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Which is probably exactly what Sony is afraid of.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens, really.

[iup=3519301]TheTurnipKing[/iup] wrote:Which is probably exactly what Sony is afraid of.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens, really.

In the meantime, bargain me up EA.

If successful, others will follow. The problem then becomes, how many subs does everyone want and further down the line, will subscriptions be the only way you will get to play certain publishers' games? :dread:

[iup=3519285]Rog[/iup] wrote:If more 3rd parties follow this model then we're strawberry floated. EA have taken a good model (netflix) and perverted subtly to suit their greed. Much like MS were going to take the steam model and twist it before people with sense made them revert it.
This is all setup to use old games, which would have been worthless to EA as they are an annual update driven company, to sell DLC and micro-transactions. BF4 has premium, which is almost mandatory at this point in it's life cycle, and the sports games are riddled with micro-transactions. That is where the money is for EA with this.
People get hooked on that stuff easily and that is what EA are counting on. There are sensible people like most here that will use it to save money and that is fair play but a large number will pour stupid amounts of money into the micro-transactions. So these games that are getting past their time will still be bringing in cash due to the new audience. This model takes off and more companies want to copy it? They start putting more and more micro-transactions into their games just to get money from the subscribers. Eventually games are running on a F2P-type model with nickel and diming everywhere but you're also paying a subscription as well which is even worse than straight F2P.
Also it gets in the DRM they wanted with Xbone to start with. Plan A was abandoned so this is plan B.

Might seem good in the short term but in the long term it's a bad idea. I hope it fails.

Yeah, that's the doomsday scenario, and considering the warm reception it's entirely possible that EA Access is successful resulting in other companies jump on board, depleting the games available for Games with Gold and PS+. We shall see, it could be like the WWE Network where there was a lot of positive words and not a lot of people actually paying up to cover the loss (although as you say, the games in the Vault are now kinda worthless to EA and it's not like they're going to be including their crown jewels in the subscription, unlike the WWE Network).

[iup=3519304]Death's Head[/iup] wrote:If successful, others will follow. The problem then becomes, how many subs does everyone want and further down the line, will subscriptions be the only way you will get to play certain publishers' games?

Exactly.

That would be mega gooseberry fool, be interesting to see how it all turns out.

[iup=3519304]Death's Head[/iup] wrote:If successful, others will follow. The problem then becomes, how many subs does everyone want and further down the line, will subscriptions be the only way you will get to play certain publishers' games?

I don't see it as a problem.

Removing my opportunities to play certain games by limiting them to certain systems just makes my choices simpler.

I already don't play exclusives to Sony systems because I don't own the hardware.

No need for Xbox Gold either, which is a bonus.

Without new games I don't see the appeal. Casuals won't subscribe, and anyone who really wants to play FIFA 14 will be getting it at launch before it becomes hopelessly out of date.

[iup=3519322]KKLEIN[/iup] wrote:No need for Xbox Gold either, which is a bonus.

I buy FIFA every year. I play it more than enough to warrant its purchase. This EA access thing is brilliant. Although I keep up with NFL, I'm ok playing a year old version of the game, same with NHL and NBA. The UFC game can go suck a dick but yeah, ill happily play Dragon Age inquisition in late 2015.

[iup=3519327]captain red dog[/iup] wrote:Without new games I don't see the appeal. Casuals won't subscribe, and anyone who really wants to play FIFA 14 will be getting it at launch before it becomes hopelessly out of date.

Why won't casuals buy it?

I point blank refuse to pay a subscription fee to play any game, EA can strawberry float right off.

[iup=3519050]Photek[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3519045]TheTurnipKing[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3518908]Hime[/iup] wrote:Sounds like a great deal but you have to be a little skeptical when it's cheaper than Battlefield Premium.

Good to see that PS Plus is starting to influence ~~developers~~ publishers.

FTFY

[iup=3518974]Photek[/iup] wrote:The usual suspects dissing it. Like clockwork. Hilarious.

Yes, because being sceptical of EA's business practices is entirely unreasonable

Bitch Please.

Dave DS reckons it gonna be a 'Flop' and Deludi has only looked at the negative side 'No more EA Games with Gold for Xbox Live, 'When it comes on PS4 (despite no evidence of this)'.

All we need is Nick in here to spin it in a bad way and the holy trinity is complete.

Cut the fanboy bullshit. Just because your opinion differs from mine doesn't mean you can label me in a certain bracket. Especially since everything I've ever said about the xbone hardware and dx12, which I assume is what you're on about, has either be proven entirely correct or had later been reiterated by actual developers, or Spencer himself. Grow up.

[iup=3519309]TheTurnipKing[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3519304]Death's Head[/iup] wrote:If successful, others will follow. The problem then becomes, how many subs does everyone want and further down the line, will subscriptions be the only way you will get to play certain publishers' games?

I don't see it as a problem.

Removing my opportunities to play certain games by limiting them to certain systems just makes my choices simpler.

I already don't play exclusives to Sony systems because I don't own the hardware.

That isn't what I meant at all. My concern is that we end up with a situation where the only way to play the games is through subscriptions, literally you can't buy the game outright (either physically or digitally) but can only subscribe to play it. We then end up with a situation where there are say 5 publishers left and you need to subscribe to all 5 services if you want the opportunity to play just one of their games.

This is simple for me, I just don't trust EA. With some of the bullshit they have pulled this is simply a propaganda play for long term goal.

EA are evil. To naively praise this as a good thing universally is odd, they are setting us up and it will take time for their strategy to be revealed. This will not end well for gamers.

Yeah, I'm a bit hesitant to believe that there's nothing bad about this service either with EA's track record. Very much a wait see approach imo.

The strategy is already pretty obvious. DLC, micro-transactions and DRM.

It is a trojan horse and unfortunately there are people falling over themselves to get it.

If the worst happens and it turns to gooseberry fool in the future I'd simply unsubscribe, but as it is now it seems fair enough to me.

[iup=3519431]Rog[/iup] wrote:The strategy is already pretty obvious. DLC, micro-transactions and DRM.

It is a trojan horse and unfortunately there are people falling over themselves to get it.

Why unfortunately? It's not like EA are forcing people to subscribe to this. There's still going to be the option to buy old school for people that want to do that. It's just a different option.

Genuinely don't understand how people can be negative about this.

[iup=3519443]Garth[/iup] wrote:If the worst happens and it turns to gooseberry fool in the future I'd simply unsubscribe, but as it is now it seems fair enough to me.

The damage will have already been done. This is what a trojan horse is.

[iup=3519418]Death's Head[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3519309]TheTurnipKing[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3519304]Death's Head[/iup] wrote:If successful, others will follow. The problem then becomes, how many subs does everyone want and further down the line, will subscriptions be the only way you will get to play certain publishers' games?

I don't see it as a problem.

Removing my opportunities to play certain games by limiting them to certain systems just makes my choices simpler.

I already don't play exclusives to Sony systems because I don't own the hardware.

That isn't what I meant at all. My concern is that we end up with a situation where the only way to play the games is through subscriptions, literally you can't buy the game outright (either physically or digitally) but can only subscribe to play it. We then end up with a situation where there are say 5 publishers left and you need to subscribe to all 5 services if you want the opportunity to play just one of their games.

Well, it's pretty much the direction all AAA publishers would like to head.

It's a businessman's wet dream: Sell absolutely nothing for a premium price.

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