Ever thought you were in the wrong career?

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PostEver thought you were in the wrong career?
by JayGo » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:50 pm

This guy probably should do:
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Christmas in July is an odd concept but one that’s very familiar to journalists. Due to the long leads of certain publications and the need to plan ahead, everything from food to toys gets an early run out.

That’s also true – happily – of the games industry. Even for pieces like this that are less planned ahead, more thrown together at the last minute, it’s a great opportunity to see what big studios are hoping we’ll all be playing when the nights start closing in. These events frequently run for hours and involve much beer and snacking and cakes and things. But that’s the sort of hell we put ourselves through for you, dear reader.

Last week, I got my (beery, cupcake-covered) mitts on some of THQ’s forthcoming output. First up was WWE Crackdown Vs Raw 2011. As the name suggests, this is the latest in a long line of World Wrestling Entertainment titles. Having not really played many, I’m not in a great position to comment: The idea of playing a simulation of something so simulated has always struck me as a bit too ironic.

Still, with a beer between the knees and the chance to beat the living crap out of a mate without actually drawing blood, the appeal is obvious. The difference here, I’m told, is the “dynamic, ever changing” gameplay, which seems to boil down to you can throw your opponent out of the ring and continue to beat the living crap out of him. There are also, I’m assured, more creative tools than ever before to customise your WWE Superstars, better story designs and finishing moves. It certainly looks the part, with very decent graphics, and the interactivity of what I saw – the ability to smack your opponent over the head with a ladder, chair, metal stairs or table or, indeed, to faceplant into the table – seemed impressive.

The early version gave access to four huge WWE names which were all probably wasted on me. There was some big evil bugger called Mr Death or The Undertaker or The Chief Mourner or something?

Anyway, the final game is going to have over 70 people I’ve never heard of but that you probably have. The finished version should be out late October…

More interesting, simply because the film looks like a cracker, was Megamind. THQ have recently signed up a huge licencing deal with Paramount and Dreamworks so are busy working on the game versions of films like the Kung-Fu Panda sequel. First up though – well, second up, after The Last Airbender which we’ll get to in due course – is Megamind.

Voiced by Will Ferrell, Brad Pitt and Jonah Hill, Megamind is a good looking computer animation about the titular supervillain – voiced by Ferrell – who spends his life pitted against superhero Metro Man (Pitt). And then he beats him but, instead of feeling triumphant, he just feels bored without a nemesis to fill his days and so creates Titan (Hill), a new superhero to battle with. One catch: Titan decides it’s a lot more fun being bad so he becomes the supervillain and Megamind has to save the world.

The game, as seems to be increasingly the case, is set after the film has finished. The city has been taken over by something called The Doom Syndicate and only Megamind can save the day. First though, he has to rebuild / find all the weaponry that Titan has stolen.

Again, while not finished, this looks like a pretty decent interpretation of the characters and the spirit of the game. The learning curve does appear to be rather juvenile but hey, it’s based on a family cartoon, so it’s probably only reasonable. Controls though feel instinctive, it looks like a cartoon, the way the character runs is oddly amusing – even after 15 minutes, it’s still amusing – and the restore function – there are no save points, you get revived pretty much where you died – is certainly family friendly.

It’s probably better than The Last Airbender, the unfortunately named new film / game from M Night Shyamalan. This Wii (and DS) title combines beat ‘em up and a bit of puzzle solving, as you run around, er, bending air. This basically translates to controlling air which, in retrospect, might have been a better title. Although, admittedly it wouldn’t have resulted in lines in the film such as “When did you first know you were a bender?” and that, given my juvenile level of humour, would have been a pity.

