GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

[Cumberdanes]

Probably, though not likely because of how few games were released more because of how few copies were sold I should imagine.

[Drumstick]

Yeah if you have the cash to pick some Wii U titles up you could probably be sitting on a small nest egg in 10-15 years time. Just find out which acclaimed titles sold the fewest and buy 'em.

[Victor Mildew]

Here's my Gamecube collection in its current state!

The state of that collection.

[Photek]

I don't like the look of my GC games on newer TV's looks fuzzy, Wind Waker HD is so gorgeous in comparison though it does lose something in translation.

[Green Gecko]

PVM supremacy.

[Photek]

I'm not in here much at all, is it about retro games on retro hardware or just retro games, even if they on modern hardware?

Cos I'm currently Loving Daytona USA on Xbox One which itself is retro cos its backwards compatible from Xbox 360 which was retro to begin with, Yo Dawg I heard you like retro games in your retro games...

[Corazon de Leon]

Either or mate, we're a pretty inclusive crowd.

Also picked up Lemmings 2 on SNES for a tenner this morning. Just missed out on Luigi's Mansion unfortunately.

I reckon I'll pick up Breath of the Wild and all the first party games on the Wii U. Obviously to play, but I also reckon there might be a market for them down the line.

[Cumberdanes]

I suppose the issue with the term retro is that most people likely have their own version of just what retro means. For me it's anything that is no longer readily available in shops so anything from the generation before last and older.

Yes I realise you can still buy PS2, GC and XBOX games in some shops but most titles aren't exactly readily available and you often have to shop around to find what you're looking for.

[Parksey]

I would imagine retro games re-released on any platform are fine. Remasters where they've been completely modernized wouldn't count (like, say, the Ducktales one or the Castle of Illusion that came out) and neither would modern indie retro games like Shovel Knight. It would just be a bit strange talking about them here, s'all.

Personally, I wouldn't count native PS3/360 software as retro. I've been playing some of my PS3 this past month or so, and they definitely don't feel like retro. Apart from the visuals (and I reckon the last gen still looks fantastic and perfectly acceptable through modern eyes), the games play practically identically to current gen titles anyway.

[Herdanos]

To me, retro means hardware not currently supported by the manufacturer. So the 360 isn't Retro yet as MS keep supplying updates, etc.

[That]

As a primarily PC/Nintendo gamer, I see a fairly clear demarcation around the turn of the millennium. The year 2000 saw the last truly great retro PC game released, Deus Ex - a couple of years later, Morrowind clearly isn't retro any more - and this was just before the 2001 launches of both the GameCube and the GameBoy Advance. The Wind Waker and Mario Sunshine feel like huge and obvious leaps over Ocarina of Time and Mario 64, not necessarily in gameplay - they're worse games - but in modernity and not feeling retro-clunky any more.

[Cumberdanes]

To me, retro means hardware not currently supported by the manufacturer. So the 360 isn't Retro yet as MS keep supplying updates, etc.

That's a pretty good definition but it get's thrown a bit askew when you consider that the Famicom wasn't discontinued in Japan until 2003 with repairs offered until 2007.

[chanticleer]

Yeah if you have the cash to pick some Wii U titles up you could probably be sitting on a small nest egg in 10-15 years time. Just find out which acclaimed titles sold the fewest and buy 'em.

I've traded in all my U stuff save for the limited edition of Star Fox. Not a great game, but as Star Fox Guard is on disc and is otherwise download-only, I reckon it'll be fairly sought after.

[jawafour]

To me, retro means hardware not currently supported by the manufacturer. So the 360 isn't Retro yet as MS keep supplying updates, etc.

That's a pretty good definition but it get's thrown a bit askew when you consider that the Famicom wasn't discontinued in Japan until 2003 with repairs offered until 2007.

I'd agree with Dan's (it is Dan, I think? ) definition although, as Salad indicates, there are always a few variances. Even though Nintendo supported the NES until 2007, I'd venture we could agree that it is (and was) retro. MS still support the 360 and Sony the PS3, even though they're not manufacturing the consoles any more. The rise in online connectivity will probably mean that support will run longer than in the past.

