Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out

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PostFinal Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Mr Chips » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:03 am

Couldn't agree more really:

http://www.destructoid.com/final-fantas ... 2700.phtml

Square Enix may be the master of self parody. Only a company completely lacking in shame would officially unveil the next entry in a videogame franchise before the previous entry had even been released -- yet Square Enix did exactly that with Final Fantasy XIV, months ahead of XIII's launch.

I understand that XIV is an MMO, but even so, it's a ridiculous concept. It's even more laughable when you remember that Final Fantasy XIII was supposed to be three separate games, two of which were nowhere near to seeing a release at the time.

Most major publishers only have a handful of games in development at any given time. Square Enix, with just one franchise, has more in the works than I can remember at all times. And with each sequel, each spin-off, and each pretentious, dreary name, I care less and less.

I think the fantasy's worn off.



I saw a trailer for Final Fantasy Agito XIII this week, now renamed Final Fantasy Type-0, and I was almost pained by how little of a gooseberry fool I give anymore. It was just another dreary, dark, pompously "epic" trailer with more boring orchestral score, more quasi-cyberpunk aesthetics, and more ludicrous costumes drenched with brooding depression.

I used to be all for that. I'm one of those vile creatures who came to the series through Final Fantasy VII -- a game that's now very cool to hate -- and so I have no problem with the less fantastical, more futuristic Final Fantasy games. However, Square Enix has just done so much of it in such a short space of time, and has completely saturated its market to the point where I just can't take anymore.

The situation is simply overwhelming. Right now we have Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Final Fantasy Type 0, and Final Fantasy XIII-2 all in development at once. All of them are aesthetically indistinguishable from one another, and all of them will likely feature the same boring tropes that Square Enix have relied upon for years. I have no problem with games that don't innovate, but please tell me why I should care about three games being developed at once that all seem to be the same strawberry floating thing?



Square Enix is, essentially, the George Lucas of videogames. It can't leave well enough alone. Final Fantasy VII, which I still proudly believe is a fantastic game, has been systematically torn apart by Square Enix with unwarranted sequels, prequels, spin-offs and narrative rewrites, and now the entire game is just a waffling, overwrought mess. We had Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, Final Fantasy VII: Before Crisis, Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core, Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus, all of them adding more and more convoluted twists and turns to the series, with less and less respect for the audience.

Am I alone in thinking that it's just too much? A painter who cannot leave his work alone typically ends up with a canvas full of muddy brown gooseberry fool, and that's Final Fantasy VII now. After retroactively introducing increasingly silly characters into the series, and bogging it down with grandiose, meaningless tripe, Square Enix has ruined the whole thing. Just like what Lucas did with Star Wars.

Then there are the names. Fabula Nova Crystalis, Versus XIII, Agito, Type 0 ... what does it mean!? What does any of this pretentious strawberry floating gooseberry fool mean!? The names alone turn me off, as they give a clear indication as to just how up-their-own-arse the games are going to be. Anybody who hides behind bastardized Latin, made-up words, or the pointless rearrangement of sentences in order to appear clever and "deep" is a complete and utter dick.

Kingdom Hearts suffers from this as well. Once, it was one of my favorite franchises, but the more complicated and vague Squenix makes the plot, the less I care. We haven't seen hide nor hair of a Kingdom Hearts III, but we've seen the exact same bullshit as the Final Fantasy series appearing on handhelds -- Birth By Sleep, 358/2 Days, Re:Coded. Just this endless stream of flatulent names, with stories that stopped making sense years ago, and characters that couldn't be thinner if they were made out of Lena Zavaroni's stomach lining.



Remember when Final Fantasy was an event? A real treat? Each game was a self-contained story lasting hours and hours, and they only came along once every few years. They were special, and they meant something. Their stories began and ended in one epic sitting, and each one was distinct and always brought something new. Contrast that to now, where the main entries in the series can't be separated from the huge amount of spin-offs and remakes and strawberry floating sub-sequels. Now the franchise is just a grey sludge, everything looking and sounding alike, and constantly in development with at least five games in production at any given time.

Final Fantasy is just a machine now. A lurching, thunderous behemoth, methodically plodding forward in perpetual drudgery, churning out the same foggy irrelevance over and over again.

So when I see a trailer for Agito, or Type 0, or whatever inflated, grandiloquent name it's given itself this week, I can't even muster the strength to roll my eyes anymore. I already know what it's going to be like, because Square Enix seems incapable of pushing itself in any area other than graphics anymore. The game dialog is going to be a repeated stream of made-up words and brooding characters who have to learn to share their hearts, the graphics are going to be the same pseudo-futuristic stuff that we've seen already, and the gameplay will be another old idea re-purposed to look new, but will likely just be less interesting.

Maybe it was always like that? Maybe I've just gotten used to it due to the overexposure? All I know is I've had enough. It's too much now. And it's not just a case of too much. It's too much, too soon, too clumped together, and too histrionic. Square Enix has officially lost the plot, and I've lost all interest.

And not even Activision has that many strawberry floating games in the pipeline at once.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Christopher » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:06 am

There are too many games. But it's not like the franchise has suddenly turned to gooseberry fool.

4 Heroes of Light and XIII were not bad games. Versus and Type-0 look stunning. So I don't see the problem. If Versus and Type-0 turn out to be shite, then I'll say enough is enough, but they don't look like they'll be shite.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Fargo » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:23 am

Just do what I did and start playing VII again if the current direction the series is taking isn't to your fancy.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Rubix » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:38 am

suzzopher wrote:There are too many games. But it's not like the franchise has suddenly turned to gooseberry fool.

