The Football Thread 2017-18

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2017-18
by Preezy » Sun May 27, 2018 8:37 pm

Ramos was the hero we all needed, that’s all there is to it.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2017-18
by Drumstick » Sun May 27, 2018 8:44 pm

Ramos definitely was intending to try to injure Salah. Ramos doesn't release Salah's arm on the way down. Instead he had his entire body weight come down on Salah's arm/shoulder.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2017-18
by Hypes » Sun May 27, 2018 8:54 pm

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Hyperion wrote:It'll be unpopular because what you've said isn't accurate. Ramos 'wins' the ball only because he's already locked arms with Salah (Ramos' doing) not after and is already pulling him down. He doesn't break arms because he's trying to injure Salah.

He also elbowed Karius during the game which the ref ignored

He tried to injure him by hoping for a freak landing? There is nothing malicious in the tackle even if it is a deliberate foul, it's just horribly bad luck.

He held on to his arm and landed on it for a reason. The dislocation of his other shoulder was 'bad luck' for Salah, but probably more than Ramos had hoped for

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by Preezy » Sun May 27, 2018 9:00 pm

The real villain of the piece is Klopp for not consoling the keeper he backed to the hilt at the end of the match. The fact it was a Madrid player who was first on the scene (after he’d been on the ground with his head in his hands for a couple of minutes) who came to console him really makes the Liverpool players and staff look really really gooseberry fool.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2017-18
by Hypes » Sun May 27, 2018 9:02 pm

Yeah sure. Wasn't that they were also all devastated and on the ground with their head in their hands. What a weird narrative

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by shadow202 » Sun May 27, 2018 9:07 pm

Preezy wrote:The real villain of the piece is Klopp for not consoling the keeper he backed to the hilt at the end of the match. The fact it was a Madrid player who was first on the scene (after he’d been on the ground with his head in his hands for a couple of minutes) who came to console him really makes the Liverpool players and staff look really really gooseberry fool.
Uh yes he did, just because he didn't run straight to him doesn't mean he didn't console him after the game.

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by Mafro » Sun May 27, 2018 9:09 pm

Preezy wrote:The real villain of the piece is Klopp for not consoling the keeper he backed to the hilt at the end of the match. The fact it was a Madrid player who was first on the scene (after he’d been on the ground with his head in his hands for a couple of minutes) who came to console him really makes the Liverpool players and staff look really really gooseberry fool.

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by Preezy » Sun May 27, 2018 9:13 pm

From F365:

But Karius did deserve more help at the Olympic Stadium and Liverpool should reflect on how they failed to support their crestfallen keeper in the infancy of his misery. At the full-time whistle, he was left alone in goal, in full glare of the world, without even a shoulder to cry upon. The fact that the first on the scene were those in the white of Real Madrid does not put the Liverpool players in a positive light, though they had their own hurt to process.

The Liverpool ranks of coaching and support staff, as swollen as any other top level club, should have been swifter to respond. The game was lost with minutes to spare and it must have crossed someone’s mind that Karius would need a crutch. His goalkeeping coach, John Achterberg, eventually made his way over, but for a man with responsibility for just a single soul on the playing pitch, he appeared to be painfully slow in addressing what should have been his only concern.

But of course Liverpool fans will argue against that narrative, I get that.

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by 7256930752 » Sun May 27, 2018 9:14 pm

Hyperion wrote:
Hime wrote:
Hyperion wrote:It'll be unpopular because what you've said isn't accurate. Ramos 'wins' the ball only because he's already locked arms with Salah (Ramos' doing) not after and is already pulling him down. He doesn't break arms because he's trying to injure Salah.

He also elbowed Karius during the game which the ref ignored

He tried to injure him by hoping for a freak landing? There is nothing malicious in the tackle even if it is a deliberate foul, it's just horribly bad luck.

He held on to his arm and landed on it for a reason. The dislocation of his other shoulder was 'bad luck' for Salah, but probably more than Ramos had hoped for

He held onto his arm to pull him to the ground. Unless he does MMA training on the side there is no way he has tried to seriously hurt him as well.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2017-18
by Hypes » Sun May 27, 2018 9:21 pm

Preezy wrote:From F365:

But Karius did deserve more help at the Olympic Stadium and Liverpool should reflect on how they failed to support their crestfallen keeper in the infancy of his misery. At the full-time whistle, he was left alone in goal, in full glare of the world, without even a shoulder to cry upon. The fact that the first on the scene were those in the white of Real Madrid does not put the Liverpool players in a positive light, though they had their own hurt to process.

The Liverpool ranks of coaching and support staff, as swollen as any other top level club, should have been swifter to respond. The game was lost with minutes to spare and it must have crossed someone’s mind that Karius would need a crutch. His goalkeeping coach, John Achterberg, eventually made his way over, but for a man with responsibility for just a single soul on the playing pitch, he appeared to be painfully slow in addressing what should have been his only concern.

But of course Liverpool fans will argue against that narrative, I get that.

And Utd fans will always be obsessed, we get that

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2017-18
by Preezy » Sun May 27, 2018 9:26 pm

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by Hypes » Sun May 27, 2018 9:27 pm

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2017-18
by Blue Eyes » Sun May 27, 2018 10:11 pm

It was weird that Klavan went to console a blubbing Lovren who is a walking cock-up machine himself but nobody approached Karius. Thought that was very poor from the Liverpool players and staff.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2017-18
by Photek » Mon May 28, 2018 9:20 am

Karius not being consoled straight away is a really odd way of criticizing Liverpool, it's a bit of an over reach tbh, more than Karius could manage I suppose.

Horrendous goal keeping aside, I thought Liverpool played well all told. I don't know if Ramos meant it or not but he didn't have to hold onto it while going to ground, he has previous so I reckon it's more intentional than not.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2017-18
by Moggy » Mon May 28, 2018 9:33 am

Imagine being the sort of banana split that wishes somebody dead just because they made some mistakes in a football match. :dread:

Football really does attract braindead morons.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2017-18
by Saint of Killers » Mon May 28, 2018 9:55 am

Criticising club staff ≠ Criticising the club.

I think Klopp messed up not going to Karius straight away, but then it was a pretty exceptional way to lose so important a game and so I think he can be forgiven for behaving somewhat abnormally.

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by Tomous » Mon May 28, 2018 11:20 am

Suggestion on Twitter that Morocco’s bid is going to be disqualified from 2026 vote due to infrastructure concerns in 5 host cities. North America will get it by default if so.

Edit: actually seems they still have a vote as one of the topions is “none of the above” and the procsss starts again if so

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2017-18
by Zellery » Mon May 28, 2018 11:53 am

Moggy wrote:Imagine being the sort of banana split that wishes somebody dead just because they made some mistakes in a football match. :dread:

Football really does attract braindead morons.

Is Karius receiving death threats?


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