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by IAmTheSaladMan » Thu May 04, 2017 6:14 pm

I know it's a very expensive bit of kit and only certain models are compatible with it but for the best picture on a GameCube should you not use the official component cable?
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by AndyXL » Thu May 04, 2017 6:51 pm

IAmTheSaladMan wrote:I know it's a very expensive bit of kit and only certain models are compatible with it but for the best picture on a GameCube should you not use the official component cable?


Possibly in the US, as they didn't have RGB scart and component was the equivalent to RGB.

But for the regular PAL TV during the GC era, RGB scart was the way to go (as most TVs didn't have component anyway).

Component was traditionally the US socket for TVs, RGB scart the European...

I don't think an official GC component cable was ever released in the UK.
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PostRe: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat
by IAmTheSaladMan » Thu May 04, 2017 6:58 pm

It wasn't released here but if your PAL GC is old enough i.e. the first batch of indigo or black systems it does have a digital A/V port with which I believe a Japanese component cable would work, but like I said they are becoming prohibitively expensive now. I suppose it depends what kind of display you are outputting to, I was using the standard GC SCART lead on a 1080p LCD flat screen TV so it looked kind of gooseberry fool even when you set the TV to display in the correct aspect ratio but had I forked out for the component cable I could have perhaps had it looking better.

There was an official component cable for Wii too which was actually released here and that got you a fantastic picture on an HDTV but they too are getting relatively expensive now.
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PostRe: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat
by AndyXL » Thu May 04, 2017 7:14 pm

IAmTheSaladMan wrote:It wasn't released here but if your PAL GC is old enough i.e. the first batch of indigo or black systems it has a digital A/V port with which I believe a Japanese component cable would work, but like I said they are becoming prohibitively expensive now. I suppose it depends what kind of display you are outputting to, I was using the standard GC SCART lead on a 1080p LCD flat screen TV so it looked kind of gooseberry fool even when you set the TV to display in the correct aspect ratio but had I forked out for the component cable I could have perhaps had it looking better.

There was an official component cable for Wii too which was actually released here and that got you a fantastic picture on an HDTV but they too are getting relatively expensive now.


Yeah - I have both the official Wii RGB Scart and Component cables. I used the RGB one on my CRT, and the Component on my flatscreen.

The standard GC scart would be dodgy on a flatscreen TV - you'll notice a huge difference is you use the official RGB scart cable cable (which did get a UK release)..
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PostRe: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat
by Green Gecko » Thu May 04, 2017 8:28 pm

Yes you can use JP Component cable for GameCube for the first version of the PAL machine that included the "Digital AV Out" connection but it's hellishly expensive and very few people make them.

Which is why I just use Wii for GameCube games and my original Cube (that does have the output) is used for GameBoy Player.
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by AndyXL » Thu May 04, 2017 8:39 pm

Changing the subject slightly, but staying on the theme of N64, I played through Wave Race 64 this evening.

Wow, what a game :-) It's just so playable, and it made me realise how, when a game is that playable, I really don't give two hoots about framerate etc.

It just feels perfect...the waves are incredible and the Jet-ski feels spot on.

Nintendo need to remake this game for Switch based on exactly the same engine and handling as the N64 one (GC Wave Race was nowhere near as good).
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by Green Gecko » Thu May 04, 2017 8:42 pm

I found WaveRace Blue Storm to just be too damn tight to turn and not very fun to play. Everything felt small and kooky. I've always liked the idea of jetskis though, is it just more fun?
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by AndyXL » Thu May 04, 2017 8:49 pm

Green Gecko wrote:I found WaveRace Blue Storm to just be too damn tight to turn and not very fun to play. Everything felt small and kooky. I've always liked the idea of jetskis though, is it just more fun?


N64 Wave Race is in a totally different league to GameCube Wave Race. The N64 game was made by Nintendo Japan, the GC version was outsourced to a US developer (I think NTSC or whatever they're called).

It lacked all the playability of the N64 version, and surprisingly, the waves were no where near as good, and didn't have as much an effect on the Jetskis as the N64 game. It's easy to tell that one is made by Nintendo, and the other isn't. The same goes for 1080 Snowboarding - N64 version was much better than the GV game.
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PostRe: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat
by Hound » Thu May 04, 2017 10:28 pm

The component cables are almost pointless if you are using a PAL machine as pretty much all PAL software had progressive scan mode disabled
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by BAKA » Fri May 12, 2017 12:18 pm

Saturn fans might enjoy Giant Bomb's Saturn stream that was on last night. I stayed up quite late watching this. :shifty:



