The Football Thread 2017-18

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by BOR » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:07 pm

De Bruyne’s pass to Sane was a world class. Quality.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Tomous » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:25 pm

BOR wrote:De Bruyne’s pass to Sane was a world class. Quality.


Legitimately one of the best passes I've ever seen

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Aha » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:38 pm

Blue Eyes wrote:City will probably open up quite a lead over the next few weeks. I don’t see a proper title race coming to be honest. They look too good.


Sadly I agree. I think there will be a title race, but City will eventually have a cushion. I mean it's far too early to tell what will happen, but my prediction is City to win with about a 9 point gap. I hope I'm wrong.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:21 am

Today for me confirmed that this season may be a right off for spurs in the prem. i just don’t see us getting enough points at Wembley to be competitive enough to trouble Man City. Hopefully we continue our good away form throughout the season but it will be very difficult. Just got to hope that we can get at least fourth and take champions league football to the new stadium next season.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Drumstick » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:25 am

Aside from the City/Stoke game, all in all it was a disappointing bunch of matches today. Some nice surprise results though.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Denster » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:36 am

How city cope with their first slump in form is key this season. Last season they never recovered from it. They look a different proposition this season but it’s still early.
They should win the league but they also have to start featiringin the latter stages of the champions league as well.

We have to try and stay with them at the moment.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Rubix » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:44 am

I think Man City will be unstoppable this season

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Corazon de Leon » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:15 am

I dunno, I don't think they're infallible. We'll see how the next few months roll out as they cope with the heavy winter schedule.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Irene Demova » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:16 pm

Koeman deserves to go

Not because of the result if they carry on losing but because this has been strawberry floating agony to watch

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Blue Eyes » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:29 pm

Games like Brighton v Everton don’t deserve the billing of Super Sunday. Should be Super gooseberry fool.

Enjoyed Mourinho blaming Klopp for yesterday’s debacle. He’s good at that. If Man Utd win the league I’ll gooseberry fool in my hands, clap and then eat it.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Blue Eyes » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:45 pm

Denster wrote:
Blue Eyes wrote:
Denster wrote:
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Blue Eyes wrote:This is probably the worst fixture in football. Utter incompetence from Liverpool and turgid cowardliness from Man Utd. Every strawberry floating time.

It happens every time Jose has an away game :lol:

I don't even get his logic, it's not a title race between just United and Liverpool so a draw actually helps out the rest of the potential champions the most.

Both posts are drivel. One from an idiot and another from one who likes to masquerade as one.

Sigh.

Bless.

Neither post is drivel. These are two of the biggest clubs in Europe and every time they play each other it’s gooseberry fool to watch. Mourinho always sets his teams up to spoil in the big games. That’s just true.

Sorry got confused it was your post before that provoked my ire. Because it’s idiotic and entirely consistent with the drivel you post.

United approach and tactics were spot on for that fixture and that opposition.
It was their execution of those tactics in attack that was poor. No doubt.
Your ‘what Mourinho is and what United are’ post is entirely in line with your headline slogan bullshit that you continually spit out.
Nonsense.

Well, maybe I went too far saying this is who Man Utd are, but it’s certainly a reflection of who Mourinho is. This was a Liverpool there for the taking but he didn’t want to get his team to take the game to them. strawberry floating Burnley managed to ruffle them and actually score the other week but a team with Man Utd’s talents only turned up to frustrate and strangle the life out of the game and didn’t manage a single shot on target for the entire second half because they weren’t interested.

If Man Utd tried to win this game they probably would have. Liverpool are in gooseberry fool form and Utd should have been riding on a wave of confidence and scoring freely. Going there with the sole aim of not losing shows a bit of a small-time mentality, wouldn’t you say?

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Preezy » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:47 pm

Milan derby starting now on BT Sport if anyone's interested.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Denster » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:49 pm

Blue Eyes wrote:
Denster wrote:
Blue Eyes wrote:
Denster wrote:
Irene Demova wrote:
Blue Eyes wrote:This is probably the worst fixture in football. Utter incompetence from Liverpool and turgid cowardliness from Man Utd. Every strawberry floating time.

It happens every time Jose has an away game :lol:

I don't even get his logic, it's not a title race between just United and Liverpool so a draw actually helps out the rest of the potential champions the most.

Both posts are drivel. One from an idiot and another from one who likes to masquerade as one.

Sigh.

Bless.

Neither post is drivel. These are two of the biggest clubs in Europe and every time they play each other it’s gooseberry fool to watch. Mourinho always sets his teams up to spoil in the big games. That’s just true.

Sorry got confused it was your post before that provoked my ire. Because it’s idiotic and entirely consistent with the drivel you post.

United approach and tactics were spot on for that fixture and that opposition.
It was their execution of those tactics in attack that was poor. No doubt.
Your ‘what Mourinho is and what United are’ post is entirely in line with your headline slogan bullshit that you continually spit out.
Nonsense.

Well, maybe I went too far saying this is who Man Utd are, but it’s certainly a reflection of who Mourinho is. This was a Liverpool there for the taking but he didn’t want to get his team to take the game to them. strawberry floating Burnley managed to ruffle them and actually score the other week but a team with Man Utd’s talents only turned up to frustrate and strangle the life out of the game and didn’t manage a single shot on target for the entire second half because they weren’t interested.

