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Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:24 pm
by Buffalo
HSH28 wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Deal, but points? Nah.


Does that mean the order doesn't matter? Seems like that's going to cause you problems.


Yes. It'll make it easier for me, and for people filling forms in.

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:08 pm
by HSH28
Buffalo wrote:
HSH28 wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Deal, but points? Nah.


Does that mean the order doesn't matter? Seems like that's going to cause you problems.


Yes. It'll make it easier for me, and for people filling forms in.


Except I'm not sure it will, you'll end up with masses of ties for positions and working that out is a nightmare.

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:59 am
by Christopher
I'll make it really easy for you Buff, Super Mario Galaxy will win, so now all you need to worry about are the runner ups.

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:39 am
by Skippy
I'd rather Red Dead Redemption won so we could watch the forum implode

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:34 am
by Qikz
1>3>4>2 wrote:Dark Souls is the game of the generation.

accept no substitutes.


WAHAHAHAHA

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Game of the Generation, Game of the Decade, Game of Foreever. 8-)

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:51 am
by Trelliz
Wish I'd found this gif while the voting was still open:

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Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:40 am
by Herdanos
HSH28 wrote:you'll end up with masses of ties for positions and working that out is a nightmare.


If it's a tie... what exactly needs working out?

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:20 pm
by HSH28
Dan. wrote:
HSH28 wrote:you'll end up with masses of ties for positions and working that out is a nightmare.


If it's a tie... what exactly needs working out?


The numbers of games you include in your top 50 and their positions in that top 50.

Its a bit of a nonsense if you have 20 games tied for 10th say.

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:15 pm
by HSH28
Lucien wrote:As someone who is on the last chapter of this Fire Emblem, I can confidently say that result is complete horseshit. Fire Emblem is an AWFUL strategy game. AWFUL. We're talking 3/10. It is however, a very fun game.


As someone else who is also on the last chapter of the game (and has put 50+ hours into it), I can confidently say that opinion is complete horseshit. Fire Emblem is a GREAT strategy game. GREAT. We're talking 10/10.

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:19 pm
by andretmzt
It's a 8.5/10 game at most. You are both wrong.

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:20 pm
by rudderless
Lucien wrote:As someone who is on the last chapter of this Fire Emblem, I can confidently say that result is complete horseshit. Fire Emblem is an AWFUL strategy game. AWFUL. We're talking 3/10. It is however, a very fun game.


Quite apart from that making no sense, it's also entirely wrong.

Besides, it's an RPG.

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:25 pm
by Super Dragon 64
Lucien wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Best Strategy Game

And the winner is...

Fire Emblem Awakening

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2nd: Pikmin 3
3rd: XCOM: Enemy Within


As someone who is on the last chapter of this Fire Emblem, I can confidently say that result is complete horseshit. Fire Emblem is an AWFUL strategy game. AWFUL. We're talking 3/10. It is however, a very fun game.

As someone who is on the third from last chapter of this Fire Emblem, and has put over 90 hours into it, I can confidently say that this opinion is complete horseshit. Fire Emblem is an INCREDIBLE strategy game. INCREDIBLE. We're talking 10/10.

Also Lucien, why would you play to the end of a game that you think is horseshit? How can a game that is horseshit be fun? Do you enjoy playing with horseshit?

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:26 pm
by Super Dragon 64
rudderless wrote:
Lucien wrote:As someone who is on the last chapter of this Fire Emblem, I can confidently say that result is complete horseshit. Fire Emblem is an AWFUL strategy game. AWFUL. We're talking 3/10. It is however, a very fun game.


Quite apart from that making no sense, it's also entirely wrong.

Besides, it's an RPG.

It's an SRPG i.e. a strategy role playing game.

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:26 pm
by Spindash
As someone who is on the fifth chapter of this Fire Emblem, I can confidently say that it is a game.

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:34 pm
by rudderless
Dark Dragon 64 wrote:
rudderless wrote:
Lucien wrote:As someone who is on the last chapter of this Fire Emblem, I can confidently say that result is complete horseshit. Fire Emblem is an AWFUL strategy game. AWFUL. We're talking 3/10. It is however, a very fun game.


Quite apart from that making no sense, it's also entirely wrong.

Besides, it's an RPG.

It's an SRPG i.e. a strategy role playing game.


Indeedy. But it's defined more by its RPG elements than its strategy elements. My point was essentially that it's not a pure TBS like Advance Wars. But yeah, it's an SRPG.

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:38 pm
by rudderless
Lucien wrote:I'm 40 hours in, playing on hard/lose them their gone mode.

The game is really fun. It's easily an eight out of ten as a game BUT as a strategy game it sucks balls. I don't play FE for the strategy aspect because, if I wanted that, I'd go play Command and Conquer or Civilisation or something, i.e. an actual full strategy game.

You can read my major gripe in the Fire Emblem: Awakening thread. Other than that I'd just say this winning best strategy game is embarrassing.


Not as embarrassing as not knowing the difference between "their" and "they're".

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:12 pm
by Super Dragon 64
rudderless wrote:
Lucien wrote:I'm 40 hours in, playing on hard/lose them their gone mode.

The game is really fun. It's easily an eight out of ten as a game BUT as a strategy game it sucks balls. I don't play FE for the strategy aspect because, if I wanted that, I'd go play Command and Conquer or Civilisation or something, i.e. an actual full strategy game.

You can read my major gripe in the Fire Emblem: Awakening thread. Other than that I'd just say this winning best strategy game is embarrassing.


Not as embarrassing as not knowing the difference between "their" and "they're".

Or that The Last of Us beat Super Mario 3D World as the game of the year/with the best visuals/with the best audio.

rudderless wrote:
Dark Dragon 64 wrote:
rudderless wrote:
Lucien wrote:As someone who is on the last chapter of this Fire Emblem, I can confidently say that result is complete horseshit. Fire Emblem is an AWFUL strategy game. AWFUL. We're talking 3/10. It is however, a very fun game.


Quite apart from that making no sense, it's also entirely wrong.

Besides, it's an RPG.

It's an SRPG i.e. a strategy role playing game.


Indeedy. But it's defined more by its RPG elements than its strategy elements. My point was essentially that it's not a pure TBS like Advance Wars. But yeah, it's an SRPG.

I'd say it's more strategy than RPG which is why I think that the following quote is ridiculous:
Lucien wrote:I don't play FE for the strategy aspect because, if I wanted that, I'd go play Command and Conquer or Civilisation or something, i.e. an actual full strategy game.

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:18 pm
by HSH28
Lucien wrote:The game is really fun. It's easily an eight out of ten as a game BUT as a strategy game it sucks balls. I don't play FE for the strategy aspect because, if I wanted that, I'd go play Command and Conquer or Civilisation or something, i.e. an actual full strategy game.


I don't quite see how that's the case at all. Just because you add RPG elements doesn't make a strategy game somehow less strategic.

Quite frankly putting forward the idea that C&C and Civilization have more in common with one another than they do with Fire Emblem is embarrassing, they are all completely different types of strategy game. If anything I'd say C&C was the most limited of the 3 games.

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:31 pm
by Squinty
Fire Emblem was one of the best games I've played in years. I liked the element of luck, really added some risk to what you were doing. It was a very exciting game.

Re: GRcade Game of the Year Awards 2013 Results LIVE NOW!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:06 pm
by rudderless
The element of fortune is part of the strategy. You have to balance the elements of risk and caution, while working on the relationship stuff (itself a crucial factor in your tactics) increases your chances of benefitting from good luck. It's an amazing moment when you're playing with permadeath on and one of your characters is a single hit away from dying. The attack comes in, and suddenly their partner leaps in to deflect the bow and saves the day.

What a game. :wub: