'GamerGate' rumbles on...

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by TheTurnipKing » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:59 am

Well, the thing is, that nothing he says in that video is terribly controversial.

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by SEP » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:49 am

[iup=3617727]TheTurnipKing[/iup] wrote:Well, the thing is, that nothing he says in that video is terribly controversial.


The problem is, his actions peak much louder than his words. Jack Thompson has LITERALLY tried to censor games. Sarkeesian just talked about how maybe they could be a little less male-biased. She didn't go to court and try to get anything pulled from the shelves, she just made a couple of videos/

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by TheTurnipKing » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:59 am

Anita's definition of sexism appears to be quite terribly skewed.

https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/533445611543363585

http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com ... efinition/

What you see here is a kafkatrap that says that women can't be sexist, while simultaneously suggesting that it is impossible for a man NOT to be a misogynist, and any attempt to prove that you are not a misogynist simply proves that you are.

If you want to talk about intellectual dishonesty, there it is.

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PostRe: 'GamerGate' rumbles on...
by Skippy » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:25 am

How is this thread still active? GamerGate is barely even a thing any more, the world has rightfully moved on and their 15 minutes are up.

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by TheTurnipKing » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:30 am

Topsy suggests otherwise.

I guess it might look different to someone who blocks all dissenting opinions, though.

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by Trelliz » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:15 am

[iup=3617767]TheTurnipKing[/iup] wrote:Topsy suggests otherwise.

I guess it might look different to someone who blocks all dissenting opinions, though.


Are you Cal? The "evidence" from that link simply shows people using the hashtag regardless of whether it's in a positive or negative context, as well as showing a general downward trend anyway. Also nice passive-aggressive indirect attacks on people without naming them specifically.

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PostRe: 'GamerGate' rumbles on...
by TheTurnipKing » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:34 am

http://topsy.com/s?q=%23gamergate&window=m

I'm attacking no-one. I have no way of knowing who has, and has not, chosen to self-censor themselves with one of the many ill-advised blocking technologies developed to shield people from opinions they don't like.

But it's not the first time that #GamerGate has been declared over; If it's solely the work of trolls, then it's quite the most sustained act of internet trolling I have ever seen.

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by Skippy » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:46 am

[iup=3617798]TheTurnipKing[/iup] wrote:If it's solely the work of trolls, then it's quite the most sustained act of internet trolling I have ever seen.


You've clearly never been to the imdb message boards

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by TheTurnipKing » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:47 am


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by Cal » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:11 am

ANITA SARKEESIAN: DEBATE ME AND I WILL DONATE $10,000 TO FEMINIST FREQUENCY (OR A CHARITY OF YOUR CHOICE)

Last week, I challenged Anita Sarkeesian, host of Feminist Frequency and bête noire of GamerGate, to a debate. I said I would give $5,000 to a charity of her choice if she accepted. Today, thanks to a generous anonymous benefactor, I am increasing that offer to $10,000.

Some people will find the idea of conditional charity distasteful. But it is my hope that Sarkeesian, who has to my knowledge never once agreed to a public debate or taken audience questions about her wild and offensive views on video games, will be motivated by this offer to join me in a live panel discussion some time in June, in Los Angeles, shortly before or after the E3 gaming convention.

Sarkeesian’s ideas are controversial, and extremely unpopular. And gamers have reacted angrily to her depictions of them as hateful bigots. This ABC news report featuring Sarkeesian has 48,000 down-votes on YouTube (97 per cent negative) and some 15,000, mostly negative, comments. It was at one point the eighty-fifth most disliked YouTube video ever.

Although Sarkeesian recently made the TIME 100, this was not by popular demand. 80 per cent of voters in TIME’s online poll did not believe she merited a place on the list. There is, it seems, a gigantic sentiment gap between media elites and everyone else.

There’s also a feeling among gamers and many video games industry figures that Sarkeesian is reluctant to step outside hermetically sealed environments and engage in the battle of ideas. No one seems quite sure why, but they’ve noticed a pattern of dodging when it comes to engaging in intellectual discourse, as opposed to preaching from distant pulpits.

ABC’s online video is exceptional in that commenting has been permitted at all: when Sarkeesian appeared on the Colbert Report, she struck a deal with the show to have comments turned off any online copy of the video. It’s the only Colbert YouTube clip to have comments disabled. On Sarkeesian’s own YouTube channel, no comments are allowed anywhere and haven’t been since long before GamerGate started.

Given the damage I believe has been done to the video games industry by Sarkeesian’s flawed and divisive philosophies, I think consumers, developers and publishers alike deserve the opportunity to hear her defend her thesis, that video games contribute to a damaging atmosphere of misogyny and that they “reinforce systems of power and privilege and oppression.”

They also deserve to hear her justify claims that gaming is saturated with misogyny outside the safe confines of friendly television segments and her own glossy YouTube clips. I believe GamerGate has been a powerful force for good, despite some rough edges. If the case against GamerGate is so self-evident, it should be able to withstand challenge. It ought to be easy for Sarkeesian to conclusively demonstrate that it is an irredeemable hate movement with no ideological objectives beyond the subjugation of women.

