Exercise may not be helping you lose weight

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Fatal Exception » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:27 am

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencen ... story.html


And here's a study which shows that people aren't over eating, they're under exercising.

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by <]:^D » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:36 am

Massive problem right here

"The one caveat here is that the amount of calorie intake was based on self report, so it is possible people were not recalling correctly what they ate, or not reporting correctly," said Ladabaum.


There was an article that I saw recently (wish I knew the source) that suggests that people
1) Think they are of normal weight, when actually they're overweight
2) Healthy weight people are now considered underweight
3) People massively underestimate their own calorie intake.

I would take this study with a pinch of salt. Portion sizes are increasing, people are eating more processed food, and activity levels are decreasing. They're both problematic and both must be addressed to lose weight in a healthy manner.

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Fatal Exception » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:40 am

Most studies which rely on correlation rather than causation should be taken with a large portion of salt, but if there's one thing secret eaters has taught me, it's that fatties are liars who kid themselves.

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Poser » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:53 am

:lol: I'd forgotten about this thread. Gotta love that title.


Health tips, the GRcade way: eat Dominos and stop exercising. :lol: :fp:

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Irene Demova » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:29 am

[iup=3504036]Fatal Exception[/iup] wrote:http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-lack-of-exercise-linked-to-rise-in-obesity-20140707-story.html


And here's a study which shows that people aren't over eating, they're under exercising.

I'd say that's fair, I can personally link the times I actually gained weight to times when I also wasn't exercising. Obesity has definitely come to be as prominent as it is because of a change in diet but it's the decrease in the amount of exercise we do on a national/cultural level that's made it such a huge issue

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Poser » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:34 am

I used to lose weight if I stopped exercising. It's the muscle/fat dichotomy, and is why body fat percentage is a much better gauge of overall health. Shame it's relatively difficult to measure (or, the means with which to do so are relatively inaccessible).

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Dig Dug » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:04 am

Glad this got bumped, now I have some motivation back. Since coming home from uni I have eaten like gooseberry fool and not exercising because of stomach infections and gooseberry fool. Doesn't help when you are just scraping average health but the people around you think you are underweight when you yourself know you have a gut because of how much that gooseberry fool hangs when you bend over.

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by jiggles » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:21 am

[iup=3504095]Poser[/iup] wrote:Health tips, the GRcade way: eat Dominos


I don't see how you typing this is any better than Cal typing that title.

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Poser » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:25 am

Well, I was being heavily sarcastic, for one. But you knew that.


Sorry, it was a dick move on my part and I have no desire to go over that debate again, so I shouldn't have brought it up.

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Moggy » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:59 am

[iup=3504156]Poser[/iup] wrote:Well, I was being heavily sarcastic, for one. But you knew that.


Sorry, it was a dick move on my part and I have no desire to go over that debate again, so I shouldn't have brought it up.


Actually, bringing it back up is a great way of losing weight.

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Poser » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:02 pm

You are unbulimiable.

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Rocsteady » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:07 pm

Poser wrote:I used to lose weight if I stopped exercising. It's the muscle/fat dichotomy, and is why body fat percentage is a much better gauge of overall health. Shame it's relatively difficult to measure (or, the means with which to do so are relatively inaccessible).

Yeah I get that too, my weight plummets if I stop going to the gym for a while.

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Learning Curve » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:21 pm

I used to have a perfect BMI before going to the gym but now my muscle, put together with a naturally compact frame, have pushed me well into the overweight category. I could probably still lose some fat but I certainly have not gotten worse since I started exercising.

One of things that seems obvious but has only just sunken in with me is that even marginal amounts of calories can make a huge difference. If you take into account what you consume day on day, month on month, even being slightly over what you need will add up to a significant amount. I suppose this works the other way around through, as eve if you make a small cut day on day it can make huge difference in the long term.

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by BID0 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:30 pm

I moved on to Quorn last week and in a single week I've managed to lose any gains I had made since January :fp: :x

Think I am going to go back to eating chicken

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by CuriousOyster » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:33 pm

[iup=3504046]Fatal Exception[/iup] wrote:Most studies which rely on correlation rather than causation should be taken with a large portion of salt, but if there's one thing secret eaters has taught me, it's that fatties are liars who kid themselves.


This. There are so many women in my work 'always on diets' but lose no weight. They do not touch exercise at all and then try Juice Plus or some bullshit when it dosen't work.

Don't think they realise how bad a lasange and deep fried chips from the work canteen is :lol:

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Fatal Exception » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:39 pm

[iup=3504229]BID0[/iup] wrote:I moved on to Quorn last week and in a single week I've managed to lose any gains I had made since January :fp: :x

Think I am going to go back to eating chicken

You took advice from that skinny banana split Mo? He might be fast but he looks like a famine victim.

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by JiggerJay » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:16 pm

I put on weight when i stopped exercising, go figure

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Banjo » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:46 pm

I never trust overweight people that self-regulate their food intake or exercise, the giveaway is in the language they use. I've met far too many fatties (through work or other means) that complain about how some of their friends stay thin while they remain a balloon. Sentences like 'we eat about the same amount of calories', 'roughly as much exercise', they're pretty much blinkered to how much they actually do in contrast to other people. Now, I eat a lot of food and I often get people saying how it's going to catch up with me soon (if it does it's why I'm making the most of it now), but when I say that I'm quite active and walk everywhere the immediate response is that they walk a lot too.

Yeah... no. I walk fast, for hours on end, quite often carrying a bag of some kind. Fat apologists that amble around at a gentle pace cannot call that exercise.

Also, dont eat like gooseberry fool. I read Cal's opening post and it's hardly surprising that he lost weight simply by sorting out his diet, as his starting weight was absolutely in the overweight bracket. But that misses the point that exercise can be great fun and does wonders for your self-esteem. For me personally getting involved in basic weightlifting and practicing yoga has done my body wonders; my back and neck always used to be sore (awful posture and pretty much no muscle in those areas) but now I rarely feel uncomfortable as I learned how to actually compose my body. Plus I look taller, bonus.

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by OLIN » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:25 pm

[iup=3174299]Cal[/iup] wrote:
I wake up every morning and skip to the scales, half-expecting to see I've magically lost another half a stone overnight.


Don't hit the scales until after your morning dump.

If your morning dump doesn't take place until after breakfast, the above advice is not applicable.

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PostRe: Exercise may not be helping you lose weight
by Chocolate Jim » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:51 pm

Weight can sometimes be the most ridiculous sign of health

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