NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread

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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Peter Crisp » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:11 pm

Grumpy David wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:I don't own a strawberry floating mobile phone


WTF? How does somebody who is obsessed with the latest and greatest hardware not even own a strawberry floating phone? :lol:


That is odd even by Crispy's standards!

I can only assume he meant smartphone and he at least owns a Nokia 3310 or equivalent.


Nope, I'm mobile free.
If you want to get hold of me and I'm not in the house then you just have to find me.
Interestingly I had this exact conversation with a lady at work who looked at me like I had brown a second head when I said I didn't own a mobile phone. She asked "What if someone want's to get hold of you?" and I just shrugged and said "I just don't care" which seemed to somehow make her angry for some reason and I have no idea why?
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jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Moggy » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:11 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:I don't own a strawberry floating mobile phone


WTF? How does somebody who is obsessed with the latest and greatest hardware not even own a strawberry floating phone? :lol:


Because I'm a grumpy strawberry floater who doesn't like talking to people or the thought that work can get in contact with me wherever I am.
I do have 5 different tablets and 4 Kindles though :shifty: .
I also don't quite understand why anyone would pay the frankly ludicrous prices mobiles cost just to have constant access to the internet. I pay for net access at home and it's cheap as chips why would I spend shitloads on a mobile unit just so I can google some random gooseberry fool on the train?
I don't understand :?: .

The last phone I owned was a samsung clamshell that was 2g (I think) thing that got de-activated as I hadn't used it in a year.


You're an odd guy. :lol:
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by KK » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:04 pm

It's not something that bothers me currently, but it's amazing how for a company that produces a games console they have the worst input lag response times by a mile - they're up to 7x slower than LG over the last 2 years. I can only presume that they're unable to turn their picture processing off and it slows it right down. The LG and Sony OLED is using an identical screen.

Lagamorph wrote:If go up to £2,000 for an OLED but I just couldn't justify more than that. As much as I want that Sony OLED there's no way I can justify forking over £5,000 for it. A good chunk of that cost is probably the screen speakers that I'd never use anyway since I have a surround sound system.

They claim it's fine, but I refuse to believe having a subwoofer vibrating the screen is going to do the longevity of the product any good.
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by KK » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:23 pm

Big update available for those with the following Sony TVs:

KD-85XD8505KD-75XD9405KD-75XD8505KD-65XD9305KD-65XD8599KD-65XD8577KD-65XD8505KD-65SD8505KD-55XD9305KD-55XD8599KD-55XD8588KD-55XD8577KD-55XD8505KD-55SD850KD

Benefits and improvements from the latest update

Adds support for the HLG (Hybrid Log Gamma) HDR format via HDMI input.

Reduces input lag for 4K HDR gaming (enable Game mode).

Resolves issue where the right-hand side of the screen becomes bright when changing input from HDMI (4K signal input) to Terrestrial.

Enables compatibility with YouTube HDR videos (videos with continue to play in standard format for the time being)

Resolves sound skipping when using a Sonos sound bar.

Resolves stuttering playback on Amazon video when pressing ACTION MENU or VOL+/- buttons.

Resolves poor video quality on BBC iPlayer when using “Watch from start” feature.

And Rtings.com have got round to reviewing the Samsung MU7600: http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/mu7600
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Saint of Killers » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:36 pm

Nosing about the site above and found this:

Q: We have a 40" Samsung that is about five-years-old and that takes a long time to power on (20 to 25 min.) Is this common with Samsung TV's?

A: Yes, it was common in the past. Samsung had a class action lawsuit brought against them for this problem, which is caused by faulty capacitors. Call Samsung to see if your model qualifies for the settlement.
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http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/b ... 42-43-inch


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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Peter Crisp » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:58 pm

25 minutes to power on is strawberry floating unacceptable.
I'm annoyed if my sets don't turn on in 4 or 5 seconds.
jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Grumpy David » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:44 am

American Express have a credit card that in the first 3 months gives 5% cashback on the first £2,000 of spending.

