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Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:45 pm
by Lotus
If anyone hasn't seen it it's worth checking out the Michael Chandler vs Benson Henderson fight from Bellator at the weekend. Weird seeing the photo of Scott Coker, Fedor, Rory MacDonald and GSP at the event as well...

In other news, I saw that Bisping's next title defence is against Romero next year. Anothing strawberry floating drug cheat. :lol: :fp:

And Ronda's movie projects have been canned; one because they had doubts about her acting, and the other because of the script needing re-doing or something. :lol: She's blatantly going to end up in the WWE or something.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:38 pm
by Banjo
Ah yes, I saw Fast & Furious 7 with Falsey when it came out. Holy gooseberry fool Ronda was appalling in it, proper The Room levels of bad.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:49 pm
by Rocsteady
You've not seen FF7 brer?! gooseberry fool's a bona-fide masterpiece

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:17 pm
by Mafro
Cormier out of UFC 206 :fp:

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:03 pm
by Return_of_the_STAR
Haye v Bellew march 4th at the O2. Fighting at heavyweight. Looking forward to Bellew getting knocked out.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:37 am
by Rocsteady
Haye seems to have a route back to the top mapped out, at least until AJ's superior power probably does for him. He was always a skilled boxer but think that's still a further damning inditement of the current heavyweight boxing scene.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:46 am
by Rocsteady
Yeah that was a bit much :lol:

Was rooting for him in that fight though, was constantly looking forward to the downfall of the Klitchko brothers due to their mind-numbing, albeit effective, style.

Also I got my FF films mixed up, 5's the genuine classic :shifty:

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:14 pm
by Lotus
Conor McGregor is no longer a two-division world champion. At least, according to the UFC.

The Irishman, who also holds the UFC lightweight belt, has relinquished given up his featherweight title, the UFC announced Saturday night during the UFC Fight Night 101 broadcast.

Although the UFC says McGregor has given up the featherweight belt voluntarily, sources told MMA Fighting's Ariel Helwani that McGregor never agreed to that decision. Regardless, the UFC has the right to strip the belt from McGregor.

Jose Aldo, who won the interim title back at UFC 200 in July, defeating Frankie Edgar, will now take McGregor's belt and become the undisputed 145-pound champion.

Additionally, it was announced that Anthony Pettis vs. Max Holloway will now serve as the main event of UFC 206, replacing the light heavyweight title fight between Daniel Cormier and Anthony Johnson. Pettis and Holloway will battle for the interim featherweight title in the main event of UFC 206, which takes place on Dec. 10 in Toronto, Canada.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/11/26/1 ... ight-title

:fp:

The whole thing is a strawberry floating joke. I sound like a broken record, but:

1) Why has Conor been allowed to go a year without defending the Featherweight belt
2) Why has Aldo not been given a rematch.
3) Why was Conor allowed to dick around fighting Diaz - twice - rather than defending his belt.
4) Why the strawberry float as Pettis and Holloway fighting for an Interim belt? Why not just the #1 contender position?

Blows my mind how they've strawberry floated up the Featherweight and Lightweight divisions just to pander to what Conor wants and to follow the $. Such a strawberry floating joke.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:21 am
by Grumpy David
Also, the article says Aldo is now undisputed FW belt holder.

I would dispute that.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:19 pm
by Return_of_the_STAR
I don't understand why you have to have interim title holders and undisputed title holders. Why not just have a vacant title and pick the two people you think deserve a shot fight it out?

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:31 pm
by Mafro
The belts mean strawberry float all now, especially after the takeover.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:27 pm
by zXe

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:52 pm
by ladybayred
Lotus wrote:1) Why has Conor been allowed to go a year without defending the Featherweight belt

Well technically its not been a year since he beat Aldo (Dec 12, 2015). Also before Aldo fought Connor he hadn't defended his belt for 14 months.

