NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread

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by Rax » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:55 pm

jawafour wrote:Looking at new TVs, I continue to be amazed at how few HDMI sockets they have. I reckon I'd want five which can't be that unusual.

Thats what always amazes me. If I were to get a TV for my games room Id have a PC, Wii U, Blu Ray player, Chromecast, RPI and NES Mini to plug in. The sitting room has a Sky box, HTPC and a Blu Ray player. Yet most TVs seem to have one or two HDMI ports, seeing one with three is a bit of a rarity. I assume they need to pay a license fee for each port they add, so more ports is more license fees.

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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Ad7 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:05 pm

Yep, everything like that carries a licence fee.

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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Lagamorph » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:10 pm

I'm surprised they don't just have an empty slot for HDMI expansion cards.

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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Red 5 stella » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:41 pm

I'm looking for a 4k TV with HDR, minimum 43'' screen size, minimum 3 HDMI slots, willing to spend around £500, any suggestions please?

Are all new TV's ok with input lag and gaming? I really don't fully understand Ultra HD, HDR etc, will want the TV to work well with a PS4 pro does TV need ultra HD or HDR?

Thanks in advance.

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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by KK » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:40 pm

You'll find this quite useful - all the TVs Rtings.com has tested this year (updated 8th September 2017):

Rtings.com (USA Model codes; UK names may differ) wrote:
*Prices as of 22nd June 2017 and for the 55'' model

BEST OVERALL 4K TELEVISION 2017 (Samsung, Sony and LG tested)

LG C7 OLED: 8.7/10 (£2,999)
Sony A1E OLED: 8.6/10 (£3,499)
Sony X930E LED: 8.3/10 (£2,199)
Sony X940E LED: 8.2/10
Sony X900E LED: 8.2/10 (£1,399)
Samsung MU9000 LED: 8.0/10
Samsung Q9F QLED: 8.0/10 (£3,899)
Samsung Q7F QLED: 8.0/10 (£2,299)
Samsung MU8000 LED: 7.9/10
Sony X850E LED: 7.9/10 (£1,279)
Samsung MU8500: 7.6/10
LG SJ8500 LED: 7.6/10
Samsung MU7000 LED: 7.5/10 (49'' £953)
Sony X800E LED: 7.5/10 (49'' £589)
Samsung MU6300 LED: 7.4/10 (£899)
Sony X720E: 7.4/10 (£739)
LG UJ7700 LED: 7.4/10
LG UJ6300 UHD LED: 7.1/10

BEST RESPONSE TIMES FOR GAMING

LG UJ6300 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 11.4 ms; 4K & HDR: 12ms
LG UJ7700 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 11.5 ms; 4K & HDR: 11.3ms - BEST PERFORMING IN 4K
LG SJ8500 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz & 4K HDR: 15ms
Sony X720E: 1080p @ 60Hz & 4K HDR: 19.8ms
Samsung MU6300 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz & 4K HDR: 20.2ms
Samsung MU7000 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 21.0ms; 4K & HDR: 21.8ms
LG C7 OLED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 21.3ms; 4K & HDR: 21.1ms
Samsung Q9F QLED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 21.3ms; 4K & HDR: 22ms
Samsung MU8500: 1080p @ 60Hz: 23.9ms; 4k @ HDR: 22.8ms
Samsung MU8000 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 24.2ms: 4K & HDR: 24.2ms
Samsung MU9000 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz and 4K & HDR: 24.2ms
Samsung Q7F QLED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 24.3ms; 4K & HDR: 24.4ms
Sony X900E LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 31.5ms; 4K & HDR: 34.2ms
Sony X850E LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 31.8ms; 4K & HDR: 34.3ms - WORST PERFORMING IN 4K
Sony X800E LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 32.9ms; 4K & HDR: 34.2ms
Sony X940E LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 40.7ms; 4K & HDR: 23.9ms
Sony X930E LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 42.3ms; 4K & HDR: 25.8ms
Sony A1E OLED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 47.4ms; 4K & HDR: 30.7ms

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Red 5 stella wrote:I'm looking for a 4k TV with HDR, minimum 43'' screen size, minimum 3 HDMI slots, willing to spend around £500, any suggestions please?

Are all new TV's ok with input lag and gaming? I really don't fully understand Ultra HD, HDR etc, will want the TV to work well with a PS4 pro does TV need ultra HD or HDR?

Thanks in advance.

To take full advantage of the PS4 Pro you'll need a TV that supports both 4K Ultra HD and HDR, which pretty much the vast majority of new TVs this year do.

Input lag can vary dramatically. My TV has a relatively high input lag compared to TVs released this year (30-50ms) but I've not noticed any problems playing anything yet. Most TVs for 2017 fall well below this anyway.

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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by HSH28 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:03 pm

Red 5 stella wrote:I'm looking for a 4k TV with HDR, minimum 43'' screen size, minimum 3 HDMI slots, willing to spend around £500, any suggestions please?

Are all new TV's ok with input lag and gaming? I really don't fully understand Ultra HD, HDR etc, will want the TV to work well with a PS4 pro does TV need ultra HD or HDR?

Thanks in advance.


The following might be worth a read, even though most of the TVs won't be anywhere near your budget, it should give you an idea of what you can get and what more expensive TVs offer...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... r-gaming_1

Basically anything under 50ms in terms of lag should be fine, UHD is 4K and HDR is about displaying colours more accurately and allowing the TV to display brighter and darker scenes.

Then there are several different HDR formats that TVs may or may not display (basically most will do HDR10 and what is going to be the broadcast format HLG, only a few do Dolby Vision), then you will need HDMI 2.0 HDMI sockets, last year there were HDR TVs which might have only had a single HDMI 2.0 socket. Not sure about this year but its something to consider.

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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Grumpy David » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:41 am

Do Rtings not bother to review Panasonic TVs? The 2017 TV rankings is only Samsung, Sony and LG.

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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by KK » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:56 am

They have an extremely limited precence in the USA; they're not popular at all.

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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Knoyleo » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:01 pm

Are Phillips any good or no?

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/7508976

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by darksideby182 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:05 pm

Knoyleo wrote:Are Phillips any good or no?

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/7508976

Pretty sure they sold off there TV division a few years ago so it's under licence by somebody else.

Probably worth have a dig around on hotukdeals threads for a bit of info as they did get posted often.

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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Hime » Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:31 pm

I need to pick up a new TV for the Sky installation on Wednesday, I'm thinking about 40' and a quick search suggests about £500 is what I can expect to pay.

Is there much difference at this price range or should I just go with a manufacturer that I like?

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