Gabe Newell: Next Half Life Needs to Scare Players

Agent47 wrote:When put next to the likes of Metro 2033, Ravenholm looks like the Mushroom Kingdom.

That's hardly a fair comparison.

Winckle wrote:When put next to game y, a game made 5 and a half years later, game x seems outmoded and technically inferior!

Age has nothing to do with atmosphere. Silent Hill 2 still has more atmosphere than any other horror game before or since. Has nothing to do with visuals or age, it's a perfectly legitimate comparison.

Agent47 wrote:

Winckle wrote:When put next to game y, a game made 5 and a half years later, game x seems outmoded and technically inferior!

Age has nothing to do with atmosphere. Silent Hill 2 still has more atmosphere than any other horror game before or since. Has nothing to do with visuals or age, it's a perfectly legitimate comparison.

Tell me, can I throw a circular sawblade or a flaming gas bottle at enemies in Metro 2033?

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:

Agent47 wrote:

Winckle wrote:When put next to game y, a game made 5 and a half years later, game x seems outmoded and technically inferior!

Age has nothing to do with atmosphere. Silent Hill 2 still has more atmosphere than any other horror game before or since. Has nothing to do with visuals or age, it's a perfectly legitimate comparison.

Tell me, can I throw a circular sawblade or a flaming gas bottle at enemies in Metro 2033?

Really not getting the point, are you?

Agent47 wrote:

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:

Agent47 wrote:

Winckle wrote:When put next to game y, a game made 5 and a half years later, game x seems outmoded and technically inferior!

Age has nothing to do with atmosphere. Silent Hill 2 still has more atmosphere than any other horror game before or since. Has nothing to do with visuals or age, it's a perfectly legitimate comparison.

Tell me, can I throw a circular sawblade or a flaming gas bottle at enemies in Metro 2033?

Really not getting the point, are you?

I think it is you who is missing the point. The point is that Ravenholme is awesome. It is awesome not because of atmosphere, but of the things you can do.

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:

Agent47 wrote:

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:

Agent47 wrote:

Winckle wrote:When put next to game y, a game made 5 and a half years later, game x seems outmoded and technically inferior!

Age has nothing to do with atmosphere. Silent Hill 2 still has more atmosphere than any other horror game before or since. Has nothing to do with visuals or age, it's a perfectly legitimate comparison.

Tell me, can I throw a circular sawblade or a flaming gas bottle at enemies in Metro 2033?

Really not getting the point, are you?

I think it is you who is missing the point. The point is that Ravenholme is awesome. It is awesome not because of atmosphere, but of the things you can do.

Ravenholm was supposed to be atmospheric and scary, it was neither. Considering the whole point of this thread is scariness in Half-Life, the fact you can throw gooseberry fool around makes no difference whatsoever.