Weng-Chiang (plus many more). Combined with young director by the name of Graeme Harper it created a thrilling and decidedly forward thinking version of Doctor Who. Despite being made for now over 20 years Doctor Who had largely been made in the same way but Harper was keen to modernise the approach. His more cinematic direction helped create a production that still over 30 years on (almost) looks like it was made yesterday. It was deemed so successful that Peter Davison stated that had this happened earlier in his run he would have stayed on for another season.
We finally find out why The Doctor wears a stick of celery! Davison demanded that by the time he left this would be explained. :lol: The reason? Because he is allergic to certain gases in the praxis range of the spectrum. Which when present cause the celery to turn purple. He would then eat the celery......... "if nothing else I'm sure its good for my teeth."
Did you notice that as the Doctor takes control of the ship at the end of ep 3 the effect used for his vision going blurry is the same as used for the regeneration? Thats right the Doctor spent the final ep holding off his regen in order to save Peri. :o :shock: Take that 10 and your trip down memory lane. :datass:
David Bowie was considered for the role of Sharaz Jek, instead Christopher Gable got the role and turned in an incredible performance as the deranged scientist. The scene in ep 2. :datass: "Beauty I must have....."
The story also has a phenomenal score with Jek getting a rattle snake theme. The whole soundtrack is an incredible piece of work matching the story perfectly.....

The soundtrack actually got a full release in 2013.
Of course the production wasnt without its own problems. Strikes (again!) caused 2 scenes to be dropped and the regeneration was actually an extremly tense affair having to be done very late on. With just minutes left before the studio lights would be turned off the team had to create the most important moment in the show for years....

This is the first regeneration to feature specially recorded cameos from previous companions.
The Caves of Androzani should have been the blueprint for the show going forward. But that wouldn't happen. In DWM 400 Caves was voted fans fav, the following story "The Twin Dilemma" was ranked at the very bottom. :shock: :dread:
I said Doctor Who changed forever with this story and I didn't just mean that it was time for a new Doctor..........

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by The Watching Artist » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:31 pm

The Sixth Doctor

Ok club members. Time to move on a wee bit. But from here on things are going to be a bit tricky. The show was about to hit a crisis point and I'll do my best to fill in the gaps around things. Colin Baker had been cast as the new Doctor and for those who have watched the last few series featuring Peter Capaldi some of this may sound familiar.

After Davisons lovely more vulnerable and human take on the Doctor it was decided to again switch things up and with Sixie came an attempt to return the Doctor to his more alien and unpredictable origins. Brash, arrogant and often rude the life of Sixie was a troubled one. His now infamous outfit was designed as a metaphor for his new chaotic personality. A clash of colours and patterns that, in Colins own words, he was ok with because at least he didn't have to look at it. :lol: But beneath his bluster there was a lover of beauty and a fighter for justice. He was as likely to shoot a Dalek in the face as he was to recite poetry. In order to justify such a sudden change the Doctor would undergo a crisis and so would the show itself.....

The Doctors new erratic regeneration sees him clash with Peri and in one psychotic episode he even becomes deluded and strangles her.

Unfortunately the whole thing is, quite frankly, a misjudged mess. With Sixies opening story often placed last in polls such an important character defining moment (for both) should have been handled with care but the Doctors "illness" is so poorly handled it baffles that it made it to broadcast. But....... BUT! That doesn't mean it was all shite........

Story 26-

Vengeance on Varos


The Sixth Doctor and Peri become stranded on the brutal and violent planet Varos with the TARDIS in need of repair. We are not the only ones watching for our entertainment......

Originally Broadcast- 19 - 26 January 1985
Written by- Philip Martin

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P.S. They had changed the format of the show for season 22 so whilst this is 2 eps both are 45mins.
P.P.S. If you get through this without staring at certain things you are a better man then me. Or Hexx.

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PostRe: Re: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Vengeance on Varos
by kerr9000 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:15 pm

I kind of like the 6th Doctor being erratic and his regeneration being a bit a miss.... I am happy with the trying to strangile a companion thing but I would have made him a bit more imbalanced and had him cry after and such.