4 Heroes of Light and XIII were not bad games. Versus and Type-0 look stunning. So I don't see the problem. If Versus and Type-0 turn out to be shite, then I'll say enough is enough, but they don't look like they'll be shite.


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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by TheTurnipKing » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:40 am

I think the fact that it's an MMO more than excuses the reveal. Developing an MMO is entirely different from your "traditional" games, and usually has it's own dedicated team.

I think there are far better indications that FF is burnt out by looking at the gameplay, personally.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Drej » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:41 am

Its not like everyone has all platforms... There are too many games out but very few will be the ones who actually play them all... I dont really see the problem if the game quality is good i.e.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by gamerforever » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:41 am

I think its okay because of the fact that SE mix up the games. I do hope we see a less linear FF title soon, but with development costs being so high and the Japanese Gaming Industry dying theres no chance of that.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Beans » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:45 am

Final Fantasy is just a bit meh.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by speedboatchase » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:54 am

A serious question - could someone please distinguish for me the difference between Versus, O-Type and XIII-2, and where Versus and O-Type fit into the 'XIII brand'?

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PostFinal Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Frank » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:03 am

Don't versus and Agito have completely different characters and unrelated plots? Hence the rebranding to remove the FFXIII name :shifty:

Versus is PS3 exclusive and has real-time battles, Agito is a PSP game, and XIII-2 is a proper sequel to XIII in the same vein as X-2.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Carlos » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:09 am

Square is doing a Disney at the minute, relying on its established characters for money but doing nothing productive with them. The difference between them, and say Nintendo is that the core Mario, Metroid, Zelda series very rarely falter, even in the hands of 2nd and 3rd parties.

What Square could do with doing is reminding us why we fell in love with their Moogle, Chocobo, Cactuar and archtype mages in the first place and go back and make FFXV a fantasy instead of Sci-Fi.

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Postwell
by Mr.Jeff » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:14 am

I semi-agree on the endless rehash of certain elements of the series (especially with Kingdom Hearts) and that Square Enix have sacrificed a lot of ther decent writing quality for seemingly better graphics but part of that article smacks to me of rose tinted mewling of "I want a game like Final Fantsy 7 again! Waaaah!".

I know people say again and again that they'd rather have decent gameplay but strawberry float, give me someone who can write a decent story for an RPG any day.

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PostRe: well
by Mr Chips » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:35 am

Lucien wrote:
Mr.Jeff wrote:I know people say again and again that they'd rather have decent gameplay but strawberry float, give me someone who can write a decent story for an RPG any day.


I have an idea.

A kind hearted but troubled hero saves a naive girl - then fights the government with her help. He is joined by someone very sweet, someone very tough, and a willy wonka character.


There unlikely alliance is formed by their common beliefs and develops into an unbreakable friendship, but is tested to the limits as they travel around the world in an effort to stop the seemingly evil ploy of the government organisation, but it leads them to a much more significant path that will have consequences, not just for mankind, but everything that ever was and ever will be. Will our unlikely heroes succeed?

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PostWow!
by Mr.Jeff » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:39 am

Hey that sounds unique and not a rehash of similar plot based lines AT ALL.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Frank » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:07 pm

I haven't actually watched/played any of the numerous FFVII spin-offs (apart from Crisis Core, but the less said about that, and its battle system, the better), but is it actually possible to make the FFVII story any more convoluted? It was impossible to understand when I played it through the first time :fp:

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Alvin Flummux » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:10 pm

Final Fantasy is the most over-flogged dead donkey in the entire videogame industry.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Christopher » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:16 pm

Frank wrote:I haven't actually watched/played any of the numerous FFVII spin-offs (apart from Crisis Core, but the less said about that, and its battle system, the better), but is it actually possible to make the FFVII story any more convoluted? It was impossible to understand when I played it through the first time :fp:


What was so hard to understand? Blond spikey haired guy with amnesia thought he was bad ass, wanted to get sticky with a girl who sells flowers who talks to the Earth, Mr-T steals his mate's daughter and leaves him to perish in the dessert, some chick who could be kinda hot if she wasn't made or triangles used to be friends with our hero and now wants to get sticky with him, then you have the main bad guy who looks like a girl yet is meant to be the ultimate bad ass starts killing people all over the gaff, then steals his mum's body(who may be some kind of robot or summat) only you find out this guy is more than likely dead. Then along the way you meet a cat who is a scientist using the cat to communicate with you, a vampire, some bint who steals your gooseberry fool and a washed up pilot who runs like he has pooped himself.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Floex » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:18 pm

Spoilers :roll:

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Christopher » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:20 pm

Frank wrote:(apart from Crisis Core, but the less said about that, and its battle system, the better)


Crisis Core is awesome. Good combat system, better story than the sequel, Zack > Cloud.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy: Officially Burnt Out
by Frank » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:20 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:Final Fantasy VII is the most over-flogged dead donkey in the entire videogame industry.


I'd agree with that, but your original point is just ridiculous.

Every series has it's spin off games, look at the Mario Sports games, the Zelda CD-i games, the PSP version of Resistance, for example. But that's exactly what they are, they're spin-offs. Keep your focus on the mainline games, and they've had 13 games since 1987. That's hardly flogging it. 13 games in 23 years? How dare they.

And these spin-offs are sometimes good. Crystal Chronicles could be classed as a "spin-off", but it was the only Final Fantasy the Gamecube, and the Wii, ever saw. It's not as though they're releasing all these games on every single console. It's not like they're releasing 4 different Final Fantasy games on the PS3 and 360 this year alone.

The story is stupid, and he's whinging for absolutely no reason whatsoever anyway :roll:

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