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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 203 09/10: CM Punk makes first & last MMA appearance
by Brerlappin » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:34 pm

Literally nothing of value lost to boxing. How that strawberry floating clown ever got as far as he did is beyond me

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 203 09/10: CM Punk makes first & last MMA appearance
by Skippy » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:15 pm



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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 203 09/10: CM Punk makes first & last MMA appearance
by ladybayred » Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:54 pm

Brerlappin wrote:That's wonderful. Just one other question tho, how many other 155ers has Conor beat to get the LW title shot? Actually how many fights total has he had at 155? Must be quite a few to get a title shot, right?


Marquee super fights don't follow those rules (there aren't any actual rules). If GSP had stepped up to fight Anderson would he have had to fight 185 a couple of times first? Would Jones have to have done the same at HW. If DJ wants to challenge Cruz tomorrow will he have to clear the division first? No thought not.





Lucien wrote:Technically, but there'll be a Manhattan-sized asterisk next to his name and the "155 champion" label would be treated (rightfully) as shady by sports fans.


*Technically* there wont. Only the tears of bitter haters. I don't care who wins - I just like seeing big fights and seeing a champ step up a weight class should be respected.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 203 09/10: CM Punk makes first & last MMA appearance
by Brerlappin » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:54 am

ladybayred wrote:
Brerlappin wrote:That's wonderful. Just one other question tho, how many other 155ers has Conor beat to get the LW title shot? Actually how many fights total has he had at 155? Must be quite a few to get a title shot, right?


Marquee super fights don't follow those rules (there aren't any actual rules). If GSP had stepped up to fight Anderson would he have had to fight 185 a couple of times first? Would Jones have to have done the same at HW. If DJ wants to challenge Cruz tomorrow will he have to clear the division first? No thought not.





Lucien wrote:Technically, but there'll be a Manhattan-sized asterisk next to his name and the "155 champion" label would be treated (rightfully) as shady by sports fans.


*Technically* there wont. Only the tears of bitter haters. I don't care who wins - I just like seeing big fights and seeing a champ step up a weight class should be respected.


So your answer is, 0 fights at lightweight, 0 previous wins at lightweight, yet somehow deserving of a lightweight title shot over all of the actual lightweights who have fought and competed for a LW title shot for years.

Yeah, makes sense. Give him a WW shot next, maybe LHW after that? Thatd make a nice poster for your bedroom! Connie Mac with FOUR belts!! *Swoon*

And there already is an asterisk over his career. He had the easiest road to a FW title shot of anyone, and now if he does get the LW belt, he gets it without having a single FW defense? Yeah cause that's what real champions do right? Sure, maybe in the strawberry floatin WWE.
Hes been strawberry floating babied because he makes money. End of. He got his gooseberry fool destroyed by a Diaz bro who walked off a party boat and into the octagon on 11 days notice. Never defended any of his CW titles either. He's just an over hyped loudmouth that appeals to casual plebs.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 203 09/10: CM Punk makes first & last MMA appearance
by Mafro » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:45 am

Brerlappin wrote:He's just an over hyped loudmouth that appeals to casual plebs.

I saw someone the other day describe him as the Kardashians for white men :lol:

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 203 09/10: CM Punk makes first & last MMA appearance
by Brerlappin » Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:13 am

Mafro wrote:
Brerlappin wrote:He's just an over hyped loudmouth that appeals to casual plebs.

I saw someone the other day describe him as the Kardashians for white men :lol:


Holy gooseberry fool that's good :lol:

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 203 09/10: CM Punk makes first & last MMA appearance
by Rocsteady » Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:18 am

Although Fury does have more skill than many people give him credit for and a surprising amount of boxing nous, it is crazy that the most prestigious title in boxing is held by him. Was actually glad when he won to finally break the Klitchkos' monotonous reign at the top but the guy is a total knob. Sounds like he'll be back in the not too distant future anyway, assuming he can pull his gooseberry fool together a bit.