The other side of the room though was a game unlike anything I’ve ever seen before and one that could well lead to arguments and divorces aplenty. I think that one deserves a little post of its own…


I mean, really.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by Skippy » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:03 pm

Still better than me

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by rudderless » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:04 pm

Skippy wrote:Still better than me


:lol:

But no, he's not.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by Skippy » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:10 pm

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by KK » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:11 pm

He's even linked to a fake WWE trailer on his website.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by Atreyu » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:42 pm

What's so dreadful about his copy? It's not particularly inspired, but other than Yahtzee and Brooker, that applies to just about the whole genre. At least his prose flows reasonably well.

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by SEP » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:51 pm

Atreyu wrote:What's so dreadful about his copy? It's not particularly inspired, but other than Yahtzee and Brooker, that applies to just about the whole genre. At least his prose flows reasonably well.


The fact that he didn't even know the name of the game he was talking about doesn't help.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by JayGo » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:02 pm

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Atreyu wrote:What's so dreadful about his copy? It's not particularly inspired, but other than Yahtzee and Brooker, that applies to just about the whole genre. At least his prose flows reasonably well.


The fact that he didn't even know the name of the game he was talking about doesn't help.


What he said.

Also, other than the general type of game, tell me one thing you gathered about The Last Airbender from what he wrote.

Other than 'lol he sed airbender tats funny'.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by rudderless » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:32 pm

Atreyu wrote:What's so dreadful about his copy? It's not particularly inspired, but other than Yahtzee and Brooker, that applies to just about the whole genre.


That just shows your ignorance of "the whole genre".

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by Atreyu » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:40 pm

Well, that's me told.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by rudderless » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:46 pm

Dear sweet Lord, unless it's just another guy with the exact same name, he writes games reviews for The Guardian, too.

Today just gets more and more depressing by the minute.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by Atreyu » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:47 pm

Chin up, soldier.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by rudderless » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:04 pm

But it's increasingly obvious no-one cares any more. No-one cares about the quality of the coverage they're getting. Just rope in any old idiot who'll write about games for no money because they've got no self-esteem and a love for the medium.

For all that I hate every single thing I write, I know there are a lot of writers out there that I'm far better than. I read stuff on websites, magazines, newspapers that just makes me cringe. Yet I'm the one struggling to make a living out of writing about games.

People bang on and on about scores without reading the text. Writers churn out inflammatory pap just to get hits. Controversy and kowtowing to the fanboys are prized over nuance.

There are a number of sites and mags flying the flag for quality journalism, but they're dwarfed by the corporate shitpiles, and, more importantly, they don't have much money to pay good writers.

It's a huge strawberry floating mess, basically. It's an arena where the crap rather than the cream rises to the top.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by Atreyu » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:13 pm

But was there ever a golden age of high-paying games journalism? Journalism is known for being deeply competitive - there are very low barriers to entry, after all - and very poorly paid. You didn't go into it for the money. So if the pay's rubbish and you're not doing something you love, then it might be time to get out, or do something more radical. What happened to Press Start? At least there you guys seemed really to love what you were doing.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by rudderless » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:20 pm

Atreyu wrote:But was there ever a golden age of high-paying games journalism?


Yes. Spoke to a veteran journo (who's still doing it) recently, and he used to earn up to £500 per review.

Journalism is known for being deeply competitive - there are very low barriers to entry, after all - and very poorly paid.


Not necessarily true. The barriers have certainly been lowered since the advent of the internet - heck, one of the most popular gaming sites out there has, by my reckoning, one decent writer - but it's higher than you might think in some places, especially print.

You didn't go into it for the money. So if the pay's rubbish and you're not doing something you love, then it might be time to get out, or do something more radical. What happened to Press Start? At least there you guys seemed really to love what you were doing.


I loved doing Press Start, but when push came to "PUUUUUUSH", I had to make a decision, and ultimately I couldn't keep wasting my time on a site that wasn't paying. And a couple of years back I was earning good money from this, but now magazines are struggling and freelance budgets are being tightened, there's less to go around. I do still enjoy writing about games on the increasingly rare occasions I get to write about stuff I'm interested in.

