GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

[Preezy]

Quoting for the top of the page

Ok so I took another look at the back of my TV (Panasonic TX-P50GT50B, in case you're interested) and there isn't any connectivity for scart or RGB directly into the unit. However, there is an RGB "interface" port which is a little green socket that has an image above it showing the regular AV/RGB cables, so I'm assuming this is where I would connect the SNES cables in (via an adapter). Had a look on eBay and found this:



Listing states it's for Panasonic plasmas, the connection looks the same as what my TV would accept, I assume that I'd plug the red/yellow/white SNES cables into this and that then goes into my TV?

I'm so gooseberry fool at this kinda stuff

[Lotus]

On the addictive nature of buying things, I tend to go through phases. Thankfully I'm not in one now, but I'll tend to find a particular genre or console where I suddenly think "Right, I need to buy everything I can related to this as quickly as possible and no matter the cost!", before going mental and buying all kinds of stuff. The last of these phases was Playstation/PS2 RPGs. Managed to find some bargains though and have a nice little collection now. If they're things you're looking to buy at some point anyway, I don't really see the harm. It's if you start paying over the odds for things or spending money you shouldn't be spending that it could become an issue. I always have a price in mind though and just make sure I don't go above it.

[Cumberdanes]

I used to buy up anything I thought I might play at some point if I saw it at a price I thought was fair. This didn't just apply to games either but books and DVDs/Blu Rays too. Before I moved out of my parent's house I had all this unplayed, unread, unwatched media in a pile in the corner I called stuff mountain but when I moved I wanted to travel light so began getting rid of most of it.

[Corazon de Leon]

When I was younger I'd just buy up anything and everything I was vaguely interested in. Now I tend to identify a collection of something that I'd like to have, and then make it happen over time and with a view to having good quality copies of the things I want. I've gone a bit overboard this month because my bonus came in, but once I've hit my spend limit I won't buy too many more games again until I've had a good play at the ones I've got now.

Ultimately, I would like to have a full PAL library of N64 cart games, but for now I'll concentrate on the games I actually want to play, plus the odd bargain where I find it.

[Hypes]

Condition: Good

[jawafour]

Condition: Good

Oh Hypes, man... how much did you pay for that? I came to learn that, on eBay, "good" doesn't mean anything remotely meriting the use of the word. I guess it was advertised without any pictures being available?

[Hypes]

Condition: Good

Oh Hypes, man... how much did you pay for that? I came to learn that, on eBay, "good" doesn't mean anything remotely meriting the use of the word. I guess it was advertised without any pictures being available?

No, I was just browsing and was tempted to put a bid on until I looked at the picture closely!

[jawafour]

No, I was just browsing and was tempted to put a bid on until I looked at the picture closely!

Phew! Spot-on, dude - it always pays to study the photos closely and, if you're in any doubt, just move on.

[Preezy]

I saw that one too when looking for a copy, bit cheeky!

[jawafour]

Inspired by the talk from you guys about looking for games in eBay, I've dipped my toes back into the water and made a quick few searches.

... .

Having been out of the retro buying scene for about five years, I hadn't realised just how crazy the pricing has got. I guess there are still a few great deals around, but it seems generally expensive now.

[Green Gecko]

Quoting for the top of the page

Ok so I took another look at the back of my TV (Panasonic TX-P50GT50B, in case you're interested) and there isn't any connectivity for scart or RGB directly into the unit. However, there is an RGB "interface" port which is a little green socket that has an image above it showing the regular AV/RGB cables, so I'm assuming this is where I would connect the SNES cables in (via an adapter). Had a look on eBay and found this:



Listing states it's for Panasonic plasmas, the connection looks the same as what my TV would accept, I assume that I'd plug the red/yellow/white SNES cables into this and that then goes into my TV?

I'm so gooseberry fool at this kinda stuff

The short answer is if the adapter fits your TV then yes it will work, however I think it's the wrong choice.

That's a component adapter (along with L/R stereo for audio) that looks like the TV is also wired to accept a composite video input via the green plug, hence the yellow band on it. There are commonalities between RGB SCART and Component but it's complicated. There might be a similar adapter for another socket on your TV, I'd be surprised if there was no solution for SCART at all. My Samsung TV has an adapter like this (but without the yellow band, there are actually dedicated composite inputs), that I use for Component on the Wii. There's another input that's a bit like a big USB-C connector (like smartphones), that locks in, and is what you could call "mini SCART". It's made by Samsung though for their TVs.

Plugging your SNES composite yellow/red/white cables into that adapter will work but you'll get a composite quality picture and it will probably look horrendous. See if your TV has an input for "multi AV" "mini SCART" or something like that, and see if you can find the adapter for it on eBay, then get a proper RGB SCART cable for your SNES.

Note that SCART and RGB look the same, there is an RGB "mode" for the SCART standard that splits the signal into red, green, blue. Both the console and the TV have to support the RGB mode and the SCART cable has to (at the very least) contain all the pins. What a SCART connection often does is just send composite video, and stereo audio. It was a way of simplifying connection between devices with lots of pins to do different things. RGB signal through a SCART socket is usually called "RGB SCART" together, but it's the exact same plug/socket design. You're not looking for any other kind of shape, they just tend to be better built. Cheap "SCART" cables are often missing about 80% of the pins including those necessary for RGB transmission, so watch out for that.

I'd be careful about shopping around for these as they're usually made by a manufacturer with very tight tolerances and slightly different plug sizes. It's not in any way standard.

This is what my TV has, I found out the product code from the TV manual that fortunately I had.



Maybe Panasonic do something similar.

Edit: Looking at this old review there IS a SCART adapter available for your TV. http://www.in.techradar.com/reviews/aud ... 005091.cms

If you can find that and get this cable https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/nin ... d-for-sale that's the best picture you can possibly get from a PAL SNES, forever.

[Drumstick]

Inspired by the talk from you guys about looking for games in eBay, I've dipped my toes back into the water and made a quick few searches.

... .

Having been out of the retro buying scene for about five years, I hadn't realised just how crazy the pricing has got. I guess there are still a few great deals around, but it seems generally expensive now.

What were you looking for?

[Preezy]

Quoting for the top of the page

Ok so I took another look at the back of my TV (Panasonic TX-P50GT50B, in case you're interested) and there isn't any connectivity for scart or RGB directly into the unit. However, there is an RGB "interface" port which is a little green socket that has an image above it showing the regular AV/RGB cables, so I'm assuming this is where I would connect the SNES cables in (via an adapter). Had a look on eBay and found this:



Listing states it's for Panasonic plasmas, the connection looks the same as what my TV would accept, I assume that I'd plug the red/yellow/white SNES cables into this and that then goes into my TV?

I'm so gooseberry fool at this kinda stuff

The short answer is if the adapter fits your TV then yes it will work, however I think it's the wrong choice.

That's a component adapter (along with L/R stereo for audio) that looks like the TV is also wired to accept a composite video input via the green plug, hence the yellow band on it. There are commonalities between RGB SCART and Component but it's complicated. There might be a similar adapter for another socket on your TV, I'd be surprised if there was no solution for SCART at all. My Samsung TV has an adapter like this (but without the yellow band, there are actually dedicated composite inputs), that I use for Component on the Wii. There's another input that's a bit like a big USB-C connector (like smartphones), that locks in, and is what you could call "mini SCART". It's made by Samsung though for their TVs.

Plugging your SNES composite yellow/red/white cables into that adapter will work but you'll get a composite quality picture and it will probably look horrendous. See if your TV has an input for "multi AV" "mini SCART" or something like that, and see if you can find the adapter for it on eBay, then get a proper RGB SCART cable for your SNES.

Note that SCART and RGB look the same, there is an RGB "mode" for the SCART standard that splits the signal into red, green, blue. Both the console and the TV have to support the RGB mode and the SCART cable has to (at the very least) contain all the pins. What a SCART connection often does is just send composite video, and stereo audio. It was a way of simplifying connection between devices with lots of pins to do different things. RGB signal through a SCART socket is usually called "RGB SCART" together, but it's the exact same plug/socket design. You're not looking for any other kind of shape, they just tend to be better built. Cheap "SCART" cables are often missing about 80% of the pins including those necessary for RGB transmission, so watch out for that.

I'd be careful about shopping around for these as they're usually made by a manufacturer with very tight tolerances and slightly different plug sizes. It's not in any way standard.

This is what my TV has, I found out the product code from the TV manual that fortunately I had.



Maybe Panasonic do something similar.

Edit: Looking at this old review there IS a SCART adapter available for your TV. http://www.in.techradar.com/reviews/aud ... 005091.cms

If you can find that and get this cable https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/nin ... d-for-sale that's the best picture you can possibly get from a PAL SNES, forever.

Thanks GG, I have ordered the component adapter as it was only a tenner and will at least let me start gaming, but I am definitely going to try and get a scart adapater as that's obviously going to give me the best results.

My search begins...

edit: in fact - if I got the SNES scart lead could I not then just get a cheap scart > HDMI adapter that would then plug into my TV's HDMI port?

[Jamo3103]

Quick question - anyone know how I'd replace the fuse in my SNES plug? Apparently that may be where the problem lies with mine not working.

There's a fair few YouTube tutorials, you'll need a soldering iron and a 1.5a fuse (plenty of them available on ebay for £1-2). It's a really easy job to do. I had to do mine last year when I took all my consoles apart to clean inside and forgot to drain the power on my SNES first

[jawafour]

What were you looking for?

I looked up the recent "sold" prices for the last couple of games that I bought through eBay; about five years ago. I got In The Hunt (PlayStation) for about £35 and it is now selling for over £100; and Knuckles Chaotix (32X) for £80 and it's now selling at over £200 .

