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abcd wrote:I hope these people find somewhere to live soon.
Vermilion wrote:abcd wrote:I hope these people find somewhere to live soon.
The Kremlin is a big complex, i'm sure they can spare a few bedrooms.
No photos of Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in hospital. No council CCTV of them walking between pub, restaurant, car park, feeding ducks or driving in Salisbury. No dead ducks or pigeons. No description of the clothes they were wearing. No Zizzi restaurant or Mill pub witness interviews. No photos of Det Sgt Nick Bailey with Theresa May or Amber Rudd or one showing he is ok now 'thanks for the public support'. No photos of Theresa May thanking the emergency staff at Salisbury hospital. No Consular Access offered for Yulia Skripal. No relatives or next of kin notified in Russia. No information on the treatment they are receiving. No official information on where Novichok has actually been found 'it's all media speculation from a source said'. No explanation why the bench was decontaminated and cleaned the night they collapsed. No explanation why it took so long to warn the public about contamination. No explanation why the police took the wrong shop CCTV footage originally. No explanation why the police are relying on shop CCTV when Salisbury taxpayers forked out £500,000 for new HD CCTV which volunteers haven't been able to access since the installation. No explanation why it took two days to find Sergei's car at the council compound even though police were witnessed going to his house an hour after the Skripals collapsed. No police appeal to people who had connections to Sergei Skripal. No explanation why Sergei has a Union Jack flag as a curtain even though 'a source' said he wanted to go home. No explanation why Yulia removed all family photos on her social media accounts but has had a photo of Salisbury Cathedral as her cover photo on Facebook for the last six years. No explanation why Theresa May hasn't waited for an independent evaluation of the evidence. No explanation why this Tory government hasn't notified the OPCW that Russia has been developing and stockpiling the Novichok nerve agents for the last ten years when it is in all our interests they legally do so.
There are too many No's and not enough Knows
Garth wrote:
Source of nerve agent 'not identified'
"We have not identified the precise source, but we have provided the scientific info to [the] government who have then used a number of other sources to piece together the conclusions," Mr Aitkenhead told Sky News.
"It is our job to provide the scientific evidence of what this particular nerve agent is - we identified that it is from this particular family and that it is a military grade, but it is not our job to say where it was manufactured."
A UK government spokesperson said that identifying the substance at Porton Down was "only one part of the intelligence picture".
It maintained Russia was responsible, adding there was "no other plausible explanation".
Hyperion wrote:
“It is our job to provide the scientific evidence of what this particular nerve agent is, we identified that it is from this particular family and that it is a military grade, but it is not our job to say where it was manufactured.”
Garth wrote:"It is our job to provide the scientific evidence of what this particular nerve agent is [...] but it is not our job to say where it was manufactured."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43633694
Evil Ted wrote:Garth wrote:"It is our job to provide the scientific evidence of what this particular nerve agent is [...] but it is not our job to say where it was manufactured."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43633694
Seems to be the most important quote. DSTL identified it as a novichok, and presented the evidence that it was a novichok to the government.
Lotus wrote:“It is our job to provide the scientific evidence of what this particular nerve agent is, we identified that it is from this particular family and that it is a military grade, but it is not our job to say where it was manufactured.”
It's not their job to find out, so why would we expect them to know where it was developed?
Cuttooth wrote:Evil Ted wrote:Garth wrote:"It is our job to provide the scientific evidence of what this particular nerve agent is [...] but it is not our job to say where it was manufactured."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43633694
Seems to be the most important quote. DSTL identified it as a novichok, and presented the evidence that it was a novichok to the government.
This would presumably line up with the first announcement in the House of Commons that the nerve agent was novichok of indeterminate origin, followed by the second announcement that other factors, including British intelligence, suggested it was Russian.