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Alpha eX wrote:Sounds like I missed a good episode, where can I watch a repeat?

iplayer

Skarjo wrote:Someone pitched a very good idea that the Dragons rejected for daft reasons.

"Someone else could make that"
"They can't, I've patented everything"
"They could make it with MDF"
"But it wouldn't work with MDF"
"I don't understand why it wouldn't work with MDF"
"Because of strawberry floating SCIENCE"
"I'm out"

I thought that was a strawberry floating fantastic idea (the skirting board radiator). Bannatyne was his usual retarded self. He was also a banana split to that recycled box couple. Theo was annoying as well, when he was talking to the radiator guy, he was like:

"If I needed £100,000 tomorrow for a sure thing business proposal, could you get the money?"
"Yeah, probably."
"Then you don't need us, I'm out."



He wanted your expertise and help in getting the product into shops, not the money! I am truly shocked that not one of them saw the potential in the skirting board radiator.

Wodja min you dun know the duffrunce between Grossprofa an' Ne'profa? THIS IS NO' A BUSINESS. And for those reasons, am-ow.

Brilliant!

Alvin Flummux wrote:Well things like that do need to be sturdy.

There's a difference between sturdy and being destructible.

I'm outraged that these budding 'entrepreneurs' don't call them up on some of the blatant gooseberry fool these Dragons talk as an excuse not to invest, why they can't just say I'm not interested is beyond me. Theo 'I must break everything' Paphitis is probably the biggest cock of them all. That man brought in a perfectly reasonable invention for a little shelf that clipped onto plug sockets to hold chargeable devices e.g. razor/electric toothbrush/mobile etc. So what does Theo come and do to weasel out of an investment, walks up to this example of the invention, puts his hand on it and pushes down with several pounds worth of force and surprise, surprise the thing breaks. WHAT THE strawberry float THEO YOU banana split. It's designed to hold small electrical devices, not human beings, I could walk up to my television and kick it of its stand and in all likelihood it would break, this doesn't mean that it's not a good invention, just that it's not indestructible. He did the same with that suitcase that children could ride, but that was more annoying because the sizable bulk that is Peter Jones even sat on that while the inventor easily pulled him around as proof that it worked. That wasn't good enough for Theo as he got hold of one and pulled off the strap that was used to pull the suitcase (using clearly a lot of force to do so). Like last night, this led to all the other Dragons dropping out.

At least think of a valid reason to not invest, don't just break the peoples prototypes and then use that as an excuse.

Wankers, the lot of them.

Herb wrote:That man brought in a perfectly reasonable invention for a little shelf that clipped onto plug sockets to hold chargeable devices e.g. razor/electric toothbrush/mobile etc. So what does Theo come and do to weasel out of an investment, walks up to this example of the invention, puts his hand on it and pushes down with several pounds worth of force and surprise, surprise the thing breaks. WHAT THE strawberry float THEO YOU banana split.

To be fair, when it comes to exposing electrical wires if the thing snaps, that was a reasonable thing that Theo did.

I agree with you about occasional insane reasons, though: the argument with the skirting-board-radiators guy was ridiculous. I thought that was a great idea, personally.

Eighthours wrote:I agree with you about occasional insane reasons, though: the argument with the skirting-board-radiators guy was ridiculous. I thought that was a great idea, personally.

The thing that annoyed me was that they were picking holes that were simply not there. They said that £400 (compared to a £100 radiator) to make a room several times more energy efficient didn't make sense which is bollocks. There are whole industries based around making houses more energy efficient in order to reap the rewards of cheaper energy bills. Loft insulation, solar panelling and new boilers can rack up bills in excess of several thousands but the money is made back with cheaper bills.

Guaranteed, even if the Dragons say no, someone watching will be in touch.

Eighthours wrote:

Herb wrote:That man brought in a perfectly reasonable invention for a little shelf that clipped onto plug sockets to hold chargeable devices e.g. razor/electric toothbrush/mobile etc. So what does Theo come and do to weasel out of an investment, walks up to this example of the invention, puts his hand on it and pushes down with several pounds worth of force and surprise, surprise the thing breaks. WHAT THE strawberry float THEO YOU banana split.

To be fair, when it comes to exposing electrical wires if the thing snaps, that was a reasonable thing that Theo did.

