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Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:10 am
by shadow202
He is just right because this is really the first time in his career he has been in mainstream media and he should cash in on it while he can.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:13 am
by PurplePenguin
The jump from cruiserweight to heavyweight is the hardest one to make as you can be taking on guys 2-3 stone heavier. I mean haye was a 1.5 stones heavier and he's small himself for a heavyweight.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:17 am
by PurplePenguin
I wonder if we might see a Bellew v Whyte fight. Winner gets to face AJ.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:17 am
by Ste
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
shadow202 wrote:Bellew showed he's a shite fighter because he should have finished his fight in the 5th round and should never have let it get near the 11th round. Haye was strawberry floated and just keep trying to throw really slow power shots which Bellew seen coming a mile off.


I agree. Bellew is not excellent.

Five live are going mad now about haye's trainers. Calling him a fool for wearing them as they have no support.


A shite fighter?!

While I dont doubt that the Haye of 5 years ago would have won comfortably Bellew was fighting as light heavyweight a few years ago, has now won a cruiserweight title, and just beat a heavyweight when not many people gave him a chance. (I won £130!)

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:19 am
by PurplePenguin
To be fair though Haye was seriously injured for half of the fight. I would say Haye was ahead leading up to that and would have beaten him if he could use his feet.

Looking at it maybe Bellew could fight the winner of (Hughie) Fury v Parker.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:23 am
by Ste
While Haye might have been edging it in the first 5/6 rounds if he didnt manage to knock Bellew out in that time, which he didnt, he was always likely to struggle in the second half of the fight.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:27 am
by PurplePenguin
Ste wrote:While Haye might have been edging it in the first 5/6 rounds if he didnt manage to knock Bellew out in that time, which he didnt, he was always likely to struggle in the second half of the fight.


I can only judge it how I saw it and for me Bellew was the one backing off for five rounds and Haye was pursuing, making good shots to the body he looked like the one in the better shape. Once Haye's ankle went the fight turned completely. Haye was actually making the better combinations before that and Bellew was that knackered he couldnt even finish off a fighter with one leg.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:32 am
by Ste
I think Bellew's plan was always just to get to the second half of the fight.

I agree Bellew was also tired and seemed to take longer than what he needed to get Haye out after the injury but once it happened there was no need to rush into it.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:32 am
by PurplePenguin
This is one of the commentators on BBC Round Five:


There's a look of menace and confidence about David Haye. He has a look of experience. You can see him thinking 'it's just a matter of time'.

I am impressed with Haye.



Then he gets injured and the fight is over for him.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:35 am
by Ste
Bellew took everything Haye threw at him before the injury.

EDIT: Im not particularly disputing Haye might have won just the opinion Bellew is a "shite fighter".

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:36 am
by PurplePenguin
To be fair he didnt take a lot because he didn't engage him. He was backing off probably hoping he could tire Haye out as you say but really for five rounds he didn't do anything.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:41 am
by Ste
See edit!

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:58 am
by PurplePenguin
No he's not a shite fighter. He's just been fighting in a division where there's not a lot of big names at the moment so his achievements have gone under the radar.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:39 am
by Irene Demova
The 209 prelims have been better than anything on 208. Two ridiculous comebacks

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:50 am
by Lucien
Wow. What a gooseberry fool main event. Tyron and Stephen seem so average and limited imo.

Like strawberry float Woodley won. Thompson clearly won rounds 1, 2 and 4.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:51 am
by Irene Demova
Please be another draw :lol:

Neither is remotely limited but they perfectly neutralize each other

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:53 am
by Irene Demova
No strawberry floating way

There were only two rounds he could've possibly won

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:55 am
by Lucien
Irene Demova wrote:Please be another draw :lol:

Neither is remotely limited but they perfectly neutralize each other


I've never seen Woodley do anything. He's a power puncher who can sit on people. Boring asf.

No chance he won that though. Who the strawberry float gave that fight to Tyron? :fp:

He won two rounds and lost three. End of.

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:58 am
by Irene Demova
Lucien wrote:
Irene Demova wrote:Please be another draw :lol:

Neither is remotely limited but they perfectly neutralize each other


I've never seen Woodley do anything. He's a power puncher who can sit on people. Boring asf.

No chance he won that though. Who the strawberry float gave that fight to Tyron? :fp:

He won two rounds and lost three. End of.

I think they've scored both rounds he won 10-8

Re: |Fight Club| MMA | Noobs guide to MMA in OP | UFC 209: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:05 am
by Lucien
Actually don't know why I'm spoilering since the fight is over. :lol:

He got two 48-47 calls in his favour, so two judges gave him three rounds (or two rounds and a tied round). His own corner knew he lost, but hey... judges.