Denster presents: The 4K/8K HDR HDTV Thread

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by KK » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:28 pm

The front page needs to be updated; SkyHD now only costs £150 for the box with SkyHD Mix. £399 without.

Virgin Media's V+ box is free, but installation costs £75 when taken with their phone line. £150 without.

A FreeSat box starts from about £120. Installation of the dish varies, but is about £80.

By the way, www.hdtvtest.co.uk may be quite helpful for those thinking about picking up a new TV.

Absolutely loving my recent purchases. Well worth all that saving up

I bought the Panasonic TH-37PX80 Plasma and a PS3 + MGS4 + HDMI (ebay £3.78) + PS2/Wii in one component cable (ebay £10) + Play TV + 320 Gig hard drive Total ~ £1000 ( :lol:

actually froze my account because they got suspicious)

Everything looks amazing on my plasma. MGS4, Excellent sound and detail, cant wait to play more of this game. I think I get the poor sound reviews for this tv but because it is so much better than the sound on my old tv I am happy

The PS3 is such a good multimedia player. DVD's look excellent on it when played through the PS3. Which means any standard def stuff you play looks great. Rather than watching downloaded TV eps on my laptop I transfer them on to my 8GB SD card then plug it into the ps3 using the usb sdcard reader. You can play it off the sd card or transfer it to your hard drive for permanent storage. Its so flipping awesome its going to be great filling my hard drive. Its the pirates paradise (my stance is that if I have bought it already I am not buying it again on blu ray, strawberry float em!... maybe when prices come down (e.g wall e in blu ray costs £16.99 so I will probably buy that as I dont have it on DVD, but I am not re buying transformers))

This is so much better than any other method I have tried to get movies from my laptop playing on the tv( s-video is fiddly, no hdmi on laptop etc).

The plasma is so great at SDTV I had high expectations for SD consoles and my expectations where all met. PSone games surprisingly look excellent via ps3 too. Wii looked great via RGB, it wasn't as fuzzy as I was expecting. This plasma does such a great job. But when I plugged in my cheapo component cable in it looked even better! PS2 the same however when I tried the component cable it looked so much sharper than I was ever expecting (I have seen some awful RGB and component pictures on HDTV's with PS2 connected to them), again this is down to this excellent plasma tv. Granted non of these pictures are perfect compared to them connected to standard SDTV's, Wii is close, PS2 is hit and miss dependant on which game (e.g ico looks more fuzzy than SOTC).

Bottom line SDTV stuff played through PS3 = as great as possible much better job than a standard def tv would do. PS2 with component excellent but I imagine it would be better if played through those ps3's with emotion engines in them and thus unscaled. Wii excellent.

Great Tv

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by **Glowy69** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:46 pm

KKLEIN wrote:The front page needs to be updated; SkyHD now only costs £150 for the box with SkyHD Mix. £399 without.

Virgin Media's V+ box is free, but installation costs £75 when taken with their phone line. £150 without.

A FreeSat box starts from about £120. Installation of the dish varies, but is about £80.

By the way, http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk may be quite helpful for those thinking about picking up a new TV.

Sky HD is £75 mate..keep up.

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by KK » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:55 pm

http://www.sky.com/portal/site/skycom/s ... hd/pricing

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by **Glowy69** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:59 pm

Go to a retailer, its £75.

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by **Shadow** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:53 pm

I need a decent TV stand for a 50" plasma, budget is about £250 although the cheaper the better.

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by **Glowy69** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:33 am

We have Kenmark ones at Comet for £125. If you want a decent Alphason one you will pay around £200 mate.

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by **Glowy69** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:35 am

Right clarification on these Sony TV's, and apologies to KKlein.

26V4000 - HD Ready, Bravia Engine
32V4000 - As above
32W4000 - BE 2
40V4000 - BE 2
40W4000 - BE2, next to no difference to the V
40W4500 - All the above plus 100hz motion flow.

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by **Shadow** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:54 am

glowy69 wrote:We have Kenmark ones at Comet for £125. If you want a decent Alphason one you will pay around £200 mate.

http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/produc ... -50-inches

£125

http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/produc ... ab/reviews

£400

gooseberry fool, I really like that Alphason one *Googles* I can get it for £260, is Alphason better quality or am I just paying for the brand name?