Personally I would consider anything before the Wii / 360 / PS3 as being retro. So, yeah, I would place the PS2, GameCube and Xbox as retro.

I've traded in all my U stuff...

. Wow, that was quite a step to take, chanticleer. People have different preferences but, personally, I now rarely trade in games. I'd rather keep my old gear and just wait until I can afford newer stuff - or do without it.

[chanticleer]

I've traded in all my U stuff...

. Wow, that was quite a step to take, chanticleer. People have different preferences but, personally, I now rarely trade in games. I'd rather keep my old gear and just wait until I can afford newer stuff - or do without it.

Ah, I try not to horde stuff. Except records and CDs. They're mine forever. I had some nice memories with the U, but realistically I'm very unlikely to ever pick it up again so I'd rather get the value for it now to put against the Switch.

[jawafour]

Ah, I try not to horde stuff. Except records and CDs. They're mine forever. I had some nice memories with the U, but realistically I'm very unlikely to ever pick it up again so I'd rather get the value for it now to put against the Switch.

That's a fair point, man. I tend to hoard gear... I wouldn't get rid of some of my games even though I know full well that I will never play them. The "collector" side of me likes shiny things . Most of my mates just use stuff and sell it on or get rid of it; that approach just isn't in my genes .

[Preezy]

Chiming in with my two pennies on the "what is retro" chat, taken from a near-identical conversation in GGC:

As the machine is no longer being made, I guess the 360 could be classed as "retro" now?

An interesting question, Jawa!

I think "retro" is a bit of an intangible for me, it's more down to nostalgia, but a very paticular type of nostalgia. Very difficult to classify! I know there are dictionary defintions that Robot Boy™ (Hugo) will chime in with, but I'm all about them feels man

Would I class the PS3/360 as retro? I don't think I would, even though they don't make them anymore. Too recent and shiny.

The PS2/Xbox/Dreamcast/Gamecube generation? Nope, again still too recent for me, although a case could be made I suppose.

PS1/Xbox/N64? I get deeply satisfying waves of nostalgia whenever I hear the startup noises of the PS1, this for me is properly "in the feels" so I'd most likely class that as retro. The fact that its styling is also of a previous era certainly helps.

Pre-PS1/Xbox/N64 era is bonafide retro nostalgiaville, hook it up to my viens

That's how I feel about it.

[Corazon de Leon]

Chiming in with my two pennies on the "what is retro" chat, taken from a near-identical conversation in GGC:

As the machine is no longer being made, I guess the 360 could be classed as "retro" now?

An interesting question, Jawa!

I think "retro" is a bit of an intangible for me, it's more down to nostalgia, but a very paticular type of nostalgia. Very difficult to classify! I know there are dictionary defintions that Robot Boy™ (Hugo) will chime in with, but I'm all about them feels man

Would I class the PS3/360 as retro? I don't think I would, even though they don't make them anymore. Too recent and shiny.

The PS2/Xbox/Dreamcast/Gamecube generation? Nope, again still too recent for me, although a case could be made I suppose.

PS1/Xbox/N64? I get deeply satisfying waves of nostalgia whenever I hear the startup noises of the PS1, this for me is properly "in the feels" so I'd most likely class that as retro. The fact that its styling is also of a previous era certainly helps.

Pre-PS1/Xbox/N64 era is bonafide retro nostalgiaville, hook it up to my viens

That's how I feel about it.

My question is - would you have referred to the NES and Master System as retro in 2001 when the GameCube was released? Because that's how far removed we are from the Cube/Xbox/DC/PS2 era now.

[Preezy]

It's crazy I know. Good question though, I guess I would have classed them as retro as again the nostalgia factor is very high for that console generation. Nostalgia is basically the key driver for me, if I played something when I was a nipper it is retro. I know not everyone thinks that way but it works for me.

[Green Gecko]

The latest gc could be considered "new" at the age I'm now twice that age (14 X 2 = 28), so that's got to be retro surely.