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Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:55 pm
by Rudolphin
Brerlappin wrote:Nah, its aged well i think. Aside from being about 5 hours longer than it needs to be, but as a horror corridor shooter its still pretty fun, and with a few mods looks great.



Mmmmmyyyyyeeeeehhhhh.

Maybe. It's been a while. All I recall from my last play through was how piddly the weapons sounded and how bad the story was.

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:46 am
by Partridge Iciclebubbles
I remember a friend of mine was so excited in the build up to Doom 3. He loved the earlier games and would buy every single magazine that featured anything about Doom 3. He spent hundred and hundreds of pounds on upgrading his PC so that it would play Doom 3 at the highest settings. He talked about nothing else for over a year before the game was released.

And he hated it. :lol:

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:25 am
by Preezy
Tafdolphin wrote:
Brerlappin wrote:Nah, its aged well i think. Aside from being about 5 hours longer than it needs to be, but as a horror corridor shooter its still pretty fun, and with a few mods looks great.



Mmmmmyyyyyeeeeehhhhh.

Maybe. It's been a while. All I recall from my last play through was how piddly the weapons sounded and how bad the story was.

The pea-shooter weapon noises are my dominant memories of Doom 3. So weak sounding :fp:

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:34 am
by *<]:^D
Moggy wrote:I remember a friend of mine was so excited in the build up to Doom 3. He loved the earlier games and would buy every single magazine that featured anything about Doom 3. He spent hundred and hundreds of pounds on upgrading his PC so that it would play Doom 3 at the highest settings. He talked about nothing else for over a year before the game was released.

And he hated it. :lol:


this sounds like me :(
are we friends Moggy? :o

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:37 am
by Partridge Iciclebubbles
<]:^D wrote:
Moggy wrote:I remember a friend of mine was so excited in the build up to Doom 3. He loved the earlier games and would buy every single magazine that featured anything about Doom 3. He spent hundred and hundreds of pounds on upgrading his PC so that it would play Doom 3 at the highest settings. He talked about nothing else for over a year before the game was released.

And he hated it. :lol:


this sounds like me :(
are we friends Moggy? :o


How can we be lovers if we can’t be friends?

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:45 am
by Preezy
Brerlappin wrote:Its almost as if you people never heard of the Trent Reznor sound pack for Doom 3

What's a Trent Reznor? :shifty:

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:46 am
by Partridge Iciclebubbles
Preezy wrote:
Brerlappin wrote:Its almost as if you people never heard of the Trent Reznor sound pack for Doom 3

What's a Trent Reznor? :shifty:


Shavers from Stoke.

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:14 am
by Rudolphin
Brerlappin wrote:
Preezy wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
Brerlappin wrote:Nah, its aged well i think. Aside from being about 5 hours longer than it needs to be, but as a horror corridor shooter its still pretty fun, and with a few mods looks great.



Mmmmmyyyyyeeeeehhhhh.

Maybe. It's been a while. All I recall from my last play through was how piddly the weapons sounded and how bad the story was.

The pea-shooter weapon noises are my dominant memories of Doom 3. So weak sounding :fp:


Its almost as if you people never heard of the Trent Reznor sound pack for Doom 3


Mmmmmyyyyyeeeeehhhhh.

I downloaded that once. Unless it's changed (or I'm mistaken) the majority of SFX were low quality rips from the Alpha.

I dunno. D3 was perfect for my 18 year old self, but my memory of it is one of a very "18 year old boy" game, all jump scares, shadows and stupid catchphrases.

"You're the control. I'm the damage."

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:17 am
by Jenu-All I Want For Christmas
D3 was a decent game in many way but it wasn't "DooM" enough for most people I think.

The originals were lightning fast gun ballets against large hordes of enemies played across cleverly designed, sprawling maps and all set to a fantastic soundtrack and spot on SFX. D3 was a slow paced jump shooter with several odd design choices but some fantastic visuals (for the time). I liked it enough at the time but it's the only game in the series I've never replayed.

For some reason I'm less excited about Doom Eternal than I thought I would be. I really enjoyed Doom 2016, and it wasn't because of the "lowered expectations" that others have mentioned as a bonus factor acting in its favour - I got it a good 6 months after release when everyone was (rightly) hailing it as the best shooter in years. So I should be really looking forward to Eternal but I can't put my finger on why I'm not, I guess part of it is a fear that the model laid down by 2016 could grow stale if not mixed up enough and what we have seen of Eternal so far does look very similar?

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:24 am
by Cal
Moggy wrote:I remember a friend of mine was so excited in the build up to Doom 3. He loved the earlier games and would buy every single magazine that featured anything about Doom 3. He spent hundred and hundreds of pounds on upgrading his PC so that it would play Doom 3 at the highest settings. He talked about nothing else for over a year before the game was released.

