I forgot i have pcars 1 barely played too
another one on the pile...
EDIT: also it rustles my jimmies that there barely seem to be any game journos who can talk about racing games with any degree of enthusiasm or insight; i've listened to several podcasts where they spend 20+ minutes vigorously tugging each other off over Pyre, Destiny 2 or whatever while digging into the mechanics in forensic detail, but when it comes to racing games like pcars or forza the most you get is "they made another one of those i guess. It looks nice though but it isn't twitchbait, indie pixelshit or doesn't have social/gender issues i can get into twitter arguments about to use on slides at a PAX presentation."
I'm getting so annoyed about this that i've become tempted to start a purely racing game podcast in response, however nobody would listen to it.