The Football Thread 2017-18

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Should the Title reflect Titles/cups on the same day?

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Blue Eyes » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:23 pm

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Photek wrote:I don’t think Mourinho is one of the best managers in the world any more but that’s a different argument. Manu are a bigger club than City I’m just saying money was the deciding factor, how is that slight on Manu?

Could you name every manager you think is better, please?

Pep, Conte, Allegri, Heynckes and Valverde.

I think Pochettino and Klopp have potential to be better.


What a bunch of nonsense.

What has Valverde done to be added to that list? Real Madrid are imploding, my nan would have managed to win the league with Barca after the way Madrid are playing. If Real Madrid were atleast close to them then I would praise his management. But Madrid have been their own downfall and he has faced no competition.

Why haven’t you added Luis Enrique to your fascinating list?

Allegri better than Mourinho? Really? Heynckeys too? What next Unai Emery? Do you really think if Mourinho was manager of Bayern, PSG or Juventus that they wouldn’t be top of the league?

Atleast try be subjective in your hatred. Or maybe you are trolling again, I don’t know which one it is these days.

And what about Moyes?!

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by darksideby182 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:26 pm

Oddly agree with Photek on the mangers list. For me Mourinho has lost his way a little especially on the domestic front. But I'm sure a load of money will sort it which sadly for most top managers it seems to be the only option.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Preezy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:29 pm

Pep gets credit for making £50m Sterling a better player.
Jose gets no credit for making £0 Lingard a better player.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Photek » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:30 pm

PES Fan wrote:I’m not talking about buying the league. I’m talking individual players like Nasri and Hazard rejecting the chance to play under Fergie to play for City and Chelsea. Nothing big was made about this. More was made about Man Utd being silly about not paying the agent fees. No agenda was being posted about how Hazard rejected the chance to work with the greatest manager of all time.


Do you know what Recency Bias means? Maybe google it if you don’t.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Photek » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:36 pm

PES Fan wrote:
Photek wrote:
Blue Eyes wrote:
Photek wrote:I don’t think Mourinho is one of the best managers in the world any more but that’s a different argument. Manu are a bigger club than City I’m just saying money was the deciding factor, how is that slight on Manu?

Could you name every manager you think is better, please?

Pep, Conte, Allegri, Heynckes and Valverde.

I think Pochettino and Klopp have potential to be better.


What a bunch of nonsense.

What has Valverde done to be added to that list? Real Madrid are imploding, my nan would have managed to win the league with Barca after the way Madrid are playing. If Real Madrid were atleast close to them then I would praise his management. But Madrid have been their own downfall and he has faced no competition.

Why haven’t you added Luis Enrique to your fascinating list?

Allegri better than Mourinho? Really? Heynckeys too? What next Unai Emery? Do you really think if Mourinho was manager of Bayern, PSG or Juventus that they wouldn’t be top of the league?

Atleast try be subjective in your hatred. Or maybe you are trolling again, I don’t know which one it is these days.

Why are you so triggered? Yes I think they are better managers than Mourinho, to perceive that as trolling is weird, it’s a perfectly reasonable list.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by PES Fan » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:40 pm

Conte isn’t negative apparently.

He lines up with 7 defensive players this season. Morata, Hazard and Fabregas are the only forward thinking players.

It’s the first time in their history that they had three goalless draws in a row.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by PES Fan » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:43 pm

Photek wrote:
PES Fan wrote:
Photek wrote:
Blue Eyes wrote:
Photek wrote:I don’t think Mourinho is one of the best managers in the world any more but that’s a different argument. Manu are a bigger club than City I’m just saying money was the deciding factor, how is that slight on Manu?

Could you name every manager you think is better, please?

Pep, Conte, Allegri, Heynckes and Valverde.

I think Pochettino and Klopp have potential to be better.


What a bunch of nonsense.

What has Valverde done to be added to that list? Real Madrid are imploding, my nan would have managed to win the league with Barca after the way Madrid are playing. If Real Madrid were atleast close to them then I would praise his management. But Madrid have been their own downfall and he has faced no competition.

Why haven’t you added Luis Enrique to your fascinating list?

Allegri better than Mourinho? Really? Heynckeys too? What next Unai Emery? Do you really think if Mourinho was manager of Bayern, PSG or Juventus that they wouldn’t be top of the league?

Atleast try be subjective in your hatred. Or maybe you are trolling again, I don’t know which one it is these days.

Why are you so triggered? Yes I think they are better managers than Mourinho, to perceive that as trolling is weird, it’s a perfectly reasonable list.



Are they better managers than Klopp too?

Strange you put Valverde and Allegri on that list. I’d take Klopps work ahead of them two by a distance.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Photek » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:43 pm

I literally said Conte is negative.

Ah well back to work.

Edit: yes they are better than Klopp as is Mourinho, please read my posts before losing your sh*t. Jesus.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Psychic » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:47 pm

Preezy wrote:Pep gets credit for making £50m Sterling a better player.
Jose gets no credit for making £0 Lingard a better player.

