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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo (p4)
by Rog » Sat May 02, 2015 6:39 am

Peter Crisp wrote:
Rog wrote:
Photek wrote:
Rog wrote:And it only took 4 Titan Xs :lol:

Could 4 Titans do that without Direct X12? Honest question.


No idea. 4 Titan SLI is not a realistic setup.


Yep, showing stuff running on a system like that is about as pointless as showing of games for the Next Xbox system and then saying it's not out until 2020. Sure you can get that sort of graphics but how many people are willing to spend a couple of grand on a games system?


My PC was a couple of grand. The one they used is easily worth 6k.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo & Multiadapter (use every GPU simultaneously) (p4)
by Peter Crisp » Sat May 02, 2015 12:31 pm

Are the Titans still over £500 each?

How much better is a £6k machine over your £2k machine as the increase in performance used to drop quite a bit as the price got into the realm of stupid.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo & Multiadapter (use every GPU simultaneously) (p4)
by Rog » Sat May 02, 2015 12:34 pm

A Titan X will set you back £850-£900.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo & Multiadapter (use every GPU simultaneously) (p4)
by Peter Crisp » Sat May 02, 2015 12:37 pm

Rog wrote:A Titan X will set you back £850-£900.


I'd love to see how many of those they sell a year as surely that's not worth looking at for a games machine.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo & Multiadapter (use every GPU simultaneously) (p4)
by NickSCFC » Sat May 02, 2015 12:57 pm

Isn't Titan X more for CG animators than games at the moment?

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo (p4)
by HSH28 » Sat May 02, 2015 1:06 pm

Rog wrote:My PC was a couple of grand. The one they used is easily worth 6k.


Just done a bit of a calculation, you can probably put together a similarly spec'd PC for around 5k.

Still a ridiculous PC.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo (p4)
by Rog » Sat May 02, 2015 1:09 pm

HSH28 wrote:
Rog wrote:My PC was a couple of grand. The one they used is easily worth 6k.


Just done a bit of a calculation, you can probably put together a similarly spec'd PC for around 5k.

Still a ridiculous PC.


:lol:

You can also get one for free if you steal all the parts.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo (p4)
by Monkey Man » Sat May 02, 2015 1:29 pm

Photek wrote:
Rog wrote:And it only took 4 Titan Xs :lol:

Could 4 Titans do that without Direct X12? Honest question.

They mentioned in the video "the game generated 63 million polygons at the same time. This is about 6 to 12 times as many as a game running on DirectX 11."

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo (p4)
by HSH28 » Sat May 02, 2015 1:37 pm

Rog wrote:
HSH28 wrote:
Rog wrote:My PC was a couple of grand. The one they used is easily worth 6k.


Just done a bit of a calculation, you can probably put together a similarly spec'd PC for around 5k.

Still a ridiculous PC.


:lol:

You can also get one for free if you steal all the parts.


Umm, yeah. But getting the best deals and stealing aren't the same thing.

Not that I'm suggesting there are people out there that would be horrified at a £6k PC but think that £5,000 is reasonable.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo & Multiadapter (use every GPU simultaneously) (p4)
by Monkey Man » Sat May 02, 2015 1:55 pm


In 6 weeks by 2 engineers, Snail Games completed porting King of Wushu from DirectX 11 to DirectX 12, making it the first game from China adopting DirectX12.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo (p4)
by Rog » Sat May 02, 2015 1:56 pm

HSH28 wrote:
Rog wrote:
HSH28 wrote:
Rog wrote:My PC was a couple of grand. The one they used is easily worth 6k.


Just done a bit of a calculation, you can probably put together a similarly spec'd PC for around 5k.

Still a ridiculous PC.


:lol:

You can also get one for free if you steal all the parts.


Umm, yeah. But getting the best deals and stealing aren't the same thing.

Not that I'm suggesting there are people out there that would be horrified at a £6k PC but think that £5,000 is reasonable.


Look at the PC they are using in the video. 6k is me being reserved. That actual Digital Storm build looks around £7.8k and just to get similar-ish specs in the UK without the crazy cooling they had going on you're looking at around £7.3k.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo (p4)
by Moggy » Sat May 02, 2015 3:00 pm

Rog wrote:
HSH28 wrote:
Rog wrote:
HSH28 wrote:
Rog wrote:My PC was a couple of grand. The one they used is easily worth 6k.


Just done a bit of a calculation, you can probably put together a similarly spec'd PC for around 5k.

Still a ridiculous PC.


:lol:

You can also get one for free if you steal all the parts.


Umm, yeah. But getting the best deals and stealing aren't the same thing.

Not that I'm suggesting there are people out there that would be horrified at a £6k PC but think that £5,000 is reasonable.


Look at the PC they are using in the video. 6k is me being reserved. That actual Digital Storm build looks around £7.8k and just to get similar-ish specs in the UK without the crazy cooling they had going on you're looking at around £7.3k.


So you agree that we should just steal all of the parts?

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo & Multiadapter (use every GPU simultaneously) (p4)
by Rog » Sat May 02, 2015 3:03 pm

Yeah, go crazy but grab two of each.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo & Multiadapter (use every GPU simultaneously) (p4)
by Moggy » Sat May 02, 2015 3:50 pm

One set for me, one set to EBay. :datass: Thanks Rog. :wub:

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo (p4)
by HSH28 » Sat May 02, 2015 6:31 pm

Rog wrote:Look at the PC they are using in the video. 6k is me being reserved. That actual Digital Storm build looks around £7.8k and just to get similar-ish specs in the UK without the crazy cooling they had going on you're looking at around £7.3k.


