Government finally names the day for porn ban

LewisD wrote:I have a video of a woman shoving a vibrator down a guy's Jap eye repeatedly.

Should I get rid?

Cal wrote:Next up: the complete outlawing of all Manga comics and videos (already at the consultation stage in Parliament)....

Skarjo wrote:

Karlprof wrote:In the defence of paedophiles everywhere (no I'm not one of them) ...

Committing a crime (such as paedophilia) should, obviously, remain a crime. Producing an image of that crime should be a crime. Buying an image of that crime should be a crime. Redistributing an image of that crime should be a crime.

Raping a kid hurts that kidl. Producing an image of that crime glorifies (often for profit) the hurting of the kid. Buying an image funds the child rapists. Redistributing further humiliates that child and furthermore raises interest in whichever site produced it, potentially increasing their profits, yada yada.

I would, however, draw the line at possessing the image. Mere possession of an image doesn't hurt the child again, nor does fapping off to it. Yes, having a Maddy fetish or whatever is very weird, but being very weird shouldn't really land anyone in jail. The coppers should have to have evidence that you, be it by raping, selling snaps of the rape, buying snaps of the rape, or redistributing snaps of the rape, contributed in some way to that crime happening.

Fixed, to illustrate the logic doesn't follow. Surely people shouldn't be allowed to get away with something that horrific just because they were too cheap to pay for it and so sourced it illegally?

Not that it matters, this law is utterly unenforceable, and when they're having so much trouble trying to shut down actual paedophile rings, I can't think that your average kinky video will be high on anyone's to-do list.

Cal wrote:

Miss Lewis may have a point: the final commencement date was put out ten days ago in a Statutory Instrument published on November 15 – a Saturday. Police and the Prosecution Service do not yet appear to have had any further information on how the legislation should be applied – despite the fact that when CAAN first raised this issue, the Ministry of Justice assured us that [b]"further information about the offence" would be provided closer to the date of implementation[b/] and that they would "seek to give a significantly longer period of notice than two weeks".

El Diablo Rojo 52 wrote:What counts as possession? Ripping it off the website/downloading it from a torrent?

Just reading it, it sounds very vague and seems like the police could twist it how they want. Don't we have people to stand up for us and say 'That's going too far'?

El Diablo Rojo 52 wrote:What counts as possession? Ripping it off the website/downloading it from a torrent?

Just reading it, it sounds very vague and seems like the police could twist it how they want. Don't we have people to stand up for us and say 'That's going too far'?

Fatal Exception wrote:

El Diablo Rojo 52 wrote:What counts as possession? Ripping it off the website/downloading it from a torrent?

Just reading it, it sounds very vague and seems like the police could twist it how they want. Don't we have people to stand up for us and say 'That's going too far'?

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The government just does what it strawberry floating wants these days. I was tempted to start a "Lets storm parlement" facebook group Sadly they'd expect it and rape me under the terrorism act. Questioning big brother is an act of terrorism.

Karlprof wrote:Yes, having a goat fetish or whatever is very weird, but being very weird shouldn't really land anyone in jail.

jj_hunsecker wrote:What's the daily mail going to do now?

Ban this Sick Filth!

oh, wait, they already did...

Fatal Exception wrote:Actually it does follow the same logic. Surely finding images of child porn and having no part in the production of it is a victimless crime?

Note: I do not condone the ownership of child porn.

Karlprof wrote:

Fatal Exception wrote:Actually it does follow the same logic. Surely finding images of child porn and having no part in the production of it is a victimless crime?

Note: I do not condone the ownership of child porn.

Indeed. That stuff is, of course, ******* sick, but as long as you don't fall into the buyer or re-distributor categories I'm not sure possession of any image, even images as reprehensible as those described by Skarjo above, should be a crime.

That being said, if you're found with that sort of shite on your PC you should probably be made to see a shrink as something is wrong with you. Same could be said for the bestiality really. Still, outing and criminalising perhaps isn't fair.

EDIT: I wonder how many government watchlists I'm going to be put on for publicly stating such a hideously liberal opinion.

T9Flake wrote:

Cal wrote:Next up: the complete outlawing of all Manga comics and videos (already at the consultation stage in Parliament)....

Please tell me you're joking

jj_hunsecker wrote:try proving who distributed a torrent.

IRON NAN wrote:They won't be banning all manga/anime, just the hardcore/disgusting tentacle rape/GBH Bondage/night shift nurses kind of stuff. I doubt they're going to bust in and take your Love Hina, Naruto or Gundam yet alone your Ghibli movies.

As for why it's wrong to possess bestiality/child rape pictures, if someone has it then they must want it, if they want it then others will too and thus you have a demand. Where there's a demand they'll soon be a supply and that's what the government wants to stop.