I'm waiting to see if this spell from Lingard is just a run of good form or actually what his level is now.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Blue Eyes » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:49 pm

PsychicSykes wrote:
Preezy wrote:Pep gets credit for making £50m Sterling a better player.
Jose gets no credit for making £0 Lingard a better player.

I'm waiting to see if this spell from Lingard is just a run of good form or actually what his level is now.

I think Lingard has been underrated until now. Got slagged off a lot despite fairly regularly contributing important goals like in the cup final a couple of years ago.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by PES Fan » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:57 pm

Photek wrote:I literally said Conte is negative.

Ah well back to work.

Edit: yes they are better than Klopp as is Mourinho, please read my posts before losing your sh*t. Jesus.


No you just looked at all the league tables in Europe and decided to pick the managers who are at the top without taking into context how different it is to the premier league.

Why isn’t Zidane on this list too? Two champions leagues back to back and league in three seasons.

Allegri, Heynckes or Valverde wouldn’t have it easy in the prem just like Pep found out last season. The prem has 5 great managers. Not including Wenger. Can you tell me any other league with this amount of great managers? Pep found it hard last season. Conte found it hard this season.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Preezy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:00 pm

*desperately scrambles to think of a reason for forgetting Zidane*

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by SandyCoin » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:05 pm

Blue Eyes wrote:
PsychicSykes wrote:
Preezy wrote:Pep gets credit for making £50m Sterling a better player.
Jose gets no credit for making £0 Lingard a better player.

I'm waiting to see if this spell from Lingard is just a run of good form or actually what his level is now.

I think Lingard has been underrated until now. Got slagged off a lot despite fairly regularly contributing important goals like in the cup final a couple of years ago.


I don't think he's been underrated. He was popping up with some important (and usually excellent) goals. However, his overall performances weren't anything to write home about. He's improved massively, so I hope he can continue and this isn't just a one season wonder kind of scenario.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Photek » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:13 pm

This is tiring,

Allegri has won Serie A for the past 3 seasons and we’re runners up in the Champions League last year.

Zinedine Zidane has been a Manager of 1 club for a year and a half. I don’t think that qualifies him as a great manager.

Heynckes has a ridiculous amount of honours including 2 Champions Leagues plus have you seen Bayern play under him? You should have, they beat you in Old Trafford on way to one of this champions leagues.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Preezy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:15 pm

Photek wrote:This is tiring,

Allegri has won Serie A for the past 3 seasons and we’re runners up in the Champions League last year.

Zinedine Zidane has been a Manager of 1 club for a year and a half. I don’t think that qualifies him as a great manager.

It's not the length of service, it's the trophies he's won during that time that show he's a great manager.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Photek » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:18 pm

Preezy wrote:
Photek wrote:This is tiring,

Allegri has won Serie A for the past 3 seasons and we’re runners up in the Champions League last year.

Zinedine Zidane has been a Manager of 1 club for a year and a half. I don’t think that qualifies him as a great manager.

It's not the length of service, it's the trophies he's won during that time that show he's a great manager.

Where are Real now? I can’t argue against lunacy.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Preezy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:20 pm

Photek wrote:
Preezy wrote:
Photek wrote:This is tiring,

Allegri has won Serie A for the past 3 seasons and we’re runners up in the Champions League last year.

Zinedine Zidane has been a Manager of 1 club for a year and a half. I don’t think that qualifies him as a great manager.

It's not the length of service, it's the trophies he's won during that time that show he's a great manager.

Where are Real now? I can’t argue against lunacy.

So if he wins the Champions League 2 seasons in a row, but now his team is struggling halfway through his 3rd season, he's suddenly not a great manager?

I can't argue against lunacy.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by bear » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:21 pm

What difference does Real Madrids league form make to how Valverde is doing? Instead of focusing on the gap between them and Barcelona we should just look at Barcelona's record. They are undefeated and on course for the best ever points total in La Liga. Considering they lost one of their most important players last summer and were without his replacement until the last week or so that's very impressive by Valverde.


I wouldn't have him in the top five or so managers in Europe right now but he has done a very impressive job since taking the reins.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Photek » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:21 pm

Djimi Traore has a Champions League medal.

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PostRe: Football Thread 17/18
by Denster » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:22 pm

Hime wrote:
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PES Fan wrote:People making out that Sanchez is joining some second tier club with a second rate manager. Last I checked Mourinho is still one of the best managers in the world?

Find it funny all these statements coming out. Nothing was said when City or Chelsea were doing it. Nothing was said like this when Hazard rejected the chance to play for the greatest manager of all time to play for Roberto Di Matteo. That was even worse in my opinion. Where as Sanchez this is his last big contract and he is obviously going to maximise it.



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What? :lol: everyone talks about Chelsea and Man City buying the league. How was Tevez treated by Utd fans.

Man Utd aren't s second rate club but it's unlikely Sanchez is going to win the Premier or Champions League there. Utd won cup competitions that aren't as prestigious as the FA cup which Sanchez won at Arsenal.

God knows how he will fit in a Mourinho side.


It's unlikely they'll win the league this year.But they well may win it next. Or are we saying City are dead certs for it next season too.
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Whilst not favourites United have a chance in the Champions league. Money is obviously a factor here but Sanchez will have plenty of chances to win the big prizes at United.


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