If Man Utd tried to win this game they probably would have. Liverpool are in gooseberry fool form and Utd should have been riding on a wave of confidence and scoring freely. Going there with the sole aim of not losing shows a bit of a small-time mentality, wouldn’t you say?

Uniteds plan was to nullify Liverpool’s attack and hit them on the counter. On paper we had enough goal threat to hurt them. But as I’ve said repeatedly we were poor in possession and gave the ball away.
We were sloppy and didn’t really get going offensively. That is down to the players.
The plan and tactics were spot on. The execution is where they were lacking.
His first two substitutions were both attack minded and only the third one was designed in keeping the point.

Hope that clears it up for you.
Is Mourinho the cavalier attack minded manager that Fergie was or Wenger or even Pep is? No. He’s not. But we have scored a lot of goals this season and made a great start. Mourinho is very good at winning and getting results. It’s a results business after all.



City are favourites and you can’t see past them but it’s only October.

You might just end up with gooseberry fool in your hands (as you so quaintly put it).
Whether that gooseberry fool comes from your arse or your mouth is a subject for debate.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Denster » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:54 pm

Oh and small time mentality?

Titles in four different countries and two champions league wins?
Yeah. Small time.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Saint of Killers » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:54 pm

Blue Eyes wrote:Games like Brighton v Everton don’t deserve the billing of Super Sunday. Should be Super gooseberry fool.

Enjoyed Mourinho blaming Klopp for yesterday’s debacle. He’s good at that. If Man Utd win the league I’ll gooseberry fool in my hands, clap and then eat it.


Mourinho, however, would not accept that it was a poor spectacle or that he had deliberately set out to leave Anfield with a draw. “It depends on what is an entertaining game,” the United manager said. “One thing is an entertaining game for fans, another thing is an entertaining game for people who read football in a different way.

“For me, the second half was a bit of chess but my opponent didn’t open the door for me to win the game. We came for three [points] but in the second half it was difficult to do that with the dynamic as it was. I was waiting for Jürgen to change and go more attacking but he kept the three strong midfielders at all times.

“I was waiting for him to give me more space to counter but he didn’t give me that. So I know that probably you think we were defensive and they were offensive – well, you [Liverpool] are at home and you don’t move anything. I don’t know why. I was waiting for that and he didn’t do it. I think he did well, honestly [not changing it].”


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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Saint of Killers » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:57 pm

:lol: Mourinho already angling for that improved contract: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41629072

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Denster » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:03 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/201 ... -sir-alex/


Interesting. Given their subsequent enmity.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by bear » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:45 pm

Stating the obvious here but Icardi is some player. That second goal tonight would give an erection to a corpse.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by PES Fan » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:34 am

Blue Eyes wrote:
Denster wrote:
Blue Eyes wrote:
Denster wrote:
Irene Demova wrote:
Blue Eyes wrote:This is probably the worst fixture in football. Utter incompetence from Liverpool and turgid cowardliness from Man Utd. Every strawberry floating time.

It happens every time Jose has an away game :lol:

I don't even get his logic, it's not a title race between just United and Liverpool so a draw actually helps out the rest of the potential champions the most.

Both posts are drivel. One from an idiot and another from one who likes to masquerade as one.

Sigh.

Bless.

Neither post is drivel. These are two of the biggest clubs in Europe and every time they play each other it’s gooseberry fool to watch. Mourinho always sets his teams up to spoil in the big games. That’s just true.

Sorry got confused it was your post before that provoked my ire. Because it’s idiotic and entirely consistent with the drivel you post.

United approach and tactics were spot on for that fixture and that opposition.
It was their execution of those tactics in attack that was poor. No doubt.
Your ‘what Mourinho is and what United are’ post is entirely in line with your headline slogan bullshit that you continually spit out.
Nonsense.

Well, maybe I went too far saying this is who Man Utd are, but it’s certainly a reflection of who Mourinho is. This was a Liverpool there for the taking but he didn’t want to get his team to take the game to them. strawberry floating Burnley managed to ruffle them and actually score the other week but a team with Man Utd’s talents only turned up to frustrate and strangle the life out of the game and didn’t manage a single shot on target for the entire second half because they weren’t interested.

If Man Utd tried to win this game they probably would have. Liverpool are in gooseberry fool form and Utd should have been riding on a wave of confidence and scoring freely. Going there with the sole aim of not losing shows a bit of a small-time mentality, wouldn’t you say?


Form goes out the window in these games. There have been times where we had good form going into these games and still lost.

A point at Anfield is not the end of the world. I'm sure all of the top teams would take a point there. City haven't won there since 2003. Spurs have had a poor record there. Chelsea have won twice in recent years and I wonder who the manager was for both of those games. We saw what happened to Arsenal a month ago.

It's easy to blame Mourinho. I felt the tactics were spot on, but the attack let the system down. Too many poor passes or touches to launch any sort of counter attack. Herrera and Mkhitaryan were very poor.

Liverpool are not as bad as you are making them out to be. Sure they are weak defensively. But another issue this season so far is that they been wasteful in front of goal. They were also the better team before the sending off against City. Salah missed a few chances.

Anyway a loss today for Leicester and I can see them sacking Shakespeare. He did a good job originally. But it always seems to happen like this when assistants take over. Results improve straight away and then the second season they drop. Or the results stay the same as they did with the previous manager. Can't remember the last time assistant manager who has taken over has lasted more than 12 months into the job.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Denster » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:35 am

Spot on for United.
Frustrating but a point there is a decent point.


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