I think Klitchko would be a step too far for AJ at this point but would be happy to be proven wrong.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 203 09/10: CM Punk makes first & last MMA appearance
by ladybayred » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:27 am

Brerlappin wrote:So your answer is, 0 fights at lightweight, 0 previous wins at lightweight, yet somehow deserving of a lightweight title shot over all of the actual lightweights who have fought and competed for a LW title shot for years.

Yes - because he's a champion. But we are going round in circles here.

Brerlappin wrote:Yeah, makes sense. Give him a WW shot next, maybe LHW after that? Thatd make a nice poster for your bedroom! Connie Mac with FOUR belts!! *Swoon*

If he did that it would be the greatest achievement in sporting history.

Brerlappin wrote:And there already is an asterisk over his career. He had the easiest road to a FW title shot of anyone, and now if he does get the LW belt, he gets it without having a single FW defense? Yeah cause that's what real champions do right? Sure, maybe in the strawberry floatin WWE.

Yeah what you've put there is possibly the most retarded thing I've ever read.

Win 19–2 José Aldo
Win 18–2 Chad Mendes
Win 17–2 Dennis Siver
Win 16–2 Dustin Poirier
Win 15–2 Diego Brandão
Win 14–2 Max Holloway
Win 13–2 Marcus Brimage

Denis Siver aside that is some list.


Champion : Conor McGregor
1 Jose Aldo (Interim Champion - won once since losing to Connor in emphatic fashion)
2 Frankie Edgar (coming off a loss)
3 Max Holloway (9 fight win streak - the one man for me with a legitimate claim)
4 Ricardo Lamas (just lost to max)
5 Cub Swanson (not fought Connor, on a 2 fight win streak but lost previously to Frankie and Holloway)
6 Anthony Pettis
7 Jeremy Stephens
8 Charles Oliveira
9 Dennis Bermudez
10 Brian Ortega

The only ranked people with legitimate claims to a title shot Connor has already beaten.

Brerlappin wrote:Hes been strawberry floating babied because he makes money. End of. He got his gooseberry fool destroyed by a Diaz bro who walked off a party boat and into the octagon on 11 days notice. Never defended any of his CW titles either.


Again your theory holds no water. He's not been babied (outlined above) and the reason he makes so much money is because he turns up to fight and puts on a show every time he's in the octagon.

The only time the UFC has caved into Connor's demands is with the rematch with Nate - a fight its worth mentioning Connor won against a man who on the night had 20lbs on him. The first fight with Nate was a late replacement.

The UFC wanted this Alvarez fight because its the biggest scrap it could put on for its first event in NY.

Brerlappin wrote:He's just an over hyped loudmouth that appeals to casual plebs.


That's probably the smuggest, most arrogant thing I've ever read.

I just don't understand your absolute hate for Connor and his undeserving title shot when this weekend Dan Henderson a man rankined 13th in the division and riding a massive 1 fight win streak is going against Bisping for the belt.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 203 09/10: CM Punk makes first & last MMA appearance
by Rocsteady » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:32 pm

I do actually think that McGregor's a better fighter than many on here give him credit for. He's not some Godlike entity, and I can't forgive a few people on my Fb feed comparing him to Ali, but he's definitely one of the stars of fighting from the last few years, even stripping away all the PR bullshit.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 203 09/10: CM Punk makes first & last MMA appearance
by Lonestar » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:30 pm

Regarding Conor's record.

Brimage & Brandao were never any good so lets not go there. Holloway at the time was not at the level he is now, and Mendes took the fight on 2 weeks notice.

The Poirier & Aldo wins are impressive, but lets be honest, both men were mentally broken before the fights even began and both fought stupid fights.

The Diaz fights exposed Conor's game big time. Although credit goes to Conor & Dana for constantly mentioning the fictional weight difference, the casual fan has really bought into that.

Hopefully Alvarez gets the win but his chin worries me, and Conor hits really strawberry floating hard...

