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PostRe: RE: Re: RE: Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by Hyperion » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:02 am

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shadow202 wrote:Did Bellew really call out AJ after the fight? That's embarrassing he couldn't finish a properly strawberry floated Haye he'd have no chance of hurting AJ


No

Did he really not because one of my mates text me saying that Bellew called him out for his next fight.


He's been saying something about having respect for AJ, definitely didn't call him out

Cool. I'm going to text my mate here and call him a knob lol. Who do you guys on here think Bellew will fight next?


Haye at Goodison probably.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by PurplePenguin » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:03 am

It depends really in some ways if you come up from cruiserweight and manage to get a shot at a heavyweight title even if you lose it's pretty much a free shot. No one expects him to win everyone knows he's a cruiserweight so it's basically a nice big payday for Bellew and one in the win column for AJ. AJ will definitely defend the IBF and WBA 2-3 times before any unification fight.

At least the Heavyweight division after some time is starting to get interesting again.

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PostRe: RE: Re: RE: Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:07 am

Hyperion wrote:
shadow202 wrote:
Skippy wrote:
shadow202 wrote:
Hyperion wrote:
shadow202 wrote:Did Bellew really call out AJ after the fight? That's embarrassing he couldn't finish a properly strawberry floated Haye he'd have no chance of hurting AJ


No

Did he really not because one of my mates text me saying that Bellew called him out for his next fight.


He's been saying something about having respect for AJ, definitely didn't call him out

Cool. I'm going to text my mate here and call him a knob lol. Who do you guys on here think Bellew will fight next?


Haye at Goodison probably.


Would he not need to defend his cruiserweight title though before they strip him for not defending it?

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PostRe: RE: Re: RE: Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by Hyperion » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:09 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
Hyperion wrote:
shadow202 wrote:
Skippy wrote:
shadow202 wrote:
Hyperion wrote:
shadow202 wrote:Did Bellew really call out AJ after the fight? That's embarrassing he couldn't finish a properly strawberry floated Haye he'd have no chance of hurting AJ


No

Did he really not because one of my mates text me saying that Bellew called him out for his next fight.


He's been saying something about having respect for AJ, definitely didn't call him out

Cool. I'm going to text my mate here and call him a knob lol. Who do you guys on here think Bellew will fight next?


Haye at Goodison probably.


Would he not need to defend his cruiserweight title though before they strip him for not defending it?


I'd have thought so but he seemed to indicate he just wanted to go after big money now

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by PurplePenguin » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:10 am

He might, he could give it up I mean he's not fighting for titles now by the looks of things. He's pretty much gone as far as possible in cruiserweight there's no big money spinners for him. He's looking for names now and a few big box office fights in the UK are probably the way to go.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by shadow202 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:10 am

He is just right because this is really the first time in his career he has been in mainstream media and he should cash in on it while he can.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by PurplePenguin » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:13 am

The jump from cruiserweight to heavyweight is the hardest one to make as you can be taking on guys 2-3 stone heavier. I mean haye was a 1.5 stones heavier and he's small himself for a heavyweight.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by PurplePenguin » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:17 am

I wonder if we might see a Bellew v Whyte fight. Winner gets to face AJ.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by Ste » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:17 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
shadow202 wrote:Bellew showed he's a shite fighter because he should have finished his fight in the 5th round and should never have let it get near the 11th round. Haye was strawberry floated and just keep trying to throw really slow power shots which Bellew seen coming a mile off.


I agree. Bellew is not excellent.

Five live are going mad now about haye's trainers. Calling him a fool for wearing them as they have no support.


A shite fighter?!

While I dont doubt that the Haye of 5 years ago would have won comfortably Bellew was fighting as light heavyweight a few years ago, has now won a cruiserweight title, and just beat a heavyweight when not many people gave him a chance. (I won £130!)

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by PurplePenguin » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:19 am

To be fair though Haye was seriously injured for half of the fight. I would say Haye was ahead leading up to that and would have beaten him if he could use his feet.

Looking at it maybe Bellew could fight the winner of (Hughie) Fury v Parker.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by Ste » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:23 am

While Haye might have been edging it in the first 5/6 rounds if he didnt manage to knock Bellew out in that time, which he didnt, he was always likely to struggle in the second half of the fight.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by PurplePenguin » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:27 am

Ste wrote:While Haye might have been edging it in the first 5/6 rounds if he didnt manage to knock Bellew out in that time, which he didnt, he was always likely to struggle in the second half of the fight.


I can only judge it how I saw it and for me Bellew was the one backing off for five rounds and Haye was pursuing, making good shots to the body he looked like the one in the better shape. Once Haye's ankle went the fight turned completely. Haye was actually making the better combinations before that and Bellew was that knackered he couldnt even finish off a fighter with one leg.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by Ste » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:32 am

I think Bellew's plan was always just to get to the second half of the fight.

I agree Bellew was also tired and seemed to take longer than what he needed to get Haye out after the injury but once it happened there was no need to rush into it.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by PurplePenguin » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:32 am

This is one of the commentators on BBC Round Five:


There's a look of menace and confidence about David Haye. He has a look of experience. You can see him thinking 'it's just a matter of time'.

I am impressed with Haye.



Then he gets injured and the fight is over for him.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by Ste » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:35 am

Bellew took everything Haye threw at him before the injury.

EDIT: Im not particularly disputing Haye might have won just the opinion Bellew is a "shite fighter".

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by PurplePenguin » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:36 am

To be fair he didnt take a lot because he didn't engage him. He was backing off probably hoping he could tire Haye out as you say but really for five rounds he didn't do anything.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by Ste » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:41 am

See edit!

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by PurplePenguin » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:58 am

No he's not a shite fighter. He's just been fighting in a division where there's not a lot of big names at the moment so his achievements have gone under the radar.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by Irene Demova » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:39 am

The 209 prelims have been better than anything on 208. Two ridiculous comebacks

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
by Irene Demova » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:51 am

Please be another draw :lol:

Neither is remotely limited but they perfectly neutralize each other


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