I agree with you about occasional insane reasons, though: the argument with the skirting-board-radiators guy was ridiculous. I thought that was a great idea, personally.

Lately its been getting pretty gooseberry fool, imo, the whole stuff about "my childrens inheritence" gets right on my tits, if i went to pitch an idea to them i would stab the strawberry floater in the eye.

I can understand the whole idea with breaking the shelf, it can only cause legal repocussions producing a product onto market that could potentially harm someone.

i liked the radiator idea personally, £400 a radiator thats hidden, and uses less energy, hmm sounds good, and its not like its a purchase you make every few years, its like an investment that could span accross decades, so whats a few grand to do a house and make it look more presentable?

oh and dont forget the strawberry floating pizza base cooker thing, that would be an amazing product, no matter how many times i cook a pizza, its usually a bit "soggy" in the middle, surely there is more that feel the same, "students" "single people" and for the dragons to say the market is not there, or the problem is not there, thats because we dont have hundreds of butlers in little nazi suits working for us, you banana splits.

I've only, after all this time, noticed the voiceover. Now I can't unotice it. But, an old, second series episode was on Dave last night and isn't all that different from how it is now, regarding the voiceover. 'Pathitis is impressed!' - He shuffles in his seat and asks a question. That example might have been from the current episode last night, but nevermind, it wasn't as different as I thought it would be, given that I've lost interest in the show lately. I dislike how they sacked Richard Farleigh (sp). James King is incredibly dull, almost invisible, Farleigh invested more than anyone and never appeared to be on there for reasons others than to invest, unlike Theo and Jones who obviously love the camera.

Farleigh came out with the funniest line..once. The man with his driving glove invention. He holds the glove and looks at it puzzlingly; '..somehow I don't think this is going to work'.

Bit snide of Bannatyne last night. 'this is pathetic'. Couldn't help thinking they were, though, like something primary school kids could/would do in an afternoon with some coloured cardboard, paper, glue and glitter..and do a better job.

The woman and Bannatyne always comes across as rude when saying 'I'm out'. They could at least be pleasant. The woman always appears strawberry floated off. 'blah blah, and for that reason, I'm out'. Really, notice it next time, because it's everytime. Jones is at least sympathetic. Him and Theo are the only ones I like on there now. It needs a shake up next time. I don't think Bannatyne will be there next time, but then I've always thought that.

Talking of inventions/products the dragons were bemused by, I thought the egg toaster was genius. I can't believe they didn't think there was a market for it. The thread on rllmuk at the time, there were people not getting it either, so, I dunno. I'd like one anyway. 'it solves a problem that doesn't exist'...indeed, or perhaps offers an alternative. Like...the toaster!

Farliey, wasn't he the ozzy? he was the shiznik!

I use to like it when they would hear out crazy ideas and invest if there was a sound business idea, look at reggae reggae sauce, Levi roots knew strawberry float all about the business side of it, and in all fairness he is not going to get rich selling a sauce that you may buy once or twice and use rarely.

It doesn't help when a lot of the entrupaneurs are strawberry floating idiots half the time, take the one from the recent episode, the indian lady, even i know what she was trying to do was against the law, (she was trying to move a company with loads of debt into another of hers.)

Evan davis is a real banana split on the show nowadays, he is always spoiling it "And theo is ready to declaire that he is out."

Richard Farleigh was fired because he invested in too many things.

Herb wrote:

Alvin Flummux wrote:Well things like that do need to be sturdy.

There's a difference between sturdy and being destructible.

I'm outraged that these budding 'entrepreneurs' don't call them up on some of the blatant gooseberry fool these Dragons talk as an excuse not to invest, why they can't just say I'm not interested is beyond me. Theo 'I must break everything' Paphitis is probably the biggest cock of them all. That man brought in a perfectly reasonable invention for a little shelf that clipped onto plug sockets to hold chargeable devices e.g. razor/electric toothbrush/mobile etc. So what does Theo come and do to weasel out of an investment, walks up to this example of the invention, puts his hand on it and pushes down with several pounds worth of force and surprise, surprise the thing breaks. WHAT THE strawberry float THEO YOU banana split. It's designed to hold small electrical devices, not human beings, I could walk up to my television and kick it of its stand and in all likelihood it would break, this doesn't mean that it's not a good invention, just that it's not indestructible. He did the same with that suitcase that children could ride, but that was more annoying because the sizable bulk that is Peter Jones even sat on that while the inventor easily pulled him around as proof that it worked. That wasn't good enough for Theo as he got hold of one and pulled off the strap that was used to pull the suitcase (using clearly a lot of force to do so). Like last night, this led to all the other Dragons dropping out.

