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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Mini E » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:18 am

Jeff had this to say about Dave Jones and Hartlepool on Saturday...



and now...

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Moggy » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:30 am

Jeff's a powerful voice in Hartlepool. And it's fair enough, Hartlepool are having a terrible season, it's a results business and Jones wasn't getting the results.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by KingK » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:00 pm

Moggy wrote:Jeff's a powerful voice in Hartlepool. And it's fair enough, Hartlepool are having a terrible existence, it's a results business and Jones wasn't getting the results.

FTFY

On topic, I love Jeff (who doesn't?) but I'm not sure using his position on TV to vent his spleen like that was the wisest thing. Surely he could use his position as President to have a word off screen with the powers that be?

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by Corazon de Leon » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:04 pm

Football's an emotional business for a lot of people - I think you're right that it's poor form but from re-watching the rant it looks like he just lost it, rather than planning a Dave Jones out kind of thing. If anything, I wish Rovers had a voice like Jeff Stelling on TV.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Rex Kramer » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:05 pm

I can see new manager bounce being a thing but I'd really not want the Hartlepool job at this moment, 2 games to save their league status.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Mini E » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:52 pm

Can 'Arry manage two clubs at once?

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Moggy » Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:55 pm

KingK wrote:
Moggy wrote:Jeff's a powerful voice in Hartlepool. And it's fair enough, Hartlepool are having a terrible existence, it's a results business and Jones wasn't getting the results.

FTFY

On topic, I love Jeff (who doesn't?) but I'm not sure using his position on TV to vent his spleen like that was the wisest thing. Surely he could use his position as President to have a word off screen with the powers that be?


One the the best things about Soccer Saturday is that they don't hide their allegiances and try and pretend to be neutral. If Jeff wants a rant then I think it's fair enough.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Oblomov Boblomov » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:03 pm

Moggy wrote:
KingK wrote:
Moggy wrote:Jeff's a powerful voice in Hartlepool. And it's fair enough, Hartlepool are having a terrible existence, it's a results business and Jones wasn't getting the results.

FTFY

On topic, I love Jeff (who doesn't?) but I'm not sure using his position on TV to vent his spleen like that was the wisest thing. Surely he could use his position as President to have a word off screen with the powers that be?


One the the best things about Soccer Saturday is that they don't hide their allegiances and try and pretend to be neutral. If Jeff wants a rant then I think it's fair enough.


A rant is fair enough but it's completely out of order when it is specifically aimed at and has an impact on someone's livelihood.

Respect for Stelling has taken a hit.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Mini E » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:13 pm

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Moggy wrote:
KingK wrote:
Moggy wrote:Jeff's a powerful voice in Hartlepool. And it's fair enough, Hartlepool are having a terrible existence, it's a results business and Jones wasn't getting the results.

FTFY

On topic, I love Jeff (who doesn't?) but I'm not sure using his position on TV to vent his spleen like that was the wisest thing. Surely he could use his position as President to have a word off screen with the powers that be?


One the the best things about Soccer Saturday is that they don't hide their allegiances and try and pretend to be neutral. If Jeff wants a rant then I think it's fair enough.


A rant is fair enough but it's completely out of order when it is specifically aimed at and has an impact on someone's livelihood.

Respect for Stelling has taken a hit.


-1 respec hon?

FWIW - I really enjoy Soccer Saturday and the fact they basically can say what they want and when they want. No problem with what Stelling said. Passionate fan in the heat of the moment speaking from his heart.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by DML » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:19 pm

To be fair, Hartlepool are atrocious and shouldn't be in that position at all.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Parksey » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:09 pm

DML wrote:To be fair, Hartlepool are atrocious and shouldn't be in that position at all.


On the contrary, I would say they are doing a Villa - they've flirted with relegation for a few seasons now (they came really close to it two years ago and were saved only be a great escape), and they've had instability in the manager's seat, always changing once or twice a season and have had chronic under-funding in the boardroom.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Drumstick » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:24 pm

I think it's great that the Soccer Saturday guys have free reign to air their bias and preferences and believe that, along with their general camaraderie, it is what makes the show so great.

The difference here is that Stelling holds a position at Hartlepool and that makes his outburst unprofessional.

It will be interesting to see if he issues an apology at any point next Saturday.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by DML » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:41 pm

I mean theres no doubt about it, if you go down from League 2, you really, REALLY deserve to go down. Only teams that basically have created an absence of football get the shame of being eradicated from the league. I can absolutely understand Stelling's anger.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Drumstick » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:57 pm

Regards the Ched Evans news... It's kind of baffling. Looking at his record (the football one) he wasn't doing the business in League 1 last year (5 goals in 25 apps, apparently) so I can't imagine him faring any better in the Championship.

Guy should stick to hotel rooms.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Photek » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:18 pm

Rafa :wub:

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Lotus » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:29 am

Never liked Newcastle, but they deserve to go up for sure. Credit to Benitez as well, I'd wager that most other managers who've managed clubs at the level he has would never drop down to the Championship and work to make a top-flight return. Always liked him, glad to see him go up.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Photek » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:35 am

Villa should have signed him up.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Moggy » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:24 am

Lotus wrote:Never liked Newcastle, but they deserve to go up for sure. Credit to Benitez as well, I'd wager that most other managers who've managed clubs at the level he has would never drop down to the Championship and work to make a top-flight return. Always liked him, glad to see him go up.


Agreed.

Hopefully Brighton lose this weekend but then win their last game to take the title.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Gandalf » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:31 am

Drumstick wrote:Regards the Ched Evans news... It's kind of baffling. Looking at his record (the football one) he wasn't doing the business in League 1 last year (5 goals in 25 apps, apparently) so I can't imagine him faring any better in the Championship.

Guy should stick to hotel rooms.


That's the only place he can score.

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PostRe: Football League & Non League Football Thread - No more Drummy
by Drumstick » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:12 am

Moggy wrote:
Lotus wrote:Never liked Newcastle, but they deserve to go up for sure. Credit to Benitez as well, I'd wager that most other managers who've managed clubs at the level he has would never drop down to the Championship and work to make a top-flight return. Always liked him, glad to see him go up.

Agreed.

Hopefully Brighton lose this weekend but then win their last game to take the title.

For a split-second there I was all "...uh?" but then I got it. :lol:

I don't particularly like Newcastle as a club (scummy owner and all) but I do have a lot of love for Rafa so I'm pleased for him. :wub:

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