So Connor was originally scheduled to fight RDA 4 months after beating Aldo (UFC 196, March) but RDA pulled out so we got Connor v Diaz 1 as a late replacement to save the card (can hardly criticise Connor for this). By losing you could hardly put Connor in with RDA for the belt next.
In July Aldo beat Edgar to earn the interim belt.
In August Connor was ready to fight and with no legitimate featherweight challenger (Aldo obviously not available) and with Alvarez having only won the lightweight belt in July, Connor could hardly challenge him. So arguably the Diaz rematch was the only fight to make.

You could make the case at 206 Connor should of fought Aldo instead of Alvarez but in fairness - it was still less than a year since Connor so decisively beat Aldo there was little interest in the rematch compared to Connor getting the shot at the lightweight title he was originally meant to get.
Also, seeing how easily Connor beat Alvarez, do you honestly think Aldo would of stood a chance?


Will leave this here:

http://prommanow.com/2016/06/06/hit-or-miss-10-ridiculously-long-ufc-title-reigns-with-the-least-defenses/ wrote:#1 Daniel Cormier
The next big thing was supposed to be Daniel Cormier and while we will admit he is a good fighter he hasn’t defended his title like fans hoped. The light heavyweight title is one of the most coveted in the company by loyal viewers and DC has only given us 1 defense in 380 days. That’s over a year and unforgivable when you consider the champs in the past and how they actively defended it.
#2 Matt Hughes second title run
For the longest time, before Georges St. Pierre, Matt Hughes was called the greatest UFC champion to ever step in to The Octagon, but on his second reign he fell short. After losing to BJ Penn in shocking fashion, Hughes would eventually regain the belt and defend it proudly…with 2 defenses in a whopping 757 days. That’s once a year when you break it down.
#3 Matt Serra
After crushing GSP in devastating fashion we expected Serra to defend his welterweight title against all comers, but the UFC did not want it that way. Realizing that their cash cow welterweight king GSP needed to be headlining PPV’s again, and knowing he would defeat Matt, they made Serra wait for a rematch, which gave us 378 days with no defenses.
#4 Anthony Pettis
This one is ridiculous. Pettis was also the next big thing in the lightweight division, except nope. After winning the belt he held it 560 days with only one defense to his credit.
#5 Dominick Cruz first run
Look up injury prone in the dictionary and it says “See Dominick Cruz”. Mr. Cruz held the bantamweight championship for 1,117 days and only defended it twice. That’s once every eighteen months…
#6 Cain Velasquez second run
When Velasquez regained his heavyweight title he managed to defend it only twice in 896 days. That’s once every 14 months! His first run was 385 days with ZERO defenses making this entry a thorough disappointment.
#7 Rampage Jackson
Another one and done here. Quinton Rampage Jackson defeated Chuck Liddell and defended the light heavyweight championship once in 406 days translating to one of the least memorable championship reigns in light heavyweight history.
#8 Sean Sherk
Not to be outdone by Jackson, lightweight champion Sean Sherk defended his title only once in 420 days. Mix that with a failed drug test and most fans of today couldn’t tell you who he was which is a shame.
#9 Rafael Dos Anjos
RDA is the current lightweight champion and he has been the champ for 450 days with a single defense to his obligatory Wikipedia entry. Should he lose to his next opponent he may go the way of champions in the past who clung to their title without defending it as long as they could.
#10 Shogun Rua
The “greatest light heavyweight in the world” in his Pride days, according to hardcore PrideFC fans, never defended his title in almost a full year and when he did he got destroyed by Jon Jones. Rua will go down as the champ who should have been more, and given us more as fans.


Lotus wrote:2) Why has Aldo not been given a rematch.

Apart from 206 when it wasn't the money fight to make - Aldo and Connor's fight calendars didn't sync up for them to meet be it because one had just fought or Aldo needed to fight Edgar to gain any hint of legitimacy for a rematch

Lotus wrote:3) Why was Conor allowed to dick around fighting Diaz - twice - rather than defending his belt.

As explained above, at no point when Connor fought Diaz twice was there a legitimate challenger who was available to fight.

Lotus wrote:4) Why the strawberry float as Pettis and Holloway fighting for an Interim belt? Why noAs ext just the #1 contender position?