And he hated it. :lol:


Well, that's a shame. Personally, I got a lot out of Doom 3 (and I'm not just talking about those incredible space corridors). It was the first game that introduced me to level design with the map editor that became available. That led me to 3D design, texture design and so on. Seeing how this all married-up with my existing graphic design skills was an interesting journey. Doom 3 itself wasn't a brilliant game - I guess - but I did enjoy the story (such as it was). I became fascinated by the untold story of Dr. Betruger and his seduction by the powers of evil he unleashed through the portal. It was a shame that story was never explored - for me, it was by far the biggest missed opportunity. I did like the story beats of the data logs and audio files - that drip-drip of something awful slowly overwhelming the Mars facility as the first few disturbing incidents spiraled into absolute disaster. Again; it was probably a far more interesting story than the one we got in the game.

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:27 am
by Preezy
I was waiting for Cal to mention those corridors :lol: :datass:

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:02 pm
by Rudolphin
Cal wrote: I became fascinated by the untold story of Dr. Betruger and his seduction by the powers of evil


A story of a man sucked down into a dark hellhole full of creatures with horrible, horrible ways, who then emerges from said hole to plague the earth with his newly found abhorrent beliefs?

Sounds...familiar.

No wonder you strawberry floating liked it.

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:11 pm
by Jazzem
Tafdolphin wrote:If we're addressing this:

- I hated the "Demon is an offensive term" joke because it takes the "x is offensive term" phrasing, often used by people from minorities to protect themselves from hate speech, and pokes fun at it. It's misjudged, and exactly the sort of cheap, no-thought line you'd find on a Steam group with a Pepe logo.


Yeah I'm sick of jokes like this, thoroughly witless and punching down on marginalized groups. Got people who I otherwise like in social circles who say similar rubbish, one the other day with the '''zinger''' "Umm excuse me Nintendo you have no octolings at this Splatoon tournament, I consider that RACIST" :fp:

I've seen some people argue that it's satire on corporations inappropriately coopting progressive rhetoric for selfish reasons, which I'd like to think it is...but even then you know lots will laugh with it at the expense of identity politics.

Unpleasantness aside, Doom 1-2* and 2016 are my favourite FPSes ever and I cannot wait for this <3 And yes that Mario Odyssey mashup :wub:

*still haven't played 3 <.<

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:37 pm
by *<]:^D
Brerlappin wrote:Personally i think theres 2 types of Doom players: The PC owners, who grew up playing Doom with the awful midi synth rock soundtrack which made the game feel more fast paced and it was all about the speed and violence, and the people who grew up with the PSX version and the Aubrey Hodges soundtrack that turned the games atmosphere completely on its head and made it feel like you were playing a waking strawberry floating nightmare and made the game feel more like some kind of claustrophobic horror title. As the latter, i could appreciate Doom 3 a lot more than people who only knew the PC version, at least, thats my take on it.


hey hey hey as an avid fan of PC Doom 1&2 plus their modding scenes i think this is totally unfair
the people youre pejoratively referring to are actually the people who download Brutal Doom and the "metul" mp3 soundtracks and mod it in. actual OG Doom fans appreciate the subtle moments of Doom just as much as the fast-paced highs.
check out this demo of one of the best levels of the PWAD (custom mapsets) Sunlust for an example ;)

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:47 pm
by *<]:^D
:dread: is nowhere safe from these people :dread:
p.s. do you recognise the midi from that video? :wub:

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:59 pm
by Preezy
Brutal Doom was amazing :datass:

When I could get it to work :dread:

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:04 pm
by *<]:^D
dead to me, youre both dead to me :fp:

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:09 pm
by Rudolphin
Brerlappin wrote:PSX version and the Aubrey Hodges soundtrack that turned the games atmosphere completely on its head and made it feel like you were playing a waking strawberry floating nightmare


Oh wow. I did not know this existed and yeah, I can definitely see the thematic link between this and Doom 3. Spooky as strawberry float.

I mean


PSX version

vs


Classic PC version

I can't really disagree with anything else you've said re: D3 though. Well, not entirely. I wasn't as taken with the enemy designs as you were, the Imp in-particular is generic as strawberry float, but you're right about the depiction of Hell; it was downright boring in 2016. Still, that's one of the improvements Eternal seems to have made: the Hell elements look far more organic and interesting.

EDIT: As an aside, DOOM on PC was still scary as strawberry float. Some of the tracks were spoopy as, too.


Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:23 pm
by *<]:^D
thank you Taf

Re: Doom Eternal | PS4, XBO, PC, Switch | Rip and tear!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:32 pm
by Mafro
Taf :lol: