Denster presents: The 4K/8K HDR HDTV Thread

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by Albert » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:31 pm

The more expensive one has 1cm more extra diagonal Screen size.

Edit - Actually it's the cheaper one with the additional 1cm. :|

Edit 2 - Have you thought about looking at Panasonic Tvs? I've owned both and found the Panasonic to be a much better TV. My mate bought a ridiculously expensive Pioneer Tv at the same time and he was gutted as thought my Panasonics Picture was better than his for about half the cost.

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by KK » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:43 pm

I have; Panasonic and Sony are my 2 favoured brands so I'm keeping an eye on them both. Design wise I never think Panasonic looks as good as Samsung, LG or Sony though.

I'm always impressed with Samsung stuff in-store but my track record with them is diabolical (I've just had to return yet another microwave to John Lewis - NOBODY buy the MC28H5125AK!).

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by Lagamorph » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:10 pm

You'd think Samsung Microwaves would be great with that companies reputation for heating things up.

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by KK » Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:29 pm

The Sony XD93 has won T3's TV of the Year Award:

twitter.com/t3dotcom/status/781247544882061312


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by more heat than light » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:37 am

Love the design on the XD93, it is one lovely looking set. Still think the Panny DX902 has a better picture though.

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by KK » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:24 pm

4K TV to avoid, the LG 55 inch UH770V:

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RRP: £950

The 55UH770V scores high on raw shelf appeal. Its crisp metallic form and promise of both 4K and HDR picture thrills make its £950 price look pretty tempting. Its charm is ultimately severely dented, though, by a sub-par picture performance, especially with HDR. 3/5

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/lg-55uh770v

HDTV Test wrote:LG has improved a number of things on the UH770V compared with previous LED LCD offerings from the company. The TV’s native black level was the deepest yet we’ve measured from an IPS LCD panel, though still not a patch on most VA LCDs, let alone self-emissive displays like plasma and OLED televisions. The 55UH770 could be also calibrated to highly accurate levels; backlight management was better than previous iterations (at least in SDR); and input lag had been cut down to allow for more responsive gaming.

But at the end of the day, the LG 55UH770V’s Achilles’ Heel was always going to be the limited contrast performance of IPS screen technology, especially as the industry marches relentlessly towards HDR. The display’s shallower black level meant that its backlight engine had to work much harder to produce convincing blacks and HDR brightness at the same time, resulting in seriously distracting vertical blooming and luminance fluctuations. Throw in frame-skipping problem during 4K Blu-ray playback, and we think there are better alternatives on the market albeit at slightly higher prices, such as the Panasonic DX750, or better yet, the Samsung KS7000 (review pending). Of course, if budget isn’t an issue, by all means go for one of LG’s outstanding OLEDs.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/55uh770v ... 064369.htm

I'm glad they're starting to review some of these cheaper 4K sets as they always review the top end but avoid the more entry stuff. And I don't trust What HiFi magazine whatsoever.

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by Peter Crisp » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:30 pm

I think it's sensible to wait until at least next year as the TV manufacturers will then have had a chance to make new sets with the XboxOneS and PS4 Pro as a decent baseline for HDR 4K. Only once we have reviews by the usual suspects and they can test the new sets will it be wise to spend what is still a fair chunk of change on sets with HDR 4K.

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by KK » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:41 pm

I'm beginning to think the same thing, though some of the deals lately from John Lewis have had me hovering over the buy button.

Hopefully the £ doesn't crash any further so come next year everything is MUCH more expensive.

We'll know what many of the manufacturers are doing at CES starting from the 5th January. The TVs will then launch around March/April and should be at a good price come around August/September. That wait though. :dread:

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by KK » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:48 pm

Had an interesting conversation with a Sony rep in Curry's this weekend. Take this for what it's worth, but he said Sony are dropping YouView in 2017 and swapping to Freeview. He also said this Thanksgiving/Christmas would be the best time to purchase a 4K TV because prices are going to go through the roof in 2017 (BREXIT!).

