G8 & Australia To Strangle The Net

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PostG8 & Australia To Strangle The Net
by Cal » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:48 pm

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Berlusconi plans to use G8 presidency to 'regulate the internet'

Italian president and media baron Silvio Berlusconi said today that he would use his country's imminent presidency of the G8 group to push for an international agreement to "regulate the internet".

Speaking to Italian postal workers, Reuters reports Berlusconi said: "The G8 has as its task the regulation of financial markets... I think the next G8 can bring to the table a proposal for a regulation of the internet."

Italy's G8 presidency begins on January 1. The role is taken by each of the group's members in rotation. The holder country is responsible for organising and hosting the G8's meetings and setting the agenda. Italy's last G8 presidency in 2001, also under Berlusconi, was marred by riots at the annual meeting in Genoa.

Berlusconi didn't explain what he meant by "regulate the internet", but the mere mention of it has prompted dismay among Italian commentators. Berlusconi owns swathes of the Italian mass media.

The left-wing newspaper L'Unita wrote: "You can not say that it is not a disturbing proclamation, given that the only countries in the world where there are filters or restrictions against internet are countries ruled by dictatorial regimes: those between China, Iran, Cuba, Saudi Arabia."

La Stampa reports Italian bloggers are planning to protest against any move by the president to tighten government control over the web tomorrow. They plan to display anti-Berlusconi banners on their websites.

Any G8 move next year to "regulate the internet" led by Berlusconi is likely to attract criticism. He has often been accused of using his power to try to silence dissent. He lost a long-running libel battle against The Economist earlier this year after it said he was not "fit to run Italy" and was this week suing American critic Andrew Stille for defamation*.

However, the governments of industrialised nations have been ramping up their rhetoric against internet content they view as unacceptable. The UK has introduced new laws and revived arcane ones to clamp down on extremist websites and niche pornography. Australia is busy implementing filters.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/03 ... _internet/

More Internet Woes for Australia

This month, the Australian government is rolling out firewalls to filter child-unfriendly sites.

Australia's Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy,(ABCDE?) Steven Conroy has a four year plan to spend $126m AUS to spearhead the "cyber-safety" initiative. The plan has already come under sharp opposition by groups including Simon Morton, Radio New Zealand's Technology Commentator.

"This would see the government establishing a blacklist of websites it deems harmful and ISPs providing a clean feed of the internet," he said.

Unsurprisingly, there are some that feel it doesn't hit hard enough. Whilst Britain and Canada have similar systems, none are Government mandated; and we all know how the Australian government feels about 18+ games.

The filter is also likely to put a drain on ISP speed. Similar studies have shown a drop of up to 86% in connectivity.

Senator Conroy already has 1,300 sites that he wants blacklisted (that few?), but 10,000 more are apparently on the "to do" list.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/vi ... -Australia

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PostRe: G8 & Australia To Strangle The Net
by shas'la » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:55 pm

wait, Italy are in the G8?

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by Alvin Flummux » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:55 pm

Corrupt wanker.

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by Dr. Buckles » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:59 pm

I read the title as 'GB & Australia To Strangle The Net' nearly went mental but all is ok, for now

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PostRe: G8 & Australia To Strangle The Net
by gaminglegend » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:13 pm

Its time we take out the Italians. Always been to smug for my liking, pizza making lunatics!

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PostRe: G8 & Australia To Strangle The Net
by Extralife » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:15 pm

We only let Italy in to make the gang look cooler.

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PostRe: G8 & Australia To Strangle The Net
by That » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:32 pm

I don't care what the Italians say/do and neither do the other G8 leaders.

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PostRe: G8 & Australia To Strangle The Net
by Cal » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:29 pm

Christprof wrote:I don't care what the Italians say/do and neither do the other G8 leaders.


Except when someone drops the magic words 'child protection' into any discussion about restricting online freedoms. Suddenly the Italians are everyone's new best friend.

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PostRe: G8 & Australia To Strangle The Net
by Jax » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:35 pm

This is a shambles. No politician has the slightest clue about the Internet, and so any attempt for them to regulate it can only end up in a mess. Then there'll be complaints about it being unfair, and these politicians will either ignore them, or loosen the straps a tiny bit, but not enough.

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by That » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:37 pm

Cal wrote:
Christprof wrote:I don't care what the Italians say/do and neither do the other G8 leaders.


Except when someone drops the magic words 'child protection' into any discussion about restricting online freedoms. Suddenly the Italians are everyone's new best friend.


They're Italians. They'll only switch sides to the paedos half-way through.

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PostRe: G8 & Australia To Strangle The Net
by massimo » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:48 pm

Jaxley wrote:No politician has the slightest clue about the Internet


That's a pretty bold statement to make.

The point I think we're missing here though is that the internet will have to eventually be regulated in one way or another one day. It has so much potential for evil, be it pedophilia, dodgy Nigerian internet scams and God knows what else that one day we'll be crying out for some sort of policing.

I know a lot of you are pissed off because some of your porn collections are probably considered illegal now, and to be honest that particular aspect I consider a little harsh, but don't lump all of this into the same category.

I'm not saying monitoring the internet is particularly a good or bad thing but the net really will be taking over every aspect of our lives if it already hasn't done so and one day someone will find out a way of really using it to devastating affect.

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PostRe: G8 & Australia To Strangle The Net
by Jax » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:50 pm

Well it was meant to be an exaggeration to be quite honest. My point being most don't understand it. Or their understanding is from a report someone put together which they read the Abstract to.

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PostRe: G8 & Australia To Strangle The Net
by Cal » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:59 pm

massimo wrote:The point I think we're missing here though is that the internet will have to eventually be regulated in one way or another one day.


It is regulated - and very stringently, as it happens. The IWF are just one of hundreds of self-appointed online censors, even before you start counting the multitude of multinational government-appointed online policing organisations.

massimo wrote:...and one day someone will find out a way of really using it to devastating affect.


...And that'll be governments who long ago realised that simply by invoking the spectral fear of online child abuse ("a £20billion a year industry" according to several government sources both here and abroad) they can create a diversionary access route to sneaking in all the restrictive legislation they want - with nobody able to argue against it. It's not about preventing child abuse: it never was and it never will be - that's a side issue, a total, calculated distraction. Until you understand that, your freedoms will continue to fade slowly and quietly away until all you are left with is a slow, government-filtered 'clean feed' via your broadband. Which is, funnily, enough, what the Australians are about to get themselves.

But you carry right on blithely supporting these measures to 'clean up' the interweb. You must be right.

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PostRe: G8 & Australia To Strangle The Net
by chalkitdown » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:59 pm

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PostRe: G8 & Australia To Strangle The Net
by massimo » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:11 pm

Cal wrote:
But you carry right on blithely supporting these measures to 'clean up' the interweb. You must be right.


Jesus H. Christ, chillax. ;)

I never said I supported anything. I won't sit here and slag it off until I've heard exactly what the ins and outs are.
Do you know what Berlusconi is going to propose? I certainly don't so I won't stay closed minded about it.

Yes if it turns out to something put in place to purely limit our freedoms or just plain doesn't work then yeah, I'll probably be against it. But until then, I'm considering all avenues which I think everyone should do.

I think there's all too much conspiracy theory going on nowadays, it gets boring.

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PostRe: G8 & Australia To Strangle The Net
by massimo » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:16 pm

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You know that's not real right?


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