My own views on this subject, and my opinion of Sarkeesian’s slippery methods, are clear and, by now, well-known. I would like the chance to challenge her thinking in a live environment and explain why I believe her criticisms of gaming and game culture are without merit and belong to an outmoded and discredited era of academia. I would like to show how her prescriptions for video games are unnecessary, trivial and even counter-productive to her stated aims.

Sarkeesian may choose the date, venue and the moderator. I will agree to any reasonable security and format demands, including pre-screening of audience members, provided each speaker is given equal time, each answers the same number of questions and each has the same time allotted for brief opening and closing statements.

I have a couple of conditions. The debate will last at least an hour, and must be streamed live. No subject is off-limits. Questions must be taken by each speaker from members of the audience and from each other: there should be plenty of time for cross-examination. Questions should not be shared ahead of time. No earpieces, and no long prepared statements. Admittance is free. (I’ll cover the cost of the venue and security, if need be.) And that’s really it.

“What I couldn’t say,” remarked Sarkeesian at a women’s conference in March, about the harassment she says she has faced as a consequence of her provocative and extreme opinions, “was f–k you.” Well, here’s your chance. I can take invective just as well as I can dish it out, so bring your A-game. If you think you are a victim of hateful, oppressive bullying, and not merely a professional provocateur crying foul, why not make your case to the world?

Say it to our faces, Anita. There’s $10,000 on the line for any charity you choose


http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/04 ... ur-choice/

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PostRe: 'GamerGate' rumbles on...
by Eighthours » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:45 am

:fp: :fp: :fp:

No way Anita's agreeing to this trap.

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by Herdanos » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:48 am

Cal wrote:
If you think you are a victim of hateful, oppressive bullying, and not merely a professional provocateur crying foul, why not make your case to the world?


Is it really in doubt?

Wikipedia wrote:Attackers sent Sarkeesian rape and death threats, hacked her webpages and social media, and distributed her personal information. They posted disparaging comments online, vandalized Sarkeesian's article on Wikipedia with racial slurs and sexual images, and sent Sarkeesian drawings of herself being raped by video game characters.[25][26][27][28][29][30] One attacker created the computer game Beat Up Anita Sarkeesian, which prompted players to bloody a picture of Sarkeesian by clicking the mouse.[27][31]

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by Trelliz » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:51 am

Milo Yiannopoulos, that long-standing pinnacle of support for gamers:

twitter.com/MattBinder/status/524298648486559744



twitter.com/MattBinder/status/524295979051134978



twitter.com/MattBinder/status/524295376849739776



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by TheTurnipKing » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:01 pm

Matt "consensual sex is rape" Binder

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by Trelliz » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:03 pm

TheTurnipKing wrote:Matt "consensual sex is rape" Binder


I have no idea who Matt Binder is, but funnily it's the only place to find those Milo tweets as he's deleted them. A sign of sure-fire integrity to be sure.

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PostRe: 'GamerGate' rumbles on...
by KK » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:14 pm

As all men are theoretically "bollock scratchers" I think that intended insult fell on deaf ears.

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by Venom » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:01 pm

Not this again! Sarkeesian will never accept. I'm newish to twitter but have her on my twitter feed. She posted this:

twitter.com/femfreq/status/584547382215315457



I know YouTube would likely remove a video with violent threats and hate speech towards her. So, my first thought is that someone who disagrees with her opinion should not automatically be labelled a hater but obviously I couldn't say until I watched it. So I found the video on YouTube. It's 12 minutes long and strawberry float watching the whole thing so I skipped through it and there is this guy The Amazing Atheist who is criticising her and her opinions etc but not actually saying anything hateful (racist/sexist etc) at least in the 5 second sections I'd watched. Near the end in the last two minutes he starts swearing and shouting at the screen like a proper mental and yelling 'you've strawberry floating failed.' Very critical, very unfriendly towards her but is it correct to call it hate? What I mean is, a contrary opinion isn't hate, so does the use of swear words and shouting make it hate?

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PostRe: 'GamerGate' rumbles on...
by Skippy » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:12 pm

There are still some noxious fumes escaping GG's bloated corpse then I see

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PostRe: 'GamerGate' rumbles on...
by False » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:17 pm

Man you nerds need to get a life.

Its videogames.

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by bear » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:18 pm

The fact that nonsense YouTube video got so much attention Googles algorithms placed it high on a list of Sarkeesian search results just shows how bloody stupid this Gamergate nonsense is. She is getting more attention for being the victim of online abuse than she is for her work. Its utterly bizarre that gamergaters still can't seem to get their head around something as basic as that. If you didn't have halfwits threatening her then you wouldn't have stories on sites like Polygon, Kotaku etc. about her being threatened. I realise I am stating the blindingly obvious here but apparently that simple truth is beyond some people. Its genuinely mystifying.


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