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 204 09/10 Bisping v Hendo 2: Loser Leaves Town
by Brerlappin » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:50 pm

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by Brerlappin » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:13 pm

Rocsteady wrote:I do actually think that McGregor's a better fighter than many on here give him credit for. He's not some Godlike entity, and I can't forgive a few people on my Fb feed comparing him to Ali, but he's definitely one of the stars of fighting from the last few years, even stripping away all the PR bullshit.


Hes definitely talented. No doubt about it. I give him credit for that, but hes also way, way overhyped and doesn't have a record to back up the hype.
Look at Mighty Mouse, Cruz, or Jon Jones, as much of a scumbag as he is. Dominant, dominant champions. Jones has dismantled a whos who of the LHW division. The people hes beaten are practically a murderers row of the best of the LHW division. Mighty Mouse literally looks invincible. Like hes activated a strawberry floating cheat mode or something. Cruz is a god damn magician. Any of these guys moving up or down a weight class would be a superfight. If you want to make a superfight it needs to be with Champions that are proven, Alvarez Mcgregor isn't a superfight, its 2 guys who are 0 - 0 for title defenses, where one guy knows he can make a shitload of cash win or lose, and the other can pick up a 2nd belt. That's all. Will it be entertaining? sure. Does it make sense? None at all. If you want a real superfight, make MM fight Cruz. There you go, 2 dominant champions, both have never lost in the UFC (Cruz only dropping his title through injury), both riding massive win streaks.

Bisping V Hendo is equally dumb, but at least theres a backstory there, and the threat of Hendo retiring as a champ, or Bisping avenging a brutal KO. I don't agree with it but at least it makes slightly more sense than Alvarez Mcgregor. Realistically these are just "sports entertainment" fights, with a heavy emphasis on entertainment and not so much on sports. Its making a mockery of ranks and belts, everyone just wants money fights, and its honestly the kind of WWE horseshit I cant stand. Manufactured beefs with fighters, smack talk, all that gooseberry fool. I like a good villain to root against once in a while but not if it means everyone in the entire sport just says "strawberry float it, let me fight him cause ill get rich, screw the belts and the P4P ranking".
Its not Conors fault, if the UFC paid better they wouldn't be in this situation. But they've given in to him at almost every opportunity and let it get like this, and what are uninteresting journeymen like Alvarez gonna do when Conor retires? I'm sick of these guys shouting "CONOR FITE ME" for a payday. Youre the strawberry floating LW Champ, youre supposed to be the money fight people clamour for.

The McGregor era truly is the darkest timeline of the UFC

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 203 09/10: CM Punk makes first & last MMA appearance
by Rocsteady » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:29 pm

Brerlappin wrote:
Rocsteady wrote:I do actually think that McGregor's a better fighter than many on here give him credit for. He's not some Godlike entity, and I can't forgive a few people on my Fb feed comparing him to Ali, but he's definitely one of the stars of fighting from the last few years, even stripping away all the PR bullshit.


Hes definitely talented. No doubt about it. I give him credit for that, but hes also way, way overhyped and doesn't have a record to back up the hype.
Look at Mighty Mouse, Cruz, or Jon Jones, as much of a scumbag as he is. Dominant, dominant champions. Jones has dismantled a whos who of the LHW division. The people hes beaten are practically a murderers row of the best of the LHW division. Mighty Mouse literally looks invincible. Like hes activated a strawberry floating cheat mode or something. Cruz is a god damn magician. Any of these guys moving up or down a weight class would be a superfight. If you want to make a superfight it needs to be with Champions that are proven, Alvarez Mcgregor isn't a superfight, its 2 guys who are 0 - 0 for title defenses, where one guy knows he can make a shitload of cash win or lose, and the other can pick up a 2nd belt. That's all. Will it be entertaining? sure. Does it make sense? None at all. If you want a real superfight, make MM fight Cruz. There you go, 2 dominant champions, both have never lost in the UFC (Cruz only dropping his title through injury), both riding massive win streaks.