The SkyQ fix is apparently scheduled in for early November too, along with the next Android software. I'm hoping Sony have all this done & dusted before Black Friday otherwise buying an XD93 is a massive risk, 'TV of the year' or otherwise.

Oh, and there's a firmware update on the way that's dropping the response time for gaming (and through HDR). I don't know by how much though.

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by KK » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:24 pm

The BBC is likely to launch its first Ultra HD, HDR compatible content over the internet via the BBC iPlayer service, according to an interview at the MIPCOM (Marché International des Programmes de Communication) trade show held in Cannes, France.

Speaking with Advanced Television, the BBC’s Mike Gunton (Creative Director/BBC Natural History Unit) and Andy King (outgoing Head of Technology/Television Productions), stated that the BBC was now working hard to get its Ultra HD productions out to viewers.

King also said that high-profile shows, including the upcoming Planet Earth II series, were increasingly being given High Dynamic Range (HDR) treatment, helped along by the various standards bodies having agreed their specification for HDR.

King said: “What we now need to work on is how we are going to get [these shows] to the viewer. Obviously, as an organisation we are committed to delivery on every platform. But Digital Terrestrial is going to be very difficult. However, we are very much strategically taking an ‘Internet first’ approach. So we see our first offerings with UHD/HDR, and HDR is very important, to be on the iPlayer platform. [We also need] to take a look at sound. We have moved to 5.1 but I’d really like to see some serious developments in Object Based Audio. As an industry we need not to forget the sound stuff!”

I shall avoid watching PE2 in the meantime.

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by Hound » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:08 pm

I think I'm torn between the SAMSUNG UE49KS7000 and Pana​sonic Vier​a 50DX​750B.

I have a Viera now and it's been great, so I know I like the brand, but I think HDR might be better on the Samsung?

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by KK » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:59 pm

The Panasonic also isn't UHD Alliance certified. If you can get it with a warranty the Samsung is undoubtedly the better choice.

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by Hound » Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:28 pm

KK wrote:The Panasonic also isn't UHD Alliance certified. If you can get it with a warranty the Samsung is undoubtedly the better choice.


I think you get 5 years with John Lewis :toot:

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by Saint of Killers » Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:05 am

Is HDR representative of true colour, or is it just a massively more expensive version of whacking up colour, contrast and brightness? (Which gives a very vibrant yet garish image.)

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by That's not a growth » Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:26 am

Both really. The human eye can see much more contrast than current TVs can show (even these HDR ones), but it depends on how it's used by the content creator. Over the top doesn't have to be bad, like how I'd imagine a sci-fi Tokyo at night in the rain, but if you google "shitty HDR" you'll see how something can be misused, as a rough example.

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by Ironhide » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:59 pm

I genuinely don't give a gooseberry fool about massive 4K or HDR TVs, my 39" 1080p Panasonic is perfectly fine in both size and performance.

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by jawafour » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:05 pm

Ironhide wrote:I genuinely don't give a gooseberry fool about massive 4K or HDR TVs, my 39" 1080p Panasonic is perfectly fine in both size and performance.

Yep, Ironhide... I'm rocking a completely un-massive 26" 720p screen in my front room (TV, Wii and Wii U) and a nice 24" 1080p screen in my game room (PS4 and older stuff). Both are fine :toot: .

Once I get a steady income I hope to get a bigger screen in the front room... but I want to hang on until I can get a 4K HDR(10) screen for a decent ( I dunno... £500?) price so that's probably years away. You guys will probably be using 8K screens by then :-).

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by NickSCFC » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:20 pm

Righty, I'm in the market for a new TV, not looking to break the bank until OLEDs become affordable, just something like 40" Samsung LCD for now.

Question, when are the best deals usually? Black Friday or Boxing Day?

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by Ironhide » Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:28 pm

Don't buy a TV on Black Friday, most places will be either offering small gooseberry fool tier TVs for £100 or cheaper end models from Sony, LG and Samsung with minor discounts.

Boxing day is slightly better but you're better off researching TVs within your budget, deciding on a couple of those you'd be happy with and see if they appear in the sales.

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