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PostRe: GRcade E3 Conference Post-Mortems and GRcade LIVE Sign-ups
by Karl » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:34 pm

Cheeky Devlin wrote:Karl: The plan for the live segments is to have the pre-show chat, then stream the conferences as well. I'm going to do a test run of that at some point this week. Probably on my own channel when retro Mondays is being streamed. I'm not planning on doing any live commentary over it. I'll be too busy taking notes and watching it myself. Plus we run into the problem of everybody being out of sync with the actual conference. So you end up with some people being ahead of others and it ends up being a confusing mess with reveals being ruined. So just pre and post show commentary.


I'm not sure I get it -- wouldn't anyone watching our commentary be watching the conference kind of 'via' us, so how would we be out of sync? They'd get our reactions and what we reacted to at the same time, no? I don't actually really understand how Twitch works, so please tell me if I'm just wrong. :P (I understand you've thought about it and decided, that's totally fair enough, just interested in understanding more about what the problem would be. :) )

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PostRe: GRcade E3 Conference Post-Mortems and GRcade LIVE Sign-ups
by Pedz » Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:04 pm

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Cheeky Devlin wrote:Karl: The plan for the live segments is to have the pre-show chat, then stream the conferences as well. I'm going to do a test run of that at some point this week. Probably on my own channel when retro Mondays is being streamed. I'm not planning on doing any live commentary over it. I'll be too busy taking notes and watching it myself. Plus we run into the problem of everybody being out of sync with the actual conference. So you end up with some people being ahead of others and it ends up being a confusing mess with reveals being ruined. So just pre and post show commentary.


I'm not sure I get it -- wouldn't anyone watching our commentary be watching the conference kind of 'via' us, so how would we be out of sync? They'd get our reactions and what we reacted to at the same time, no? I don't actually really understand how Twitch works, so please tell me if I'm just wrong. :P (I understand you've thought about it and decided, that's totally fair enough, just interested in understanding more about what the problem would be. :) )


I think the people taking part would be out of sync when they are watching it, so say it's Devlin and you, you'r stream may be ahead of Devlin's.

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PostRe: GRcade E3 Conference Post-Mortems and GRcade LIVE Sign-ups
by Errkal » Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:10 pm

Cheeky Devlin wrote:
Errkal I am looking at integrating some form of audience participation. Even just getting people to comment on the show on twitter with a hashtag, or picking comments from the thread.


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by Cheeky Devlin » Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:15 pm

When streaming there is a delay between when something happens on my end to when it appears for a viewer. For example when you type something in chat that appears on our streams you'll notice that it takes some time for what you've typed to appear on the actual stream. If the participants of the live show were to watch the stream that I'm putting out then they would be constantly behind. That's why they should watch the official streams for these conferences instead of our restream.

In addition there's no way to sync up the conference streams so that we see things at exactly the same moment. For example I remember watching one of the Nintendo Directs with some of the others on mumble. While we were all watching the same stream, mine was a good ten-thirty seconds behind them. So I'd hear people talking about stuff that I'd not seen yet. It makes for a disconnected experience and doesn't sound good.

Hopefully that makes sense.

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by Errkal » Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:17 pm

Cheeky Devlin wrote:When streaming there is a delay between when something happens on my end to when it appears for a viewer. For example when you type something in chat that appears on our streams you'll notice that it takes some time for what you've typed to appear on the actual stream. If the participants of the live show were to watch the stream that I'm putting out then they would be constantly behind. That's why they should watch the official streams for these conferences instead of our restream.

In addition there's no way to sync up the conference streams so that we see things at exactly the same moment. For example I remember watching one of the Nintendo Directs with some of the others on mumble. While we were all watching the same stream, mine was a good ten-thirty seconds behind them. So I'd hear people talking about stuff that I'd not seen yet. It makes for a disconnected experience and doesn't sound good.

Hopefully that makes sense.