The thing for me is with both doctor 6 and 7 they very much start one way and then head in another direction but in both cases they didnt really get long enough to do so fully.

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Vengeance on Varos
by The Watching Artist » Sun May 20, 2018 11:56 am

Sorry about the delay. Dont worry too much as we are starting to near the end of this epic journey that no one is actually on anymore.

Need to fill in some gaps here for you as this weeks story carries on a thread started way back at the end of Genesis of the Daleks....

So at the end of Genesis the Daleks turn on Davros and kill him. Only obviously they dont. His back up life support kicks in and he sits there in the ruins of Kaled dome waiting......
Eventually the Daleks feel the need to return to Skaro in need of his help. This is covered in the story Destiny of the Daleks. Its....... a bit shite.

A widescreen fan edit is actually up on youtube at the mo- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y9yG7JbO_s So feel free to give it a watch. Its actually the story before City of Death btw. At the end of it Davros is imprisoned and to be taken to trial for his crimes. Buuuuuuut the Daleks free him in Resurrection of the Daleks (1984) needing his help again. This is a much better story (actually in the mood to watch it now) and introduces the conflict between Davros and the Supreme Dalek.


It introduces Terry Molloy as Davros who is a marked improvement over the Destiny version. :dread: He makes the role his own for the rest of the classic run whilst also reappearing in various Big Finish audio stories. In Resurrection Davros attempts to take control of the Daleks and usurp the Supreme Dalek but is unable to. However Davros is nothing if not resourceful......


Story 27-

Revelation of the Daleks

The Doctor and Peri have arrived on Necros, the planet of the famed Tranquil Repose facility, here the recently deceased bodies of the wealthy are cryogenically frozen. The Doctor is here to pay his last respects to an old friend but Tranquil Repose hides a dark secret. The Great Healer is at work....

Originally Broadcast- 23 - 30 March 1985
Written by- Eric Saward

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Revelation of the Daleks
by The Watching Artist » Wed May 23, 2018 10:38 pm



So er thats brilliant and all....... but FFS. All the club effort. :x

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Revelation of the Daleks
by jawafour » Wed May 23, 2018 10:43 pm

The Watching Artist wrote:(Doctor Who on Twitch from 29 May)

Wow :shock: . This seems pretty cool... 235-odd hours of Who available on demand for free?

It sounds great! But I wonder why the BBC is showing this via Twitch rather than their iPlayer? Does Twitch normally do things like this?

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Revelation of the Daleks
by The Watching Artist » Wed May 23, 2018 11:01 pm

jawafour wrote:
The Watching Artist wrote:(Doctor Who on Twitch from 29 May)

Wow :shock: . This seems pretty cool... 235-odd hours of Who available on demand for free?

It sounds great! But I wonder why the BBC is showing this via Twitch rather than their iPlayer? Does Twitch normally do things like this?

Its not on demand. There is a schedule.
https://www.doctorwho.tv/watch/twitch/#UK

They will show a few hours 3 times a day. Well a day in the US. Here its 7pm. Then about midnight and then in the morning the next day.

Trying to investigate if its possible to set up an individual chat so people here can watch and chat. Maybe I can rehost and people can chat on the my channel. I dunno.

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Revelation of the Daleks
by Garth » Wed May 23, 2018 11:18 pm

That's awesome!

How about discord?

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Revelation of the Daleks
by jawafour » Wed May 23, 2018 11:19 pm

The Watching Artist wrote:Its not on demand. There is a schedule...

Personally, I hardly ever watch TV live - I record it and watch it when it suits me. I probably wouldn't be that keen on this approach.

The Watching Artist wrote:...Trying to investigate if its possible to set up an individual chat so people here can watch and chat. Maybe I can rehost and people can chat on the my channel. I dunno.

This could be a cool idea!