Potentially £100 knocked off the price for anyone looking to buy a new TV.
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by KK » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:11 pm

Rtings.com's best TV for 4K HDR gaming, the LG C7, is currently on offer at Curry's at £2,499 (£500 off):

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-hom ... 8-pdt.html

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/b ... hdr-gaming

Should be £2000-£2,200 in November.
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Ad7 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:35 pm

Bit small though.
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Knoyleo » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:38 pm

Got access through work to a deal for 20% off a range of LG TVs, but they start getting expensive pretty quickly, don't they?

Looking at this LG 43UJ635V 43 Inch Smart 4K Ultra HD TV with HDR. Is it any good? Is it good value?
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Ad7 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:50 pm

4k at 43 inches is probably pointless thh. Can you afford a bigger screen?
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Knoyleo » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:58 pm

Could probably stretch to a 49", but the bigger concern is probably going to be how much space it starts taking up beyond that. Current TV is only 30/32", I think.
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by HSH28 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:24 pm

Aren't the non-OLED LGs supposed to be a bit gooseberry fool?
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Grumpy David » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:44 pm

HSH28 wrote:Aren't the non-OLED LGs supposed to be a bit gooseberry fool?


I think Sony and Panasonic OLEDs are actually made by LG but using Panasonic/Sony's software/processing engines. I'm sure I read that top end Panasonic OLED is being used as a reference panel by movie studios due to colour accuracy and black levels.
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by HSH28 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:01 pm

Grumpy David wrote:
HSH28 wrote:Aren't the non-OLED LGs supposed to be a bit gooseberry fool?


I think Sony and Panasonic OLEDs are actually made by LG but using Panasonic/Sony's software/processing engines. I'm sure I read that top end Panasonic OLED is being used as a reference panel by movie studios due to colour accuracy and black levels.


I think you are right that they make the panels for this years Sony and Panasonic OLEDs and I've seen that the Panasonic TV has 'reference level' colour reproduction (whatever that really means).

Not sure what that's got to do with LGs LCD TVs though.
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by KK » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:07 pm

All the TVs Rtings.com has tested this year (updated):

Rtings.com (USA Model codes; UK names may differ) wrote:
*Prices as of 22nd June 2017 and for the 55'' model

BEST OVERALL 4K TELEVISION 2017 (Samsung, Sony and LG tested)

LG C7 OLED: 8.7/10 (£2,999)
Sony A1E OLED: 8.6/10 (£3,499)
Sony X930E LED: 8.3/10 (£2,199)
Sony X940E LED: 8.2/10
Sony X900E LED: 8.2/10 (£1,399)
Samsung MU9000 LED: 8.0/10
Samsung Q9F QLED: 8.0/10 (£3,899)
Samsung Q7F QLED: 8.0/10 (£2,299)
Samsung MU8000 LED: 7.9/10
Sony X850E LED: 7.9/10 (£1,279)
LG SJ8500 LED: 7.6/10
Samsung MU7000 LED: 7.5/10
Sony X800E LED: 7.5/10
Samsung MU6300 LED: 7.4/10 (£899)
LG UJ7700 LED: 7.4/10
LG UJ6300 UHD LED: 7.1/10

BEST RESPONSE TIMES FOR GAMING

LG UJ6300 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 11.4 ms; 4K & HDR: 12ms
LG UJ7700 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 11.5 ms; 4K & HDR: 11.3ms - BEST PERFORMING IN 4K
LG SJ8500 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz & 4K HDR: 15ms
Samsung MU6300 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz & 4K HDR: 20.2ms
Samsung MU7000 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 21.0ms; 4K & HDR: 21.8ms
LG C7 OLED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 21.3ms; 4K & HDR: 21.1ms
Samsung Q9F QLED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 21.3ms; 4K & HDR: 22ms
Samsung MU8000 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 24.2ms: 4K & HDR: 24.2ms
Samsung MU9000 LED: 1080p @ 60Hz and 4K & HDR: 24.2ms
Samsung Q7F QLED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 24.3ms; 4K & HDR: 24.4ms
Sony X900E LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 31.5ms; 4K & HDR: 34.2ms
Sony X850E LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 31.8ms; 4K & HDR: 34.3ms - WORST PERFORMING IN 4K
Sony X800E LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 32.9ms; 4K & HDR: 34.2ms
Sony X940E LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 40.7ms; 4K & HDR: 23.9ms
Sony X930E LED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 42.3ms; 4K & HDR: 25.8ms
Sony A1E OLED: 1080p @ 60Hz: 47.4ms; 4K & HDR: 30.7ms