At least think of a valid reason to not invest, don't just break the peoples prototypes and then use that as an excuse.

Wankers, the lot of them.

We should go into Partners and pick up pens, rulers, calculators etc. examine them closely and then snap them, loudly declare "This pen is dangerous, and that's why, I'm out". Then stride out of the shop.

Shadow wrote:

Herb wrote:

Alvin Flummux wrote:Well things like that do need to be sturdy.

There's a difference between sturdy and being destructible.

I'm outraged that these budding 'entrepreneurs' don't call them up on some of the blatant **** these Dragons talk as an excuse not to invest, why they can't just say I'm not interested is beyond me. Theo 'I must break everything' Paphitis is probably the biggest **** of them all. That man brought in a perfectly reasonable invention for a little shelf that clipped onto plug sockets to hold chargeable devices e.g. razor/electric toothbrush/mobile etc. So what does Theo come and do to weasel out of an investment, walks up to this example of the invention, puts his hand on it and pushes down with several pounds worth of force and surprise, surprise the thing breaks. WHAT THE **** THEO YOU ****. It's designed to hold small electrical devices, not human beings, I could walk up to my television and kick it of its stand and in all likelihood it would break, this doesn't mean that it's not a good invention, just that it's not indestructible. He did the same with that suitcase that children could ride, but that was more annoying because the sizable bulk that is Peter Jones even sat on that while the inventor easily pulled him around as proof that it worked. That wasn't good enough for Theo as he got hold of one and pulled off the strap that was used to pull the suitcase (using clearly a lot of force to do so). Like last night, this led to all the other Dragons dropping out.

At least think of a valid reason to not invest, don't just break the peoples prototypes and then use that as an excuse.

*******, the lot of them.

We should go into Partners and pick up pens, rulers, calculators etc. examine them closely and then snap them, loudly declare "This pen is dangerous, and that's why, I'm out". Then stride out of the shop.

Paphitis was being a cretin in that ep. A shaver would have been able to fit on the shelf.

Memento Mori wrote:Richard Farleigh was fired because he invested in too many things.

Well that's more than he knows. I read an interview and he had no idea why. But I did suspect that. If that's a bad thing, investing in things on a show where you're there to invest in things.

One thing they always cut away from is the dragons talking about someone who's just left the den after getting a deal, or leaving without one. That moment when they all look at eachother. Sometimes they'll be a few words between them, but I'm always interested in how they'll discuss with eachother when they don't have to be so competitive and professional. But they cut it out. Not that I'd want to sit there for 10 minutes listening to it, but a few words each time wouldn't hurt.

reactant mob driven wrote:

Memento Mori wrote:Richard Farleigh was fired because he invested in too many things.

Well that's more than he knows. I read an interview and he had no idea why. But I did suspect that. If that's a bad thing, investing in things on a show where you're there to invest in things.

One thing they always cut away from is the dragons talking about someone who's just left the den after getting a deal, or leaving without one. That moment when they all look at eachother. Sometimes they'll be a few words between them, but I'm always interested in how they'll discuss with eachother when they don't have to be so competitive and professional. But they cut it out. Not that I'd want to sit there for 10 minutes listening to it, but a few words each time wouldn't hurt.

He said on The Wright Stuff he was fired for being too nice.

What night is this on guize?

Prototype wrote:What night is this on guize?

New ep is mondays at 9. The repeat of monday's ep is sunday at 7.

Does anyone remember the ep from last series where some guy came in with a mat and scrub formula that went in the shower to help you exfoliate/wash your feet. I saw it on Dave the other day and the dragons reaction was absolutely ludicrous, Theo claiming that it's easy to wash your feet in the shower, to prove this he had Peter Jones stand up and pretend to wash his feet

The guy's pitch totally fell down because of this which pissed me off no end, I'm not tall and even I find washing my feet properly in the shower a challenge. Lifting one foot up to scrub it is pretty dangerous with a slippery wet floor, so I usually have to resort to sitting down and giving them a good scrub. It was a perfectly legitimate invention yet this guy was laughed out of the den like he was some kind of nut job.