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Revelation of the Daleks
by The Watching Artist » Thu May 24, 2018 12:54 pm

Ok. So I've put the schedule here (I'll put it in the OP when I have time) and I'm going to highlight ones I think are really worth tuning in for (BLUE) and ones that have already been part of the Club.(RED) I'll try and do some little posts nearer the event to perhaps try explain why and whats happening and how they might link with others. Its worth noting that this is NOT all of classic Who and actually some quite notable stories are missing. Some of which are part of the DWGRCWC! :toot: In fact the current one isn't on the Twitch schedule! 8-)

Please excuse the mess.... Note I may edit the selections once I've given it more thought.

UK screening times
Please note: Most second and third run UK times are for the morning of the following day to the date listed

Date Adventures 1st Run 2nd Run 3rd Run
29 May- An Unearthly Child, The Daleks , The Edge Of Destruction 19:00 00:51 06:42
30 May- The Keys Of Marinus, The Aztecs, The Sensorites 19:00 02:12 09:24
31 May- Planet Of Giants, The Dalek Invasion Of Earth, The Rescue, The Romans 19:00 01:45 08:30
01 June- The Web Planet , The Space Museum, The Chase 19:00 02:12 09:24
04 June- The Time Meddler, The Ark, The Gunfighters, The War Machines 19:00 02:12 09:24
05 June- Tomb Of The Cybermen, The Ice Warriors, The Enemy of the World 19:00 02:12 09:24
06 June- The Web Of Fear, The Dominators, The Mind Robber 19:00 01:46 08:33
07 June- The Krotons, The Seeds Of Death, The War Games 19:00 03:40 12:20
08 June- Spearhead From Space, The Silurians 19:00 23:57 04:54
11 June- The Ambassadors Of Death, Inferno 19:00 01:18 07:36
12 June- Terror Of The Autons, The Mind Of Evil, The Claws Of Axos 19:00 01:18 07:36
13 June- Colony In Space, The Daemons, The Curse Of Peladon 19:00 01:45 08:30
14 June- The Sea Devils, The Mutants 19:00 00:24 05:48
15 June- The Time Monster, The Three Doctors, Carnival Of Monsters 19:00 01:18 07:36
18 June- Frontier In Space, Planet Of The Daleks 19:00 00:54 06:48
19 June- The Green Death, The Time Warrior, Invasion Of The Dinosaurs 19:00 02:12 09:24
20 June- Death To The Daleks, The Monster Of Peladon, Planet Of The Spiders 19:00 02:12 09:24
21 June- Robot, The Ark In Space, The Sontaran Experiment, Genesis of the Daleks 19:00 02:12 09:24
22 June- Revenge Of The Cybermen, Terror Of The Zygons, Planet Of Evil, Pyramids Of Mars 19:00 02:12 09:24
25 June- The Android Invasion, The Brain Of Morbius, The Seeds Of Doom 19:00 01:18 07:36
26 June- The Masque Of Mandragora, The Hand Of Fear, The Deadly Assassin, The Face Of Evil 19:00 02:12 09:24
27 June- The Robots Of Death, The Talons Of Weng-Chiang, Horror of Fang Rock 19:00 01:18 07:36
28 June- The Invisible Enemy, Image Of The Fendahl, The Sunmakers, Underworld 19:00 01:52 08:44
02 July- The Invasion Of Time, The Ribos Operation, The Pirate Planet 19:00 01:18 07:36
03 July- The Stones Of Blood, The Androids Of Tara, The Power Of Kroll, The Armageddon Factor 19:00 02:46 10:32
04 July- Destiny Of The Daleks, City Of Death, The Creature From The Pit, Nightmare Of Eden 19:00 02:12 09:24
05 July- The Horns Of Nimon, The Leisure Hive, Meglos, Full Circle 19:00 01:31 08:03
06 July- State Of Decay, Warriors' Gate, The Keeper Of Traken, Logopolis, K9 And Company 19:00 03:06 11:12
09 July- Castrovalva, Four To Doomsday, Kinda, The Visitation 19:00 02:12 09:24
10 July- Black Orchid, Earthshock, Time-Flight, Arc Of Infinity 19:00 01:18 07:36
11 July- Snakedance, Mawdryn Undead, Terminus, Enlightenment 19:00 02:12 09:24
12 July- The King's Demons, Warriors Of The Deep, The Awakening, Frontios, The Caves Of Androzani 19:00 04:00 13:00
16 July- The Twin Dilemma, Attack Of The Cybermen, Vengeance On Varos 19:00 00:24 05:48
17 July- The Mark Of The Rani, The Two Doctors, Timelash 19:00 01:18 07:36
18 July- The Trial Of A Time Lord 19:00 01:18 07:36
19 July- Time And The Rani, Paradise Towers, Delta And The Bannermen, Dragonfire 19:00 01:18 07:36
20 July- The Happiness Patrol, Silver Nemesis, The Greatest Show In The Galaxy, Battlefield, Ghost Light 19:00 02:24 09:48
23 July- The Curse Of Fenric, Survival 19:00 22:09 01:18