It does indeed, what it a few watch and record then the responses get cut into a video about it to be on YouTube after. Sort of GR E3 Gogglebox.

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by Karl » Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:28 pm

Cheeky Devlin wrote:Hopefully that makes sense.


Makes perfect sense now. Thanks for taking the time to explain. :wub:

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by Cheeky Devlin » Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:00 pm

Ok so I've updated the OP with the line-up so far.

We've less than a week to go till we kick this off and to be honest, unless I start getting more sign-ups I may not have enough people to go ahead with this.

So please if anyone is interested in taking part in either the live show or the post-mortem discussions can you let me know in the thread as soon as possible. Cheers guys.

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by Cheeky Devlin » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:59 am

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PostRe: GRcade E3 Conference Post-Mortems and GRcade LIVE Sign-ups - Participants Needed Urgently
by Karl » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:48 am

I'm sorry man, I'd maybe volunteer for more but Nintendo is the only conference I'll be really 'into', y'know? Seems pointless having someone that knows nothing about PlayStations sitting through the Sony conference, like.

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by Cheeky Devlin » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:51 am

That's fine man. I'm not wanting to make people do shows they're not interested in.

Though if I don't see an increase in participants in the next day or two I'm probably going to have to cancel the whole thing. There's no point if I can't get the numbers I need.

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by Trelliz » Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:10 pm

I could probably do EA, however I would be ambivalent towards everything except Need for Speed, which I would criticise and complain about nonstop.

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PostRe: GRcade E3 Conference Post-Mortems and GRcade LIVE Sign-ups - Participants Needed Urgently
by OrangeRakoon » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:38 pm

I'll be excitedly watching Ubi and Sony conferences too, but the post-mortem times are during work hours.

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by Cheeky Devlin » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:50 pm

If it's a time thing that's keeping people away then I can try to re-schedule some things, that's not an issue.

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by Trelliz » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:57 pm

Cheeky Devlin wrote:If it's a time thing that's keeping people away then I can try to re-schedule some things, that's not an issue.


I think that's the main limitation for people, and for us being on this side of the pond in general. I'd gladly do a delayed Microsoft discussion on wednesday and a Ubisoft one on Thursday, at say 8pm, however would that be too far after the fact?

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PostRe: GRcade E3 Conference Post-Mortems and GRcade LIVE Sign-ups - Participants Needed Urgently
by Super Dragon 64 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:37 pm

I'd take part in more if the timings were changed. I usually go to sleep at 11 and wake up at 5 for work which is why I've only put myself up for the EA one. I'd love to have taken part in the Nintendo one but I get home at 7/8 and I can't be sure that I'd have a good enough connection to watch it on the train so that I'm ready when I get home.

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by Jazzem » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:11 pm

I'd happily take part in either the Nintendo LIVE or post mortem, don't mind which :)

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PostRe: GRcade E3 Conference Post-Mortems and GRcade LIVE Sign-ups - Participants Needed Urgently
by Cheeky Devlin » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:24 pm

My main issue is that I want to get the recordings done as soon as possible. That way I'm not spending the whole week working on them like I did last year. Especially since I'm going away for a couple of nights on the Friday.

But I'm going to review the timings of some things tonight and see what I can arrange. Stay tuned for an update.

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by Trelliz » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:37 pm

I would love to stay up podcasting into the wee small hours, however that isn't possible for me now compared to previous years. It doesn't help that they seem to be even later in the evening compared to previous years.

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by Cheeky Devlin » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:46 pm

Yeah. Wasn't an issue last year, but there's been relatively little interest so far compared to then. I'm surprised actually as they went down really well I thought. I just want to avoid a situation where it's the same people talking on every single one. I liked that there was some variety in the line-ups.

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PostRe: GRcade E3 Conference Post-Mortems and GRcade LIVE Sign-ups - Participants Needed Urgently
by Karl » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:56 pm

I'm still up for any of the Nintendo stuff, even if some of the other conference analyses don't end up happening. :)


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