[Lotus]

A few years back I got into the RetroCollect forum. A chap called megatrons_fury used to run a "Friday pic" thread where each (surprise!) Friday people would post a pic of some bit(s) of their retro collection and a (brief) background about it. It was good fun; both sharing something from your own collection and seeing what other folk have.

Perhaps that's something we could do in GR?

Shall we look at doing this then? Doesn't have to be a Friday of course, but something vaguely structured that keeps a regular flow of posts and gives some talking points about particular games or peripherals, etc.

It could be a recent purchase, or one of your favourite items, or just something you particularly want to show off/talk about.

Like show and tell for the retro club.

Is everyone interested, and if so, which day would we prefer?

[jawafour]

Shall we look at doing this then? Doesn't have to be a Friday of course, but something vaguely structured that keeps a regular flow of posts and gives some talking points about particular games or peripherals, etc... Is everyone interested, and if so, which day would we prefer?

Yeah, this sounds great, Lotus - maybe the weekend would be best i.e. when most folk may have the time and it gives us a two-day window?

[Cumberdanes]

I've posted photo's of what I had before but I sold on my GameCube collection a few months back including the console. There weren't any especially valuable titles aside from Chibi Robo which I actually made a profit on. I didn't really want to do it but I was short of cash and didn't really play the games outside of the occasional blast of Double Dash and Mario Power Tennis when I had friends over which is becoming increasingly rare now so they were just sat on my shelf collecting dust.

[Green Gecko]

Quoting for the top of the page

Ok so I took another look at the back of my TV (Panasonic TX-P50GT50B, in case you're interested) and there isn't any connectivity for scart or RGB directly into the unit. However, there is an RGB "interface" port which is a little green socket that has an image above it showing the regular AV/RGB cables, so I'm assuming this is where I would connect the SNES cables in (via an adapter). Had a look on eBay and found this:



Listing states it's for Panasonic plasmas, the connection looks the same as what my TV would accept, I assume that I'd plug the red/yellow/white SNES cables into this and that then goes into my TV?

I'm so gooseberry fool at this kinda stuff

The short answer is if the adapter fits your TV then yes it will work, however I think it's the wrong choice.

That's a component adapter (along with L/R stereo for audio) that looks like the TV is also wired to accept a composite video input via the green plug, hence the yellow band on it. There are commonalities between RGB SCART and Component but it's complicated. There might be a similar adapter for another socket on your TV, I'd be surprised if there was no solution for SCART at all. My Samsung TV has an adapter like this (but without the yellow band, there are actually dedicated composite inputs), that I use for Component on the Wii. There's another input that's a bit like a big USB-C connector (like smartphones), that locks in, and is what you could call "mini SCART". It's made by Samsung though for their TVs.

Plugging your SNES composite yellow/red/white cables into that adapter will work but you'll get a composite quality picture and it will probably look horrendous. See if your TV has an input for "multi AV" "mini SCART" or something like that, and see if you can find the adapter for it on eBay, then get a proper RGB SCART cable for your SNES.

Note that SCART and RGB look the same, there is an RGB "mode" for the SCART standard that splits the signal into red, green, blue. Both the console and the TV have to support the RGB mode and the SCART cable has to (at the very least) contain all the pins. What a SCART connection often does is just send composite video, and stereo audio. It was a way of simplifying connection between devices with lots of pins to do different things. RGB signal through a SCART socket is usually called "RGB SCART" together, but it's the exact same plug/socket design. You're not looking for any other kind of shape, they just tend to be better built. Cheap "SCART" cables are often missing about 80% of the pins including those necessary for RGB transmission, so watch out for that.

I'd be careful about shopping around for these as they're usually made by a manufacturer with very tight tolerances and slightly different plug sizes. It's not in any way standard.

This is what my TV has, I found out the product code from the TV manual that fortunately I had.



Maybe Panasonic do something similar.

Edit: Looking at this old review there IS a SCART adapter available for your TV. http://www.in.techradar.com/reviews/aud ... 005091.cms

If you can find that and get this cable https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/nin ... d-for-sale that's the best picture you can possibly get from a PAL SNES, forever.

Thanks GG, I have ordered the component adapter as it was only a tenner and will at least let me start gaming, but I am definitely going to try and get a scart adapater as that's obviously going to give me the best results.

My search begins...

edit: in fact - if I got the SNES scart lead could I not then just get a cheap scart > HDMI adapter that would then plug into my TV's HDMI port?

You could but native RGB will look better as cheap HDMI converters don't tend to be very good. To give you an idea, the Framemeister xRGB Mini that is considered the best for capturing a digital signal is over 100 quid. Let your TV do the work. You may as well spend the same money on that scart adapter for your TV and I bet the TV will do the upscaling OK.

HDMI converters are best spared for those (naff in my opinion, we all want options here) HDTVs that eschew every input but HDMI, because what sort of mad man would want to plug in electronics from the 90s??

[Preezy]

Ok GG, thanks again for all of the wisdom imparted so far