Man I'm looking forward to this. A good chance for me to watch some of crappy ones without buying the DVDs! :toot:

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Revelation of the Daleks
by The Watching Artist » Thu May 24, 2018 12:59 pm

Garth wrote:That's awesome!

How about discord?

Maybe but I think it would be easier to keep it all on Twitch. One less thing for people to have open. It is an option.
jawafour wrote:This could be a cool idea!

I suspect the main feed will have loads and loads of people chatting to the point where its almost pointless. So I'd like to create a kind of safe haven for you lot to actually be able to interact if you want to. So you can laugh and ask questions and take the piss out of Pedz gaming skills even when he isn't playing any games. :toot:

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Revelation of the Daleks
by The Watching Artist » Sun May 27, 2018 7:45 pm

B-B-B-B-B-B-B-BONUS TIME

Sup thread readers! So some of you may know I sometimes appear in Pedz super awesome podcast/film chatting thingy. For this weeks we did the 1965 big screen adaptation of the first Dalek story starring Peter Cushing. All you need to do is track down a copy of the film and hit play at the right moment and you've got Pedz, Jazzem, Earfolds and myself for company. For reference, Pedz and Earfolds have some experience with Doctor Who but neither have seen this and poor pooooooor Jazzem has no idea whats going on.

http://grcade.co.uk/t:the-pugsley-crew-views---a-movie-commentary-show?p=4307290#p4307290

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And yeah. We plan on doing the follow up. :toot:

Also I think I've got my twitch account sorted for the Doctor Who binging of a lifetime. It should host the TwitchPresents channel and thus allow you to chat as a group. I'll try and be about for as much as I can so just say hi- https://www.twitch.tv/mattking85

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Revelation of the Daleks
by Hyperion » Sun May 27, 2018 9:00 pm

Can I watch it from Deutschland?

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by The Watching Artist » Sun May 27, 2018 9:05 pm

Hyperion wrote:Can I watch it from Deutschland?

The film or the stream?

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Revelation of the Daleks
by Hyperion » Sun May 27, 2018 9:22 pm

The Watching Artist wrote:
Hyperion wrote:Can I watch it from Deutschland?

The film or the stream?

Twitch

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by The Watching Artist » Sun May 27, 2018 9:27 pm

Hyperion wrote:
The Watching Artist wrote:
Hyperion wrote:Can I watch it from Deutschland?

The film or the stream?

Twitch

Dont see why not

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Revelation of the Daleks
by kerr9000 » Sun May 27, 2018 9:35 pm

I have a double collection dvd set of the two Peter cushing Dr Who Movies so will have to give your thing a listen... I love watching anything with cushing in it and love any excuse to give another of his films a go.

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PostRe: Doctor Who- GR Classic Who Club- Revelation of the Daleks
by The Watching Artist » Tue May 29, 2018 4:31 pm

kerr9000 wrote:I have a double collection dvd set of the two Peter cushing Dr Who Movies so will have to give your thing a listen... I love watching anything with cushing in it and love any excuse to give another of his films a go.

That would be cool. Pedz enjoys making them and hopes to have more people give them a listen. :toot:

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PostRe: Doctor Who- Twitch Doctor Who Marathon starts 7PM today!
by The Watching Artist » Tue May 29, 2018 4:37 pm

Hexx wrote:Class chum :wub:

Apparently Big Finish are going to carry Class on. :o

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