Dredd 2012 (Movie)

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by Buffalo » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:11 pm

I personally hope that they make a 2nd movie. I wasn't overly enamoured with the 1st film but the potential is pretty huge - awesome universe.

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by Skippy » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:42 pm

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Death's Head wrote:This probably means there won't be a sequel - cost £32 million, made only £23 million oh crap

I don't think that includes Blu-ray sales though, just box office.


If DVD sales led to a Firefly film then there's no reason a Dredd sequel couldn't happen

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by Death's Head » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:55 pm

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Death's Head wrote:This probably means there won't be a sequel - cost £32 million, made only £23 million oh crap

I don't think that includes Blu-ray sales though, just box office.


If DVD sales led to a Firefly film then there's no reason a Dredd sequel couldn't happen

The question is, how many DVDs and Blurays do you need to sell to make £9 million (once the production costs have been recovered)? I think it will probably be lucky if Dredd breaks even. They should have toned it down a little so it could have got a 15 or even 12 rating.

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by Cosmo » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:33 pm

Death's Head wrote:They should have toned it down a little so it could have got a 15 or even 12 rating.


You know what you get when that happens? Stallone playing Dredd, that's what.

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by Skippy » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:35 pm

Death's Head wrote:
Skippy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Death's Head wrote:This probably means there won't be a sequel - cost £32 million, made only £23 million oh crap

I don't think that includes Blu-ray sales though, just box office.


If DVD sales led to a Firefly film then there's no reason a Dredd sequel couldn't happen

The question is, how many DVDs and Blurays do you need to sell to make £9 million (once the production costs have been recovered)? I think it will probably be lucky if Dredd breaks even. They should have toned it down a little so it could have got a 15 or even 12 rating.


I agree. A 15 though, not a 12. A 15 could still have been adequately violent. Those fanboys love their hyper-violence too much though

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by Death's Head » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:55 pm

Anung wrote:
Skippy wrote:
Death's Head wrote:
Skippy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Death's Head wrote:This probably means there won't be a sequel - cost £32 million, made only £23 million oh crap

I don't think that includes Blu-ray sales though, just box office.


If DVD sales led to a Firefly film then there's no reason a Dredd sequel couldn't happen

The question is, how many DVDs and Blurays do you need to sell to make £9 million (once the production costs have been recovered)? I think it will probably be lucky if Dredd breaks even. They should have toned it down a little so it could have got a 15 or even 12 rating.


I agree. A 15 though, not a 12. A 15 could still have been adequately violent. Those fanboys love their hyper-violence too much though


strawberry float that. I'm sick of films pandering to younger audiences. I'm an adult who wants to see adult movies aimed at me.

Films aimed at adults don't need to be 18 rated. How old are you? I wouldn't have thought any adults would dismiss a non 18 film as something that panders to a younger audience. 18 just means it contains material not suitable for an under 18 audience, not that it has a mature story or theme.

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by Death's Head » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:34 pm

The thing is though, Dredd comes from 2000AD which isn't bought by just adults. It is therefore a little ridiculous that some of the people who buy and read the comic are unable to watch the film.
As an example, I wanted to take my son to see this and as a result, had to wait for the Bluray release instead. How many other people would have seen this at the cinema given the chance?

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by Skippy » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:34 pm

Nothing wrong with an 18 rated film but in the case of this Dredd, which was unlikely to be a smash hit, I think they made a mistake narrowing their audience like that when they still could have been violent and adult with a 15 rating

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by FatDaz » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:57 am

Yippee kiyay mother fu...<bang> ... er

That's what happens when you lower your rating.

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by Lagamorph » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:47 am

Completely disagree that Dredd should have been toned down to get a 15 certificate. It might have found a wider audience but the film would most definitely have suffered for it.

I'd rather have one kick-ass Dredd film than several lacklustre 'youth-friendly' films.


It wasn't the 18 certificate that ruined the box office for Dredd, it was the distributors insistance on pushing 3D and actually refusing to provide 2D copies to many of the cinemas that requested it.

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by chalkitdown » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:40 pm

Weren't the original three Die Hards 15's? They were plenty violent and sweary. I think the movie would still have worked as a 15 with minimal cuts.

The problem is America and the ridiculous situation where there's no rating between R and PG13. More than one strawberry float and it's an automatic R on the MPAA's backwards scale.

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by Memento Mori » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:45 pm

Die Hard is an 18.

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by Cosmo » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:46 pm

The original Die Hard is an 18.

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by chalkitdown » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:56 pm

What about 3? I could've sworn that was a 15.

Regardless, the point still stands. Wasn't Watchmen somehow a 15? And that was super violent.

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by kommissarboris » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:14 pm

Death's Head wrote:The thing is though, Dredd comes from 2000AD which isn't bought by just adults. It is therefore a little ridiculous that some of the people who buy and read the comic are unable to watch the film.
As an example, I wanted to take my son to see this and as a result, had to wait for the Bluray release instead. How many other people would have seen this at the cinema given the chance?


2000AD's biggest audience are adults though, the same strawberry floats who bought it in the 80's are still buying it now, I didn't start until the early 90's, and always enjoyed the progs because they were cheaper than the Marvel and DC jobs, and always felt like they weren't for kids if you know what I mean, they were as standard more violent comics I found and reading them now they have a really dark tone to some of them.

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by Memento Mori » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:14 pm

chalkitdown wrote:What about 3? I could've sworn that was a 15.

Regardless, the point still stands. Wasn't Watchmen somehow a 15? And that was super violent.


3 was a 15 yeah but Watchmen was 18.

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by Irene Demova » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:40 pm

Death's Head wrote:The question is, how many DVDs and Blurays do you need to sell to make £9 million (once the production costs have been recovered)? I think it will probably be lucky if Dredd breaks even. They should have toned it down a little so it could have got a 15 or even 12 rating.

Nah, what enamored me so much to Dredd was that it was brutal instead of being another case of 12A: "Mild Peril" which is hampering so many modern action films. I'm not saying a film should be violent for the sake of it, however if you're going to tell a story like Dredd's in a world like Dredd's then having a bunch of cutaways and offscreen deaths doesn't really seem appropriate.

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by Gandalf » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:11 pm

If you want to see a 'mild peril' (and when I meant mild peril, I meant gooseberry fool) version of Judge Dredd, watch the Stallone version. :lol:

Sandra Bullock tries not to swear throughout the whole film (due to bad language restrictions/ fines) only to swear near the end.... :fp:

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by chalkitdown » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:29 pm

Memento Mori wrote:
chalkitdown wrote:What about 3? I could've sworn that was a 15.

Regardless, the point still stands. Wasn't Watchmen somehow a 15? And that was super violent.


3 was a 15 yeah but Watchmen was 18.



I'm thinking of the Irish rating. I remember there being a huge furore about it at the time. How on earth it didn't get an 18 is beyond me.

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PostRe: Dredd 2012 (Movie)
by Lagamorph » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:46 pm

Gandalf wrote:If you want to see a 'mild peril' (and when I meant mild peril, I meant gooseberry fool) version of Judge Dredd, watch the Stallone version. :lol:

Sandra Bullock tries not to swear throughout the whole film (due to bad language restrictions/ fines) only to swear near the end.... :fp:

Sandra Bullock wasn't in Judge Dredd. You're thinking of Demolition Man.

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