Election Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside!

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Who did you vote for?

UKIP (or DUP)
1
1%
Conservatives (inc. Ulster Unionists)
15
11%
Liberal Democrats (inc. Alliance)
19
15%
Labour (inc. Social Democrats)
85
65%
SNP/Plaid Cymru (or Sinn Féin)
7
5%
Green
2
2%
Other
2
2%
 
Total votes: 131
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PostElection Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside!
by That » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:46 am

This thread is for election day discussion.

Why a new thread? Because I want to do a new poll and compare it to the voting intention poll. I don't know if it'll be much different, but it'll be interesting to see if anyone here changed their minds during the campaign.

Isn't this technically an exit poll? Maybe! Which is why the results will be totally hidden until 10pm. (Seriously, try it!)

Those poll choices are a bit weird! Are you sure you understand Northern Irish politics, Karl? Maybe you were dropped on the head as a baby? I just wanted to arrange the parties on a broad left/right spectrum, and collapse in Northern Irish parties to their closest Great Britain equivalent. This way we'll get a nice bell curve, probably! I know it's not perfect (particularly, I'm aware DUP and Sinn Féin don't fit in very well). Please don't be mad at me. :(

What should we talk about? Feel free to just continue to discuss national politics, or chat about your election day experience & who you voted for. Also, the next post contains a summary of the final opinion polls for anyone interested.

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PostRe: Election Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside!
by That » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:46 am

Only unspoil this post if you like amateur data analysis from some idiot with no actual politics experience!

Hey Karl, what do the final opinion polls say?

Here is what the campaign looked like! Note the Labour surge, the Lib Dem not-much-changing, and the UKIP collapse.

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Largely because of the UKIP collapse feeding Labour votes, Britain went from being slightly predominantly right-wing to being slightly predominantly progressive.

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So what will the result be?

Here is my poll-of-polls, using every recent poll I could find listed on Wikipedia.

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42% CON 36% LAB would give a lead of 6%.

Just for my own amusement, here is a very very simple model, 'trained' (it's just a line of best fit...) on all the polls so far I had access to.

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It predicts 41-45% CON 36-40% LAB, giving a range of leads of 1-9%. It thinks the most likely outcome is 43% CON 38% LAB which is a 5% lead.

Hold up. Who are Qriously and why are they predicting a Labour victory?!

They use a weird methodology which correctly predicted Trump, Brexit, and other recent close-run races. They aren't a scam, but they also aren't members of the British Polling Council, and their result is unique and very strange compared to the rest of the data. Take it with a pinch of salt.

How does this translate into seats, though?

Beats me! But smarter folks have done seat predictions. And I collated them!

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From this averaging-out of those models listed, it looks like the Conservatives will get 351 seats, which is +21 on their performance in 2015 and a majority of 25.

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by Green Gecko » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:49 am

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PostRe: Election Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside!
by That » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:05 am

:lol:

Anyway, to kick-start this thread -- the big upset of this evening has been that Qriously, a small but increasingly-well-respected 'indie' pollster, has come out for Labour:

twitter.com/WiredUK/status/872575140793643008



They predict LAB 41% CON 39%.

Could this be Labour peaking at exactly the right time? I doubt it, but the margins of error on opinion polls are so large that anything is possible. I don't think it's likely, but there's certainly a small chance that this is the 'correct' poll and the others are all just wrong.

Qriously have been correct in the past, but don't put too much stock in them: it's still more likely that every other poll is right than they are. It's worth remarking that they are not members of the British Polling Council, and their methodology is considered esoteric.

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PostRe: Election Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside! [GO OUT AND VOTE 7AM-10PM]
by Errkal » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:35 am

It actually shaping up to be a really interesting election, the fact it is super short will probably help turn out too as it wont have dragged on for ages making people sick of it.

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PostRe: Election Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside! [GO OUT AND VOTE 7AM-10PM]
by Moggy » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:10 am

I have been staunchly Lib Dem since the election was called, but am undecided this morning.

It's a tough choice as I prefer the Lib Dems as a party, but prefer my Labour candidate as a choice of MP.

I'll be voting on the way to work so have just over 50 minutes to decide!

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PostRe: Election Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside! [GO OUT AND VOTE 7AM-10PM]
by Grumpy David » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:18 am

Voting Conservative. Haven't done that in a while.

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by Benzin » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:29 am

Is anyone really expecting anything other than a Conservative win?

I'd be shocked if we ended up with a hung parliament, and probably collapse if Labour actually won out...

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by Cuttooth » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:35 am

strawberry float sake you can't give me a random final poll that says Labour are going to do it. Don't give me hope!