And I am looking to get out. But unfortunately 'games journalist' still carries a bit of a stigma on the old CV.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by Atreyu » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:40 pm

rudderless wrote:
Atreyu wrote:But was there ever a golden age of high-paying games journalism?


Yes. Spoke to a veteran journo (who's still doing it) recently, and he used to earn up to £500 per review.

Journalism is known for being deeply competitive - there are very low barriers to entry, after all - and very poorly paid.

rudderless wrote:Not necessarily true. The barriers have certainly been lowered since the advent of the internet - heck, one of the most popular gaming sites out there has, by my reckoning, one decent writer - but it's higher than you might think in some places, especially print.

Perhaps I need to recalibrate my scale, as the starting salaries in (print) journalism when I were a lad were disgusting. What does "high-paying" look like in the print world, per annum?

rudderless wrote:I loved doing Press Start, but when push came to "PUUUUUUSH", I had to make a decision, and ultimately I couldn't keep wasting my time on a site that wasn't paying. And a couple of years back I was earning good money from this, but now magazines are struggling and freelance budgets are being tightened, there's less to go around. I do still enjoy writing about games on the increasingly rare occasions I get to write about stuff I'm interested in.

And I am looking to get out. But unfortunately 'games journalist' still carries a bit of a stigma on the old CV.

Sorry to hear that, mate. Perhaps reviving it in some form, though reduced, might be good for your mental health - you need a bit of fun in your life as a counterbalance to your responsibilities. Hang in there.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by rudderless » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:46 pm

Atreyu wrote:Perhaps I need to recalibrate my scale, as the starting salaries in (print) journalism when I were a lad were disgusting. What does "high-paying" look like in the print world, per annum?


In gaming, or just print in general? Admittedly, starting wages are awful, and even full-time staff writers working long hours don't earn an awful lot. But I was doing very decently as a freelancer up until fairly recently. Probably about a year ago that the downward spiral started, and through no fault of my own, the work started to dry up from some places.

Sorry to hear that, mate. Perhaps reviving it in some form, though reduced, might be good for your mental health - you need a bit of fun in your life as a counterbalance to your responsibilities. Hang in there.


I may do something like that in future. Depends where my career goes next, I guess.

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by Atreyu » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:51 pm

rudderless wrote:In gaming, or just print in general? Admittedly, starting wages are awful, and even full-time staff writers working long hours don't earn an awful lot. But I was doing very decently as a freelancer up until fairly recently. Probably about a year ago that the downward spiral started, and through no fault of my own, the work started to dry up from some places.

I was thinking print in general, really. I'd imagine that gaming counts as a bit of a niche.

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Sorry to hear that, mate. Perhaps reviving it in some form, though reduced, might be good for your mental health - you need a bit of fun in your life as a counterbalance to your responsibilities. Hang in there.


I may do something like that in future. Depends where my career goes next, I guess.

You guys seemed to be having a blast, and you certainly sounded happier then than you do now. Being in control of your own product is always going to be more empowering than dancing to someone else's tune. Anyway, hope you get a good hand from fate shortly.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by Sputnik » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:53 pm

Maybe a reviewer that sounds like he doesn't know much about games but likes to give his detailed impressions regardless, is actually attractive for some readers and could be a nice way to introduce some people to gaming, since you don't get the feeling that you missed out on an endless saga by not playing videogames from the very start.

If the average reader of the Guardian were to find an Edge-level review in the paper, chances are he wouldn't read past the first paragraph because he would feel overwhelmed by the detailed writing.

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PostRe: Ever thought you were in the wrong career?
by rudderless » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:56 pm

We were indeed a happy collective. I may have continued with Press Start were it not for an extraordinarily bad decision where we ignored the site for a few weeks to chase the possibility of a print version after a promise was made but then unfortunately not kept.

If I could find a decent site designer who could build a new home pretty quickly and cheaply, I'd do it tomorrow.

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