Like I said, I did a little tot up of the parts they showed and I think you could probably build something like that (or of a similar power) for around £5k. The graphics cards and the CPU are the main outlay after that the rest of the components aren't massively expensive, even if the water cooling system is similarly expensive you are still looking at well under £6k if you build it yourself.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo (p4)
by Rog » Sat May 02, 2015 6:52 pm

HSH28 wrote:
Rog wrote:Look at the PC they are using in the video. 6k is me being reserved. That actual Digital Storm build looks around £7.8k and just to get similar-ish specs in the UK without the crazy cooling they had going on you're looking at around £7.3k.


Like I said, I did a little tot up of the parts they showed and I think you could probably build something like that (or of a similar power) for around £5k. The graphics cards and the CPU are the main outlay after that the rest of the components aren't massively expensive, even if the water cooling system is similarly expensive you are still looking at well under £6k if you build it yourself.


To get it down to that price you would have to compromise so much that it doesn't come anywhere near close to being similar.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo (p4)
by HSH28 » Sat May 02, 2015 10:07 pm

Rog wrote:
HSH28 wrote:
Rog wrote:Look at the PC they are using in the video. 6k is me being reserved. That actual Digital Storm build looks around £7.8k and just to get similar-ish specs in the UK without the crazy cooling they had going on you're looking at around £7.3k.


Like I said, I did a little tot up of the parts they showed and I think you could probably build something like that (or of a similar power) for around £5k. The graphics cards and the CPU are the main outlay after that the rest of the components aren't massively expensive, even if the water cooling system is similarly expensive you are still looking at well under £6k if you build it yourself.


To get it down to that price you would have to compromise so much that it doesn't come anywhere near close to being similar.


What do you think you'd have to compromise on. This is with the 4 Titan X's (4x£850) the i7-5960X (£835), Asus X99 Extreme motherboard (£350) and 16GB DDR4 RAM (£330) add in a PSU and case for a few hundred then you've only got the cooling system and a HDD to purchase for presumably another few hundred. That's a similar spec'd PC for somewhere in the £5.5k range without really compromising on anything unless you can point out what I'm missing.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo (p4)
by Rog » Sat May 02, 2015 11:07 pm

HSH28 wrote:
Rog wrote:
HSH28 wrote:
Rog wrote:Look at the PC they are using in the video. 6k is me being reserved. That actual Digital Storm build looks around £7.8k and just to get similar-ish specs in the UK without the crazy cooling they had going on you're looking at around £7.3k.


Like I said, I did a little tot up of the parts they showed and I think you could probably build something like that (or of a similar power) for around £5k. The graphics cards and the CPU are the main outlay after that the rest of the components aren't massively expensive, even if the water cooling system is similarly expensive you are still looking at well under £6k if you build it yourself.


To get it down to that price you would have to compromise so much that it doesn't come anywhere near close to being similar.


What do you think you'd have to compromise on. This is with the 4 Titan X's (4x£850) the i7-5960X (£835), Asus X99 Extreme motherboard (£350) and 16GB DDR4 RAM (£330) add in a PSU and case for a few hundred then you've only got the cooling system and a HDD to purchase for presumably another few hundred. That's a similar spec'd PC for somewhere in the £5.5k range without really compromising on anything unless you can point out what I'm missing.


I don't think they ran with 64gb of ram for fun. They might not be using all of it but I would say with 16 you are lowballing too much. That bumps the cost right up. You're going to want a beefy PSU there too, 4 Titan Xs and an overclocked 5960x, you're going to need at least 1500w. At least one SSD will be needed, you can't really afford a bottleneck anywhere or the 4 way is going to waste. Case has to be good as cooling is important with all those cards.

4x Titan X (£890x4 You want EVGA)
5960x (£835)
32GB DDR4 (£500 but wouldn't be surprised with what was shown if it required over that. The 64GB kit they used is £1200!)
Mobo (£350)
PSU (£250 for a cheap one)
SSD (£230)
Case (£200)
CPU Cooler (£90)
HDD (£80)
Sound Card (£50)
Optical Drive (£30)


That is that done cheap but if you are spending that and aiming to emulate what they had it would cost a lot more as you would want the 64GB ram, probably another SSD in raid, the workstation version of the mobo, superclocked versions of the cards, much better sound and to improve the cooling.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo & Multiadapter (use every GPU simultaneously) (p4)
by HSH28 » Sat May 02, 2015 11:21 pm

There's no need for an optical drive or a sound card really, you don't really gain anything by spending £230 on an SSD and I'm sure you can pick up a 1500W PSU for under £200, and a perfectly fine case for under £100.

I wouldn't call these even compromises really, just a more sensible case of not spending more than you really need to for a machine of this spec.

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PostRe: DX12 Chat - Square Enix DX12 Demo & Multiadapter (use every GPU simultaneously) (p4)
by Monkey Man » Fri May 08, 2015 1:51 am

This was retweeted by the Official DirectX12 twitter account today -

twitter.com/thestarstrider/status/575782963817889793


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