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PostRe: Election Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside! [GO OUT AND VOTE 7AM-10PM]
by Errkal » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:44 am

Grumpy David wrote:Voting Conservative. Haven't done that in a while.

Honestly don't know how anyone can vote for her or that manifesto of vapour. She promised nothing to most and misery to those without.
Honest question, how and why did you decide the conservatives where the right choice?

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by Rex Kramer » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:49 am

I'm very much wavering this morning too. I'm a Lib Dem party member but they have absolutely no chance in my constituency so do I tactically vote Labour (the current Tory majority isn't that large, Labour have taken the seat in the past) or do I stick to my principles and vote Lib Dem? It obviously won't come down to a single vote (it's not some kind of rubber button). I also almost don't mind my local Tory as she obviously doesn't get on with May (after being booted from the position of business secretary) and is overtly in favour of remaining in the single market.

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PostRe: Election Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside! [GO OUT AND VOTE 7AM-10PM]
by Moggy » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:52 am

Benzin wrote:Is anyone really expecting anything other than a Conservative win?

I'd be shocked if we ended up with a hung parliament, and probably collapse if Labour actually won out...


I fully expect a Tory victory, but am holding out hope that their majority will be small.

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PostRe: Election Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside! [GO OUT AND VOTE 7AM-10PM]
by Qikz » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:57 am

Please people. Please go out and vote tactically to get rid of the Tories somehow.

They're putting my Mum's health and home at risk by cutting the NHS and her disability benefits. I'm begging you to do anything but vote Tories. I know I shouldn't tell anyone else who to vote, but there are people dying or becoming increasingly ill due to all the cuts that they're making to the NHS and the police cuts have genuinly made the country a less safe place to live in. The police confirmed that the Tories (a party constantly going on about security) have been lying about Police/Crime numbers to make it seem better than it is.

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by NickSCFC » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:59 am

Errkal wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:Voting Conservative. Haven't done that in a while.

Honestly don't know how anyone can vote for her or that manifesto of vapour. She promised nothing to most and misery to those without.
Honest question, how and why did you decide the conservatives where the right choice?


That's the point, Labour want you to think most of us are "those without".

People with steady jobs and a decent income don't care about food banks, homelessness and "savage cuts", they don't affect the majority.

It's similar to Ed Miliband basing his campaign about 0 hour contracts, most people didn't care.

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PostRe: Election Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside! [GO OUT AND VOTE 7AM-10PM]
by Qikz » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:01 am

NickSCFC wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:Voting Conservative. Haven't done that in a while.

Honestly don't know how anyone can vote for her or that manifesto of vapour. She promised nothing to most and misery to those without.
Honest question, how and why did you decide the conservatives where the right choice?


That's the point, Labour want you to think most of us are "those without".

People with steady jobs and a decent income don't care about food banks, homelessness and "savage cuts", they don't affect the majority.


Why don't you care that people are suffering? God forbid you lose your job or your family member gets ill.

+ Most of the people who visit foodbanks actually have jobs. They can't afford food due to their severely low income due to austerity measures set in place by the Tory government.

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by NickSCFC » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:04 am

Qikz wrote:Why don't you care that people are suffering? God forbid you lose your job or your family member gets ill.


I do care, and living in Stoke I can see the benefits system is the root cause of a lot of these issues.

In Stoke we have vast council estates of families who have never worked a day in their lives, yet continue to breed like rats thanks to state handouts.

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PostRe: Election Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside! [GO OUT AND VOTE 7AM-10PM]
by Qikz » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:10 am

NickSCFC wrote:
Qikz wrote:Why don't you care that people are suffering? God forbid you lose your job or your family member gets ill.


I do care, and living in Stoke I can see the benefits system is the root cause of a lot of these issues.

In Stoke we have vast council estates of families who have never worked a day in their lives, yet continue to breed like rats thanks to state handouts.


So rather than vote to reform the benefit system, you'll vote for the conservatives who are going to cut benefits countrywide and cause the suffering of thousands, if not millions of people who ARE looking for work, but can't find a job.

Thank you so strawberry floating much Nick. You're a real saint.

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PostRe: Election Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside! [GO OUT AND VOTE 7AM-10PM]
by Moggy » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:16 am

Nick. :fp:

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PostRe: Election Day: Poll of polls & "Who did you vote for?" inside! [GO OUT AND VOTE 7AM-10PM]
by Moggy » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:17 am

I voted Labour in the end. Thangam is a decent MP and even though I don't like Corbyn, I will be happier to have him as PM than May.

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by Tineash » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:21 am

Pretty sure Thangam's a she, but never mind​...

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