Yeah I have no idea why this is the case. The only argument for a interim belt over fighting for a no1 contender is that a interim belt feels like even more of a lock.


Connor gets far too much hate around here he entirely undeserving of. He's not ducked anybody and has legitimately won gold at two weight classes. He is significantly more active than most of the top stars in the sport (Aldo average less than 2 fights per year). Enjoy the ride, he wont be around for long.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:01 pm
by Mafro
ladybayred wrote:Enjoy the ride, he wont be around for long.

Hope so.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:15 am
by zXe
Conor still claims he's the two-way world champion :lol:

“[The UFC are] trying to strip me and I was like, ‘Well, I ain’t stripped. I still got that belt, that belt is still at home right now’,” McGregor said, at a Q&A event. “I’m still the two-way world champion, someone has to come take that from me. I see articles, I see stuff online, but I don’t see the belt not in my presence. The belt is right there, there’s two world titles at my home.

“Eddie [Alvarez] is still unconscious, what do you mean? I only fought last week. Them belts are mine. Whatever they want to say, and they can say, ‘Oh we took the belt and now it’s this guy’s belt,’ you can play with those fake belts all you want. Jose was KO’ed, Eddie was KO’ed, you’re looking at the two-weight world champion and that’s it. I’ll say to the UFC, and I love their company, you’re fooling nobody, you’re fooling nobody with that.

“But best of luck to them, I still got them belts. Someone’s got to come take those belts from me, physically. Not online, not through a keyboard. The keyboard warriors trying to take them belts away from me, [but] you got to take them belts off me physically if you want to come get them.”

https://themaclife.com/conor-mcgregor-i ... right-now/

Edit - Also as far as I'm aware every champion gets a belt to keep when they become a champion, so Aldo probably still has his featherweight belt somewhere on a wall in his house which he won when he first became champ. So the whole belt thing Mcgregor argues is pointless ha. The UFC don't need to take it, they can just make a new one.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:04 am
by Rocsteady2
He really is skilled at PR. I don't know why you'd want him gone, at the very least he always provides a highly entertaining fight. I'm actually warming to the guy at long last, he's strawberry floating ridiculous but he knows how to put on a show and at the end of it all he's really surprised me with his competence. Was sure Alvarez would TKO him.

That said, the dick-riding online is crazy, the amount of people who think he could beat Mayweather in a ring is just insane. I thought he'd lose against Aldo and Alvarez but in pure boxing trend Mayweather is a defensive God, McGregor wouldn't even get close to landing a glove on him. Even at 41yo or whatever

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:03 pm
by Monkey Man
Tonight -

UFC 206 main card (BT Sport 3, 3 a.m. GMT)

Max Holloway vs. Anthony Pettis – for interim featherweight title (Holloway only; Pettis missed weight)
Matt Brown vs. Donald Cerrone
Dooho Choi vs. Cub Swanson
Kelvin Gastelum vs. Tim Kennedy
Emil Meek vs. Jordan Mein

UFC 206 preliminary card (BT Sport 3, 1 a.m. GMT)

Misha Cirkunov vs. Nikita Krylov
Olivier Aubin-Mercier vs. Drew Dober
Valerie Letourneau vs. Viviane Pereira
Mitch Gagnon vs. Matthew Lopez

UFC 206 preliminary card (UFC Fight Pass, 11:30 p.m. GMT)

John Makdessi vs. Lando Vannata
Rustam Khabilov vs. Jason Saggo
Zach Makovsky vs. Dustin Ortiz



Conor will also cameo in Game of Thrones.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:19 pm
by Mafro
Pettis missed weight? :lol: so if he wins then the interim title is still up for grabs?

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:00 pm
by Lotus
Pettis :fp: If anyone was going to miss weight, my money would've been on Gastelum.

Henderson had better watching out for eye pokes in this grappling match vs Jones.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 205 11/11 McGregor v Alvarez for Midgetweight title

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:15 pm
by Return_of_the_STAR
Anyone watching the boxing?

The Quigg fight was quite good. Everything is running late as normal. Joshua probably wont be fighting until midnight at this rate. Chisora and Whyte will probably go the distance.