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by **Glowy69** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:03 am

Shatterproof glass, nicer looking, higher quality build, so yeah they are.

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by **Shadow** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:14 am

It does look the biz doesn't it? I think I'll get that one.

You can add me to the forumite tv list too if you want, Panasonic TH50PZ81, Panasonic TH42PV500 and Goodmans GTVL19W17HD.

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by KK » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:54 pm

glowy69 wrote:Right clarification on these Sony TV's, and apologies to KKlein.

26V4000 - HD Ready, Bravia Engine
32V4000 - As above
32W4000 - BE 2
40V4000 - BE 2
40W4000 - BE2, next to no difference to the V
40W4500 - All the above plus 100hz motion flow.

Cheers. Why do Sony have so many ranges of TV? You'd think they'd at least try & keep it simple.

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by **Glowy69** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:59 pm

Because they are fuckwits, and trust me...apart from the 40V4000, NONE of them are worth the asking price.

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by KK » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:09 pm

None of their TV's are truly bad though, are they? Apart from one review I read a while ago (I think it may have been the large W3000) where they said it had some of the worst motion smearing they'd seen in ages, making it totally redundant for sport. Or anything fast, basically.

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by **Glowy69** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:18 pm

Ive said it before and I will say it again, they completely break down during dark scenes, even through HD. We used to use the V2500 to show off Sky HD now you cant use one because the picture is gooseberry fool. Thats not to say its bad, its just nowhere near as good as Sony would have you believe, I await the W4500 with some anticipation to see if they have fixed anything.

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by KK » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:28 pm

glowy69 wrote:I await the W4500 with some anticipation to see if they have fixed anything.

That only starts at 40 inches though, doesn't it?

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by **Shadow** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:24 pm

Why do people buy Sonys? It seems like almost everyone is of the opinion that they're not bad TVs, but they are all overpriced.

KK you could get a 42" 1080p 100Hz Panasonic PZ80 for about the same/less as the 40" Sonys you're looking at.

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by **still** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:28 pm

glowy69 wrote:Ive said it before and I will say it again, they completely break down during dark scenes, even through HD. We used to use the V2500 to show off Sky HD now you cant use one because the picture is ****. Thats not to say its bad, its just nowhere near as good as Sony would have you believe, I await the W4500 with some anticipation to see if they have fixed anything.

Glowy - are you saying that sony tvs are generally overpriced ? - personally I've long suspected that sony stick their name on any old crap and hike up the price knowing people will bite regardless. I've just never been impressed. The two manufacturers I've never had any problems with are panasonic and philips - but, and certainly in the case of philips - there names just aren't quite as cool... You are obviously in the know, so be interesting to know which makes you think are genuinely worth the money - not that I'm buying mind. We still have a 28" panasonic crt as our main tv in the lounge, (I did by an end of range 42" panasonic plasma for gaming in the spare room though.....)

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by **Shadow** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:26 am

I've always been extremely happy with all the Panasonic stuff I've had. My three year old Panasonic has a better image on SD and 720p than my mum's six month old Samsung, although my old set can't do 1080p.

I do like the style of some of the Sony TVs particularly the one with the glass frame, but try as he may, the guy in Sony Centre just couldn't make the picture look any cop and at the end that's what matters, I've yet to look at a Bravia and be impressed by the image.

On the other hand I've been in awe of the image on some Panasonic, Samsung and Pioneer sets.

PostRe: HDTV thread......coming soon by KK » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:15 am

But if Sony TVs are that bad, how come they rarely ever get bad reviews? These so called experts can't all be wrong. The conclusion is usually the same, but by which they get there certainly isn't.

Take the Freeview on the W4000. I've read, from both reader & 'professional' reviews that the Freeview is terrible, fine, & brilliant. Cheers for that. And it's not something you can just tell from at a glance in Curry's either as most of the TV's without a HD source are set up pretty poorly anyway.

I'd be pretty happy with my Samsung if it weren't for the amount of problems I've been having with it recently. Which is a shame. The dodgy build quality is starting to show (so that's why they're cheaper...), & I've only had it for about 2 years.

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