Gay footballers,is it ok to speculate?

Who voted yes?

Come on, out yourself, it's just a giggle after all.

Preezy wrote:Who voted yes?

Come on, out yourself, it's just a giggle after all.

Is it okay to speculate on who voted yes?

Earfolds wrote:

Preezy wrote:Who voted yes?

Come on, out yourself, it's just a giggle after all.

Is it okay to speculate on who voted yes?

Well there are two of them now.

I am guessing Hexx and Gario. Is it okay to shame them for their votes?

Preezy wrote:

Moggy wrote:It’s bloody sad that footballers are too afraid to come out. I totally get why they don’t, football fans are horrible.

It's not just the fans. Fellow players, coaches and managers are conditioned to be ultra-masculine and suspicious of the "other" from a very young age.

As for the OP poll, of course it's not alright to speculate

Rapidly-Greying wrote:I'll start by saying that I'm not in any way homophobic,my brother is gay.

I'm not a racist because I've got black friends.

What you having a go at me for,its just a question. It's not exactly morally sound to speculate as to which celebrities are going to die but we do that here so I reckon my question is perfectly valid.

This country

Rapidly-Greying wrote:What you having a go at me for,its just a question. It's not exactly morally sound to speculate as to which celebrities are going to die but we do that here so I reckon my question is perfectly valid.

This country

He was joking. Stop being a professionally offended snowflake.

This country.

Moggy wrote:

Earfolds wrote:

Preezy wrote:Who voted yes?

Come on, out yourself, it's just a giggle after all.

Is it okay to speculate on who voted yes?

Well there are two of them now.

I am guessing Hexx and Gario. Is it okay to shame them for their votes?

Tell me I'm naughty


(I've not voted)

Rapidly-Greying wrote:It's not exactly morally sound to speculate as to which celebrities are going to die.

Why not? Everybody dies, what's wrong with speculating who'll be next?

Rapidly-Greying wrote:What you having a go at me for,its just a question.

I wasn't having a go, just merely pointing out that saying you're not homophobic because your brother is gay is a completely empty statement, in the same way as saying that people can't be racist because they've got black friends.

Rapidly-Greying wrote:

Preezy wrote:

Moggy wrote:It’s bloody sad that footballers are too afraid to come out. I totally get why they don’t, football fans are horrible.

It's not just the fans. Fellow players, coaches and managers are conditioned to be ultra-masculine and suspicious of the "other" from a very young age.

As for the OP poll, of course it's not alright to speculate

Rapidly-Greying wrote:I'll start by saying that I'm not in any way homophobic,my brother is gay.

I'm not a racist because I've got black friends.

What you having a go at me for,its just a question. It's not exactly morally sound to speculate as to which celebrities are going to die but we do that here so I reckon my question is perfectly valid.

This country

TBF, that topic is bloody odd too.

Floex wrote:TBF, that topic is bloody odd too.

Not really, it's just a thread where celebrity deaths get announced, as opposed to each individual death getting its own thread clogging up the forum with endless RIP posts. Obviously it's got its own GRcade flavour, but that's par for the course.

Moggy wrote:

bear wrote:Are football fans on the whole really that bad?

8% of them are.

more heat than light wrote:Wasn't there a poll recently that said 5% of people would stop supporting their team if they had a gay player or something?

EDIT 8%

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/37760114

And that's the 8% that admit their views, the actual percentage of arseholes will be much higher.

I am sure the majority are decent people that wouldn't dream of chanting abuse at players over their sexuality. But the arseholes are usually the loud ones that the player will clearly hear chanting and abusing.

The arseholes would quickly get drowned by the majority of fans or chucked out by stewards. I was at the Liverpool-Man City match in January and Raheem Sterling was verbally abused constantly when he got on the ball but I never heard it cross a line into unacceptable behaviour. Plenty of booing and chants about being a greedy bastard but nothing I wouldn't dare repeat when talking to someone else about the match.

There'd bound to be a number of fans who would use it as a way of getting to the player through abusive chants; hell, even Ozil has a song about his eyes being offside...

You'd would think though regarding gay players people would probably say that it was out of line and what-not... People do eventually get with the times (see throwing bananas on the pitch)...

Also, as a Brighton supporter, some of the games I've been to have been married by sudden outbursts of derogatory chanting about gay people from the away supporters.

bear wrote:The arseholes would quickly get drowned by the majority of fans or chucked out by stewards. I was at the Liverpool-Man City match in January and Raheem Sterling was verbally abused constantly when he got on the ball but I never heard it cross a line into unacceptable behaviour. Plenty of booing and chants about being a greedy bastard but nothing I wouldn't dare repeat when talking to someone else about the match.

We still have racial abuse being shouted from the stands. As Drummy says, Brighton fans still have anti-gay chants aimed their way. Chelsea might have done some good work, but the sounds of gas chambers are still heard, Spurs still chant “Yid Army”.

Things are better than they were, but I have zero doubt that homophobic chanting would be very loud for quite some time if a player was to come out.

more heat than light wrote:Wasn't there a poll recently that said 5% of people would stop supporting their team if they had a gay player or something?

EDIT 8%

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/37760114

That can’t be serious. Surely those people were trolling with their answer.

Preezy wrote:

Rapidly-Greying wrote:It's not exactly morally sound to speculate as to which celebrities are going to die.

Why not? Everybody dies, what's wrong with speculating who'll be next?

Lots of footballers are gay,what's wrong with speculating about which ones are,on a fairly harmless gaming forum?

Rapidly-Greying wrote:What you having a go at me for,its just a question.

I wasn't having a go, just merely pointing out that saying you're not homophobic because your brother is gay is a completely empty statement, in the same way as saying that people can't be racist because they've got black friends.

No racist in the world has genuine black friends,just black people that they pretend to like when they are around. I do though,have a gay brother,so (pump noise).

Anyway,I'm gonna start the speculation by mentioning a certain open goal missing man city player. When he runs it just screams gay.

So Rapidly-Gaying was one of the yes votes....

Rapidly-Greying wrote:Anyway,I'm gonna start the speculation by mentioning a certain open goal missing man city player. When he runs it just screams gay.

strawberry floating hell.

Drumstick wrote:Also, as a Brighton supporter, some of the games I've been to have been married by sudden outbursts of derogatory chanting about gay people from the away supporters.

Makes sense I suppose, if all the away fans have the authority to perform marriages at football games then they’re probably priests whose opinions have been influenced by their church.

Rapidly-Greying wrote:
No racist in the world has genuine black friends,just black people that they pretend to like when they are around. I do though,have a gay brother,so (pump noise).

While that is sort of true, there are plenty of people with black friends who will make horrendous comments about black people. I am sure some people with gay friends or relatives are very similar….

Anyway,I'm gonna start the speculation by mentioning a certain open goal missing man city player. When he runs it just screams gay.

….

Oh dear