Halo 5: Guardians (Xbox One) - Coronavirus Relief Fund DLC (p81)

[iup=3515643]Photek[/iup] wrote:I really think people should stop Hating on Halo 4, when you play it again on X1 I think some people will realise that its not a bad game in itself, you may also notice at high res and 60fps that its gorgeous. Its always compared to Halo 1 and Halo 3 but they are amongst the best FPS games of all time but compared to the CODS, Killzones and Battlefields of this world it has a far better campaign than any of those could muster.

Of the top of my head, non-Halo FPS campaigns I enjoyed more than Halo 4:

Modern Warfare 2
Modern Warfare 3
Bioshock
Black Ops
Black Ops 2
Bad Company
Bad Company 2
Killzone: Shadow Fall
Wolfenstein: The New Order

Halo campaigns I enjoyed more than Halo 4:

All of them.

Well I think Halo 4's campaign is better than all those game you listed (that ive played). How you think Halo 2's campaign is better is beyond me. Its the only Halo campaign I didnt finish . Gives me an incentive to play Halo 2's Anniversary campaign however.

[iup=3515676]Photek[/iup] wrote:Well I think Halo 4's campaign is better than all those game you listed (that ive played)

[iup=3515681]Mafro[/iup] wrote:

[iup=3515676]Photek[/iup] wrote:Well I think Halo 4's campaign is better than all those game you listed (that ive played)

Bar Bioshock, Bioshock is peerless, but I never said it was better than that.

You picking up the Mastercheif Collection maf?

[iup=3515643]Photek[/iup] wrote:I have a different opinion. The Chief/Cortana relationship really started to kick off in Halo3 which was made by Bungie, she features heavily in the reveal trailer and had more lines than ever, Halo 4 continued this and done so well (imo) with John and Cortana talking to each other more than ever. I also thought how they handled her dying was done well and not corny or over reaching at all. Out of all the Halo's I thought Halo 4 had the strongest script in this regard and doesn't paint John as anything other than Human not SuperHuman. When you finish it you'll see a man, nothing more.

I really think people should stop Hating on Halo 4, when you play it again on X1 I think some people will realise that its not a bad game in itself, you may also notice at high res and 60fps that its gorgeous. Its always compared to Halo 1 and Halo 3 but they are amongst the best FPS games of all time but compared to the CODS, Killzones and Battlefields of this world it has a far better campaign than any of those could muster.

I have high hopes for Halo 5, With Halo CE anniversary, Halo 4 and Masterchief collection under their belt I think 343 are on the verge of something special. I'm very interested to see what Halo 5's mp and its going to be great to start the new year off with a 2 week beta.

I agree.
I thought the change from almost silent hero in the first game to showing real emotion for a computer program who had guided him through wars and defeats showed he wasn't just a robot.
He did need companionship and to him Cortana wasn't just a program but a living being who he loved.

I think this side of the story would have got more attention if they had given it more attention from the start but it was a decent addition to an otherwise rather blank slate character.

But how do you really feel?

For reals though its campaign is better than Halo 2.

What do you expect she only had a limited amount of time left alive she's obviously not going to be happy about that being cut even shorter and she's already tried helping to save the galaxy and it didn't work out that great.
Is it the best story ever told?
No but it's pretty great for a computer game series where they can't exactly show much of the emotional side as it's mainly about shooting people in the head.

I do agree the Prometheuns are a pile of gooseberry fool though.

[iup=3515683]Photek[/iup] wrote:

[iup=3515681]Mafro[/iup] wrote:

[iup=3515676]Photek[/iup] wrote:Well I think Halo 4's campaign is better than all those game you listed (that ive played)

Bar Bioshock, Bioshock is peerless, but I never said it was better than that.

You picking up the Mastercheif Collection maf?

Not sure yet, I'll wait and see if I can get it for a decent price. Wouldn't mind playing through the non-Flood sections of Halo 3 and the multiplayer again.

I may be tempted if they also announce a slim console but I can't see that happening this soon after launch.

For Halo 2/3 mp alone its worth it imo. 100 maps including all the DLC...colour me sold.

i liked 4

4 was gooseberry fool.

Started amazingly well, that I remember. Then the prometheans turned up and ruined everything.