The worst performer in terms of picture quality is also the best performer for gaming response times (1080).
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by TigaSefi » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:09 pm

Haven't even bought a new TV and it already out of date :lol: I was gonna get a 49 UHD 4k but I won't bother now.
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by KK » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:12 am

Transforming the TV sound experience for customers, Sky partners with Devialet to launch new Sky Soundbox

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Sky and Devialet, one of the world’s most innovative names in audio, have joined forces to create Sky Soundbox, a new all-in-one sound system designed to take the TV viewing experience to the next level. From one single compact speaker unit, Sky Soundbox delivers powerful and immersive sound that puts the viewer at the heart of the action, with audio quality that surpasses many of the best home cinema systems available today.

Sky Soundbox combines the intelligence of Sky TV with Devialet’s ground breaking audio technologies, developed for the critically acclaimed Expert Pro amplifier and Phantom wireless speaker. This is the first time Devialet has partnered with another brand, making its unique sound available to millions of Sky customers across the UK and Ireland at great value. Together the two companies are reimagining what consumers can expect from their home TV sound experience.

Combining six woofers and three full-range speakers into a single compact device, Sky Soundbox uses the walls in the home to reflect ambient sound around the room. Devialet’s superior engineering also enables Sky Soundbox to deliver outstanding power and bass depth. The result is spatial surround sound, offering the immersive, 360 degrees experience normally expected from a full home cinema system, without the need for a subwoofer or extra speakers.

Stephen van Rooyen, Chief Executive Officer, Sky UK and Ireland, commented: “Sound is a vital part of visual storytelling – whether you’re watching the season finale of your favourite drama, or an epic Premier League clash. That’s why we’ve partnered with audio industry leaders Devialet to launch Sky Soundbox and take the TV experience to the next level for our customers. Great TV deserves great audio – we believe Sky Soundbox is the Ultra HD of home audio.”

Quentin Sannié, Chief Executive, Devialet, said: “Sound is the future of television. We are very proud to be partnering with Sky, to help them to unleash the full emotional impact of their content, through powerful, immersive, fully integrated sound. This first partnership illustrates our ability to pursue Devialet’s vision to enable revolutionary experiences through audio, and bring them to the widest number of people through partnerships with like-minded companies who are looking to challenge the status quo.”

Sky Soundbox is compatible with Sky Q, Sky+ and standalone TVs. When paired with Sky Q, customers can enjoy Sky Q Sound – exclusive sound modes designed by Devialet, to automatically refine the audio for a range of Sky’s entertainment and sports. Each mode adjusts and tailors Sky Soundbox’s audio settings so entertainment can be enjoyed at its best.

In addition, Sky Soundbox offers dynamic volume management, analysing incoming audio in real time, and adjusting volume levels to ensure clarity - from quiet dialogue to explosive action. Sky Soundbox users will also be able to select a number of manual modes that best suit their needs, including:

Dialogue Enhance mode: ensuring speech is clear and defined
Late Night mode: decreasing bass and further enhancing quiet whispers
Kids mode: giving parents control over the maximum volume levels to protect vulnerable ears.

Sky Soundbox will go on sale this autumn priced at £799. Current and new Sky customers will enjoy great value at £299, with new and existing Sky Q Multiscreen customers priced at £249. Customers can pre-register for the latest updates about the new product at Sky.com/SkySoundbox.


https://corporate.sky.com/media-centre/ ... y-soundbox

If it's any good, that is an incredible price.

Odd shape though. And at a whopping 37.5cm x 21cm x 9.5cm, it's far too big and bulky to sit under the TV if it's on a table.
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by Floex » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:31 pm

I'm on the look at out for a monitor for my PlayStation 4, anyone in the know can guide me to what I should be looking at?

Doesn't need to be 4k.
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PostRe: NickSCFC presents: the HDTV thread
by SugarDave » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:57 am

Anybody know of any good deals on a 1080p TV that's around 40"? Doesn't particularly need to be anything special, as long as it has at least 3 HDMI ports.

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