Full list of the games they played:
BUG!
Virtua Fighter
Virtua Fighter Remix
Virtua Fighter 2
Panzer Dragoon
Robotica
Shanghai: Triple Threat
Clockwork Knight
Virtua Cop 2
Elevator Action Returns
Cyber Troopers Virtual On
Dead or Alive
Baku Baku Animal
X-Men VS Street Fighter
Vampire Savior: The Lord of Vampire
Marvel Super Heroes VS Street Fighter
Street Fighter: The Movie
Batman Forever The Arcade Game
Dragon Force
Daytona USA
Fighters Megamix

I really want Dragon Force. And a lot of Working Designs' Saturn releases. Crazy prices everywhere though. I wonder if we'll ever see Sega truly capitalise on the Saturn's back catalogue.
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PostRe: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat
by AndyXL » Fri May 12, 2017 1:20 pm

Just bought my 14th N64 game today - a mint and complete copy of Mario Kart 64! Don't ask how much it cost...

Yes, it's nowhere near as good as Super Mario Kart on the SNES, but it's still an N64 classic...and means I now have boxed copies of all Mario Karts, with the exception of Super Circuit!
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by Corazon de Leon » Fri May 12, 2017 1:31 pm

IMO Mario Kart 64 is the best of the lot - probably nostalgia based as much as anything else though. I'd love to see pics of your N64 collection when MK64 arrives!

I've modified my N64 collecting goals slightly - because I've managed to fairly cheaply pick up boxed copies of Mortal Kombat 4 and Mario Party 2(and both THPS games) I'd like to get boxed copies of the rest of those series' N64 outings. MK Trilogy and Mythologies won't be too expensive and neither will Mario Party, but Mario Party 3 is a monumentally priced game so I'll maybe save that for a while. :lol:
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by AndyXL » Fri May 12, 2017 2:39 pm

Corazon de Leon wrote:IMO Mario Kart 64 is the best of the lot - probably nostalgia based as much as anything else though. I'd love to see pics of your N64 collection when MK64 arrives!

I've modified my N64 collecting goals slightly - because I've managed to fairly cheaply pick up boxed copies of Mortal Kombat 4 and Mario Party 2(and both THPS games) I'd like to get boxed copies of the rest of those series' N64 outings. MK Trilogy and Mythologies won't be too expensive and neither will Mario Party, but Mario Party 3 is a monumentally priced game so I'll maybe save that for a while. :lol:


Yeah, I might take a photo of my collection when Mario Kart 64 arrives.

My N64 "collection goal" is 30 mint boxed games, including all the Nintendo and Rare classics. I'm now 14 down, with 16 to go. The most difficult and expensive games to get hold of (in the condition I want) will be Paper Mario, Mystical Ninja 2, and Conker's Bad Fur Day.
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by Corazon de Leon » Mon May 15, 2017 3:39 pm

Paper Mario goes for £70 unboxed and so does Conkers BFD - reckon you're looking at £150 for a good condition boxed copy. Good luck man!

Turns out my old Super NES works alright with a new plug in it. Which means I have a SSFII Turbo Edition SNES sitting there surplus to requirements...
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by AndyXL » Thu May 18, 2017 9:16 pm

A momentous day indeed!

With my purchase of Ocarina of Time on N64, I have completed my mint, boxed and complete Zelda collection (well, at least the main console games).

As usual, I had to over-pay to get the game in the condition I wanted, but Ocarina deserves nothing less :toot:

Edit - and I've officially reached 15 N64 games - half way to my target, in less than a year!
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by Preezy » Thu May 18, 2017 9:23 pm

Expecting a post on the Weekender thread showing off your complete collection then!
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by AndyXL » Thu May 18, 2017 9:53 pm

Preezy wrote:Expecting a post on the Weekender thread showing off your complete collection then!


Sadly some of my collection is in a different location (in a different country)!! I'll need to sort it out this year and get everything in one place. :toot:
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PostRe: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat
by Drumstick » Fri May 19, 2017 10:59 am

We were promised a pic of your mint N64 collection when it reached 15 games. :x
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PostRe: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat
by Drumstick » Fri May 19, 2017 11:01 am

I managed to start Viewtiful Joe at the weekend. It's pretty great isn't it? Kind of unusual but I love it! I'm at the first save point of Episode 2.
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PostRe: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat
by Preezy » Fri May 19, 2017 11:04 am

AndyXL wrote:
Preezy wrote:Expecting a post on the Weekender thread showing off your complete collection then!


Sadly some of my collection is in a different location (in a different country)!! I'll need to sort it out this year and get everything in one place. :toot:

Storing your collection in a Utah salt mine, eh? Very prudent.
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