Yeah 4 was gash, lost faith in the series after that, complately ruined multiplayer.

It was all gooseberry fool. The MP was COD.

No. No perks thanks. And the SP was so poor,I can't remember it except those dog things. I can remember loads of 3

[iup=3516074]glowy69[/iup] wrote:4 was gooseberry fool.

Started amazingly well, that I remember. Then the prometheans turned up and ruined everything.

Glowy knows Started off quite good when it was just us against the Covenant, then as soon as the Prometheans came on the scene it was pretty much downhill from there

[iup=3516122]Codename 47[/iup] wrote:

[iup=3516074]glowy69[/iup] wrote:4 was gooseberry fool.

Started amazingly well, that I remember. Then the prometheans turned up and ruined everything.

Glowy knows Started off quite good when it was just us against the Covenant, then as soon as the Prometheans came on the scene it was pretty much downhill from there

I remember the jungle and being mesmerised by the ship crashing above. then they appeared

Rather have had the flood.

[iup=3515676]Photek[/iup] wrote:Well I think Halo 4's campaign is better than all those game you listed (that ive played). How you think Halo 2's campaign is better is beyond me. Its the only Halo campaign I didnt finish . Gives me an incentive to play Halo 2's Anniversary campaign however.

Personally, Halo 2's campaign suffered from being just a little bit dull. I only managed half of Halo 4's campaign so I can't say how exciting the second half was, but what I played was just a little bit dull... and with worse enemies.

The Prometheans are no Elites, are they?

Halo 2 was obviously redeemed as a packaged by the awesome, groundbreaking (for consoles) multiplayer. Halo 4's MP was just an awful back-step - I mean, they even fudged Firefight by getting rid of it and giving us Spartan Ops. Which was, you guessed it, also just a little bit dull.

I am surprised that people defend it. Well, I am not really, as the Halo series as some really ardent lovers who lap it up (I won't go into the story/lore argument again, but people get invested in that too and that affects how they view the games).

The big question is, would Halo 4's SP be held up as a great FPS campaign if it was a new IP released with little fanfare. Some may say it would, and that it gets a harsh reception due to being held against Bungie's work and previous Halo campaigns.

I would argue that it wouldn't, and that Halo 4's SP is a bit dump. As a comparison, I played Killzone 2's SP from the start and while that suffers from the same generic sci-fi story trappings as Halo's, it kept my interest. It was consistent and the fact that it was a set over one campaign, in one city, over a few days, gave it some narrative structure and cohesion. Whoops, I'm mentioning story again.

But, yeah, I'd stick Killzone 2 above it in terms of single player. And Resistance 2. And Bioshock 2 as well. All have better campaigns, with better "stories" too. All weren't universally praised as the best thing ever, but they all comfortably beat Halo 4.

It's not like I have "fallen out of love" with Halo either, as I was a big fan of Reach. The story there was a little confusing (as I think some of it again required the background universe set up in the books), but it worked thanks to the whole "doomed squad/planet" aspect. That and ODST were probably the Halo series best attempts at character. I don't think a sarcastic comment from Cortana is this much-vaunted relationship that people go on about. She was good as a bossy HUD in the first one though. Less is better, again, I think. Once it was rammed down your throat that these had some great bond, you sort of choke on it a bit.

So I obviously still think the original Halo has the best "plot" of all the games and is all the plot I need from Halo's generic, slightly dull, sci-fi trappings. If they have to try and shoe-horning something "deeper" in and fit it in with their expanded lore, than ODST and Reach did it better. ODST had the balls to do something quite different too, and mess around with the structure of the game a little bit.

[iup=3516095]glowy69[/iup] wrote:It was all gooseberry fool. The MP was COD.

No. No perks thanks. And the SP was so poor,I can't remember it except those dog things. I can remember loads of 3

[iup=3516134]Parksey[/iup] wrote:But, yeah, I'd stick Killzone 2 above it in terms of single player. And Resistance 2. And Bioshock 2 as well. All have better campaigns, with better "stories" too. All weren't universally praised as the best thing ever, but they all comfortably beat Halo 4.

Killzone 2 does not have a better SP campaign than Halo 4. And Resistance 2...what on earth are you smoking?

There's nothing like a bit of Galo. Not even Not Halo comes close.