Bisping V Hendo is equally dumb, but at least theres a backstory there, and the threat of Hendo retiring as a champ, or Bisping avenging a brutal KO. I don't agree with it but at least it makes slightly more sense than Alvarez Mcgregor. Realistically these are just "sports entertainment" fights, with a heavy emphasis on entertainment and not so much on sports. Its making a mockery of ranks and belts, everyone just wants money fights, and its honestly the kind of WWE horseshit I cant stand. Manufactured beefs with fighters, smack talk, all that gooseberry fool. I like a good villain to root against once in a while but not if it means everyone in the entire sport just says "strawberry float it, let me fight him cause ill get rich, screw the belts and the P4P ranking".
Its not Conors fault, if the UFC paid better they wouldn't be in this situation. But they've given in to him at almost every opportunity and let it get like this, and what are uninteresting journeymen like Alvarez gonna do when Conor retires? I'm sick of these guys shouting "CONOR FITE ME" for a payday. Youre the strawberry floating LW Champ, youre supposed to be the money fight people clamour for.

The McGregor era truly is the darkest timeline of the UFC

Good post. I'd not actually seen Cruz fight before, had a watch of a few videos of his on YouTube and it's pretty crazy, boy's got some skills like.



I do think the shitty pay in ufc's a major factor behind this, no-one's making a nest egg for themselves unless they're at the very top of their division and manage to be big box office. Considering the amount of work put into it and the average length of careers it's an absolutely outrage. Boxing's strawberry floated but at least many boxers at the top can still retire for life with a couple of decent investments.

Speaking of which, Tyson Fury's done. The guy's a total knob but I wouldn't wish his problems on anyone. Can't see him ever stepping foot in a ring again, and hopefully in time that helps him with his mental health issues.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 204 09/10 Bisping v Hendo 2: Loser Leaves Town
by Lotus » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:36 am

Fury seems like a real moron, but he's clearly not right in the head either. Hopefully something can be done to help him and other boxers with mental health issues.

Also, Josh Samman confirmed dead at 28. Real shame, seemed like a decent guy when I watched him on TUF.

And Cormier vs Rumble 2 booked for UFC 206, along with Werdum vs. Cain on December 30th.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 204 09/10 Bisping v Hendo 2: Loser Leaves Town
by Saint of Killers » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:32 am

No UFC 204 chatter?

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 204 09/10 Bisping v Hendo 2: Loser Leaves Town
by Monkey Man » Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:00 pm

UFC 204 - Just about deserved win for Bisping, was in trouble with a couple of shots but put in more over the 5 rounds.

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by Mafro » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:20 pm

Saint of Killers wrote:No UFC 204 chatter?

Wasn't really bothered about it. Dumb main event put together due to nostalgia and the biggest PPV they've done in the UK happening at stupid o'clock in the morning to pander to America.

At least the main event sounded decent.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 204 09/10 Bisping v Hendo 2: Loser Leaves Town
by Lotus » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:34 pm

Only watched the main event, but was pleased to see Bisping win. He's now overtaken GSP to have to most wins in the UFC.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 204 09/10 Bisping v Hendo 2: Loser Leaves Town
by Rocsteady » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:38 pm

Bisping's post match interview :lol:

Great fight, Bisping can recover from a punch incredibly well. The fact he made it through the first two rounds is amazing.

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PostRe: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 204 09/10 Bisping v Hendo 2: Loser Leaves Town
by Brerlappin » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:34 pm

Rocsteady wrote:Bisping's post match interview :lol:

Great fight, Bisping can recover from a punch incredibly well. The fact he made it through the first two rounds is amazing.


Yeah whether you like him or not you can't deny Bisping must be one of the toughest mummy strawberry floaters in the UFC. Recovering from 2 H-bombs isn't something many people can do. Between that and surviving the Silva knee, he's been in some serious wars.

Loved that post fight rant too :lol:

That Jimi Manuwa KO was strawberry floating evil too. OSP collapsed like someone unplugged him


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